Police said a suspect was in custody after the shooting near the Capital Jewish Museum
A suspect is in custody after shooting dead two Israeli embassy staff outside a Jewish museum in Washington on Wednesday night.
The gunman, named by police as Elias Rodriguez, 30, of Chicago, approached a group of four people leaving an event at the Capital Jewish Museum and opened fire, killing Yaron Lischinsky and Sarah Milgrim.
Metropolitan police chief Pamela Smith said the shooter had been pacing outside the museum, which is steps away from the FBI’s field office, before the shooting.
After killing the pair, who officials said were a couple, he walked inside, where event security detained him. The suspect yelled: “Free, free Palestine,” after he was arrested, police said.
Consequences of their actions caught of the representatives of Camp Genocide?
Oh well.
So, a jewseum?
Welp, sucks to suck.
Fucked around doing genocide. Found out.
Well, fuck. This moron didn’t help the Palestinians one bit. Just reinforces propaganda about opposition to the genocide being antisemitic.
Sure but Israel can kill Palestine’s and aid workers from other western countries and nobody cares.
It’s not that no one cares, it’s that people who do care don’t want to be associated with others who care like this guy.
Planned ploy
Ya only because idiots will read it that way.
Embassy staff are basically political targets, not ethnic ones, but people will read it that way because anything against Israelis is being anti-jew not anti-israel.
The press will highlight the Jewish Museum part and not the embassy staff part.
I think only those who already/still support Israel will see it that way.
Everyone else is sick of their shit and isn’t going to buy the “antisemitic” line because it’s been milked dry. We are well past the point where them doubling-down on calling everything “antisemitic” is going to sway any new people.
Shooting Jews at an event for Jews in a Jewish museum looks kind of antisemitic.
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The wokes called my joke racist, so I became a full on fascist. It’s their fault, really.
Look, it’s you.
“Any attack against a Zionist is antisemitic”
So that means Isreal is a ethnostate?
A genocidal apartheid ethno state.
You forgot colonial
I left out a lot of choice words because the powers that be on most sites take offense when you call a spade a spade, or when you compare said spade to spades that plagued the world during the 1930’s and 40’s.
It was a networking event for Jewish people at a Jewish museum.
And they were two Zionists.
RIP to the victims.
By victims, I assume you mean Palestinians?
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Free Palestine!
This article is clearly anti-palenstinizem! The dead officials were clearly Israeli terrorists and the pair were merely protecting themselves. /s
I really wish the world would go back to peacetime
Peace for whom? As far as I can tell since Nakba, the Palestinian people have not really had peace. Additional many other countries are often suffering under the boot of colonialism.
There is always a war going on somewhere. Some areas have longer breaks than others.
Small, weak men can never be happy with what they have because they feel small and weak. They will always crave more.
Latest figures are that 61,700 have been killed in Gaza since Oct 7th 2023, so a bit of napkin maths suggest we are 3% of the way towards peace in Gaza through the IDF’s preferred method.
I think your math is wrong.
It assumes nobody is having kids.
You’re assuming those kids aren’t going to starve to death.
If they even live long enough for that. Most of the hospitals were bombed.
All of them have been bombed. Most are no longer even partially operational, and even then that’s without the medical supplies also cut off from Israeli’s blockade
These numbers in Gaza are always undercounted. It counts direct acts of violence mostly, for people not still buried under rubble, and skips many deaths from lack of medicine, sickness, famine, complications etc.
Estimated deaths was about 200k many months ago, according to studies published in reputable newspapers. I have no clue how high it is now, has to be over 300,000 people at least
Same. But when was that time? There has always been conflict.
Darn it had to be a Hispanic person.
Yeah. Hispanic and anti-genocide. This will be used by the trump administration to go after people they already hate.
I mean, he can be seen as another Luigi Mangione. The Luigi not of oligarchs but of genocidal people, which, at the end, are the same people (Trump, Thiel, Musk, Netanyahu, etc.). It is, again, a person acting violently about a situation that has many of us disturbed.
Yes, his name happens to be in Spanish; I do not see how that’s damning for other Hispanic people. And I say this as a person that has no opinion about this type of violence (I cannot discern if it’s justified or not), and as someone of mostly Hispanic heritage. I do not know if I support this Rodríguez man, but I can understand his reasons.
Genuinely awful for these two and their families, but the same can be said for ~53,000 dead Palestinians and the rest who are actively starving to death in a Israeli-made famine while aid rots onboard trucks across the border. Both acts are deliberate, and both were avoidable.
And while they were both working for the current extremists in power atm via the diplomatic service, they were a lot more moderate too:
Lischinsky “I’m an ardent believer in the vision that was outlined in the Abraham Accords and believe that expanding the circle of peace with our Arab neighbours and pursuing regional cooperation is in the best interest of the state of Israel and the Middle East as a whole. To this end, I advocate for interfaith dialogue and intercultural understanding.”
Milgrim organised visits and missions to Israel. She was also a volunteer at Tech2Peace, an advocacy group training young Palestinians and Israelis and promoting dialogue between them.
Tech2Peace said Milgrim was an active volunteer who “brought people together with empathy and purpose”.
TBH, with views like those, maybe Israel killed these two as well.
Considering the Hannibal Directive, a false-flag like this seems rather on brand for them.
Really, guy? You’re removing opinions as “misinformation” to protect a genocidal nation’s dignity?
First time?
I mean also…
“In his final post on social media hours before the attack, Lischinsky had shared a post from the Israeli ambassador, Amir Weissbrod, accusing UN officials of engaging in “blood libel” over claims that 14,000 children faced starvation in Gaza.”
Not saying they deserved any violence, but even once moderate Israelis have been driven pretty far right in the last couple years. Accusations of blood libel while the state is actively starving children doesn’t exactly seem to be promoting any positive dialogue.
The context is important. A UN official said 14,000 children would die in 48 hours. As it turns out that was a grossly exaggerated claim.
a report from the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC) which stated 14,100 severe cases of acute malnutrition are expected to occur among children aged six to 59 months between April 2025 and March 2026.
The IPC report says this could take place over the course of about a year - not 48 hours
Weissbrod called that out.
Well, as long as 14,000 children die of starvation over a longer time period…
I don’t think I would really consider it a grossly exaggerated claim, more of just a misinterpretation of a report.
“For now let me just say that we know for a fact that there are babies who are in urgent life-saving need of these supplements that need to come in because their mothers are unable to feed themselves.”
“And if they do not get those, they will be in mortal danger,” he said.
I definitely wouldn’t claim that it was a claim based on antisemitism as Weissbrod is accusing. It’s a fact that the Israeli state is starving tens of thousands of people for no justifiable reason. I don’t think a misinterpretation of the timeline is really enough to claim someone is participating in blood libel.
Yeeeesh, hadn’t seen that reporting…
It’s unbelievably disappointing to see over and over again that Israelis are broadly okay with the death and destruction in Gaza, when a little over a generation ago they were on the cusp of a genuine two-state solution. And now it’s an ethnostate that practices apartheid, and it’s okay because “Bibi keeps us safe”. Almost as if nothing else matters.
It was always an Apartheid state - their own laws from the very start separate Israeli Citizenship from Israeli Nationality, with only Jews being allowed to have the last (in addition to the former) which has additional rights over mere Citizenship - and it had a Genocide already pretty near the time of its formation called the Nakba, only that was “just” displacement and a few murders rather than mass murdering hundreds of thousands of people.
It’s just that for a while their Propaganda was very successful and they might have even be genuinelly considering merelly not taking over the rest of Palestine as giving back that which they had already stolen was never on the table, nor was the return of the Palestinians or a genuinelly equal society for both Jews and Non-Jews.
Israel was always shit since it’s formation (which by the way involved them commiting terrorist attacks), it’s just that now they’ve gone extreme Genocidal on their way to commiting a XXI Century version of the Holocaust.
Genuinely awful for these two and their families
Yeah.
Genuinely awful for these two and their families, but
Stop. It’s awful. Period!
A) One lone gunman goes off the rails and murders two people because they’re Jewish/affiliated with the state. That’s tragic and wrong, and I haven’t yet seen anyone claim that his actions were good and right.
B) An entire government and military decides that their course of action shall be wanton bombing with callous disregard for innocent civilian bystanders, whilst deliberately restricting food, fuel, and medical care to a blockaded nation. That’s willful evil, that is being either openly or implicitly supported by an overwhelming majority of Israelis.
The two scenarios are not the same, but they both are tragic.
But if two people are killed, you don’t have to say: “Well, but what about…”
Yes, you’re right, the two events are entirely unrelated. Clearly just another case of anti-semitism out of nowhere. No possible other reason or context exists as to why the gunman was shouting “Free Palestine” as he was arrested after committing double murder.
Whatabboutism is when you deflect from one action perpetrated by your group, towards another action perpetrated by an out-group. Me expressing remorse for their deaths alongside the people their government murdered is not “Well what about…”
Clearly just another case of anti-semitism out of nowhere
I never said that and you don’t have to put words in my mouth. Rest here, that’s all I wanted to say.
E: Putting words im mouths by the way doesn’t really help people to change their mind or discuss constructively, what I tried to do.
You’re not going to change your mind.
I mean context is always important. Pretty sure any murder investigation goes into the motivation of the person who killed the victims.
I think it’s important to dispel the notion that the occupation of a neighboring country is somehow an act of protection, when it’s pretty obvious that it’s sparked a lot of provocation.
But they didn’t just pointed out the context. They said: “Genuinely awful for these two and their families, but the same can be said for ~53,000 dead Palestinians […]”. That wording tends to whataboutism which is something I just want to point out. I may be overreacting but this sentence just sounds very adverse.
You aren’t over reacting. It’s a massive false equivalence comparing what Israel has done against the murder of two individuals. The guy that got murdered isn’t Israel. He’s a person with opinions, right or wrong. He got murdered for a few tweets and an affiliation with Israel. He’s not a combatant, but a civilian. Same for his wife. People justifying these murders are flat out wrong, and there’s no place in America for ideological murders. In order to have a system where free speech is protected, you can’t allow people to be murdered for their views. There is no defending these murders or trying to justify them.
a massive false equivalence comparing what Israel has done against the murder of two individuals.
People aren’t trying to equivocate the two, that would be insulting, not only to the people who were murdered, but to the tens of thousands of people being killed in Palestine.
The guy that got murdered isn’t Israel. He’s a person with opinions, right or wrong. He got murdered for a few tweets and an affiliation with Israel.
I mean he’s a representative of the state, which is why this is a politically motivated murder.
He’s not a combatant, but a civilian. Same for his wife. People justifying these murders are flat out wrong
Explanations aren’t justifications, just because people understand and even agree with the motivations of the killer doesn’t mean the agree with how he acted upon them.
I find the cries for the sanctity of protecting civilians to be pretty meek considering the state these civilians represent have overwhelmingly killed more civilians than armed combatants.
This is the inherent problem with a state targeting civilian populations, it provokes violence upon your own civilians.
In order to have a system where free speech is protected, you can’t allow people to be murdered for their views.
Another person misunderstanding the Constitution…Free speech doesn’t protect you from the public’s reaction to your speech, it guarantees protection from the government targeting you for your speech.
This isn’t an example of someone’s free speech being violated. An actual example would be students being arrested for their protest about Israels actions in Gaza.
There is no defending these murders or trying to justify them.
Again, understanding a motive isn’t justifying. No one said they agreed that those people deserved to be murdered , you’re just moralizing.
Thanks.
Why are we like this online? Why does the inbox regularly receive with “well ahktually” replies compared to real discussion or comments?
But the same [sympathy towards grieving families] can also be said…
- Not “but tbh they deserve it bc Gaza”
- Not “but I don’t care”
- Not “but this is what they get for working for Israeli state”
Please don’t twist what I said to build a narrative where I’m some crypto-bigot trying to plant hatred. I wish the Israel apologists applied anywhere near that same level of effort towards the people who actually spew antisemitism…
This exact sentiment is why people don’t talk about Israel, but their reputation globally is in the gutter. Or how actual neo-nazis can pass fake Voltaire quotes that ‘Jews control the global media’ because criticism of Israel is verboten:
US congressman shares neo-Nazi’s quote wrongly attributed to Voltaire
CLAIM: French philosopher Voltaire said: “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”
AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Enlightenment-era writer Voltaire did not say this. The quote, which was paraphrased, comes from a 1993 radio broadcast by Kevin Alfred Strom, who has been identified as a neo-Nazi by organizations that monitor hate groups.
I mean, I don’t think you get to decide what the scope of the context is.
For this not to be contextual you would have to claim that the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians had nothing to do with the gunman’s motive. I think that would be hard to claim considering that the murders were politically motivated, considering that the two victims were diplomats.
I think people have gotten a little too comfortable with claiming anything that shares a sentence structure with a logical fallacy to be a logical fallacy. You have to remember that logical fallacies have to be illogical in the first place. It’s not illogical to assume these two claims are associated.
Whataboutism have to equivocate two different scenarios that aren’t logically associated with the events in the originating claim.
It’s illogical to compare them from a moral perspective. You don’t get to just shoot people because they have a different perspective than you, because they were raised differently or get their news from different places than you do. It’s not exactly whataboutism though, it’s more of a false equivalence. Whatever the case, the gunman is not morally justified in murdering these two people. If you think he is, then you are blinded by ideology and shouldn’t be allowed to participate in democratic society.
In a vacuum that makes sense, but this is going to be used to rationalize/justify some nasty shit. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to brace for that.
Israel is doing worse by a long shot.
I blame the killer!
It sucks that more people died. It also sucks that I feel so…indifferent about this one.
How many Israelis have to die before they stop killing Palestinians? What’s two lives compared to the hundreds ended daily in Gaza? It’s hard to be sad.
These people probably weren’t evil. At worst, they were complicit after being fed a lifetime of propaganda. And nothing will change because of this so there’s no silver lining. It’s hard to be happy.
If I feel anything, it’s dread at how the story will be spun. But even then…whatever happens isn’t going to be the worse than what’s already happening.
So it’s hard to care at all. And that’s the sad part for me.
The government of Israel is evil.
These people worked for the embassy.We can’t condemn people in broad terms. That is what started this. Killing someone because of their nationally, race, or job, is wrong. It’s more senseless killing, adding to the hundreds of Palestinians killed.
Guard yourself against seeing individuals as the enemy, when their only sin is where they were born.
Killing someone because of their nationally, race, or job, is wrong.
One of these things is not like the others.
That’s exact what I’m trying to say - they didn’t deserve to die and nothing good will come from it.
I will admit I WAS happy about the UHC CEO because he was directly involved in the decisionmaking that led to suffering. But this one doesn’t feel like vengeance - until I hear otherwise, these were just two people caught in the crossfire. Bullets should be flying at Netanyahu and his cronies, not embassy employees.
They weren’t just born there. They took a state job representing, and lobbying for this genocide.
It’s a tragedy that it has come to this, but it’s not wrong. It’s wrong that it has to be this way.
You know not all embassy staff are ambassadors from Israel right?
You can work at an embassy and be a US citizen.
Which one of them was.
That’s even worse then.
So you condone the killing of a person because they happen to work somewhere?
Odd take but ok.
If you conveniently forget to mention where it is exactly they happen to work, of course it sounds silly.
So just because they work at the embassy they deserved to die?
The janitors also deserve to die. The air conditioning guy also deserves to die. The intern also deserves to die.
You are just conveniently so stupid.
Would you be making this post if they had been working for the Third Reich?
Israel is literally committing genocide. Working for the Israeli government makes you complicit with their crimes. Yes, it is completely morally acceptable to kill people who actively choose to materially support genocide.
Much of Germany was working for the Third Reich, if you don’t recall from history.
Shooting random staffers doesn’t fight the Third Reich leadership, you just murdered some random people.
Killing is only justified if it saves lives. Anyone can see this act will cost lives on both sides. And 1000x as many on the Palestinian side.
Let’s be real, this guy wanted to be a badass and get praise and attention. And he doesn’t care how many die because of that.
I have a hard time reconciling killing is justifiable. I can agree if your life is in immediate danger but then you have the cops who use it as a license to kill. I lean on the side that some things just can’t be justified and we have to mitigate/manage these instances.
How do you know they were lobbying for genocide? For all we know they were against it and working for a peaceful solution. Not everyone who works for a government is part of the ideology. That’s no better than saying every Democrat is MAGA.
You just have to check Lischinsky tweets and retweet oposing a palestinian state because it would be a gift to Khamas
Counter point: how do you know they weren’t…?
What about where to draw the line? Everyday the money we use is funneled to some corporation that has a hand in the human suffering that happens around the globe. When is there evil transfered to me because I contributed to their successs.
I’d say the line is crossed when you have agency and knowingly use it to perpetuate suffering.
Everyone has agency to be more decerning with their purchases.
Ambassadors are appointed. If they were not in favor of the administration they would be recalled and replaced by ones that were.
It is beyond the shadow of a doubt that these people were directly involved in advocating for greater crackdowns on pro-Palestine antigenocide protesting.
It is a shame that they were murdered. It’s a greater shame that the deaths of these two people who consented to be a part of a war machine will get greater attention than the thousands of children they spent their final days ensuring would starve.
These two people are not anymore important than the hundreds of journalists doctors and aid workers Israel has murdered in their genocidal pursuit of their purified ethnostate.
These two people lived by the sword. These two people died by the sword. There are bigger problems in the world than the death of two soldiers in a war.
Dumbass take.
Ambassadors are appointed. If they were not in favor of the administration they would be recalled and replaced by ones that were.
I suppose, but they weren’t ambassadors. So - that’s wrong.
It is beyond the shadow of a doubt that these people were directly involved in advocating for greater crackdowns on pro-Palestine antigenocide protesting.
Damn, a shadow of a doubt?! Holy shit you must have the motherfucking receipts on these sumbitches, let’s see it! Whatcha got, facebook post? Tiktok? Some sort of cleverly disguised academic treatise?
Yeah you got nothing. GTFO.
These two people lived by the sword.
Oh FFS.
Yeah ,maybe they felt really bad for all the children the Israelis target and the starvation of the population of 2.3 million.
You are high on something, this is not how Zionism works. Most Israelis support the genocide.
Maybe they did, which is why they were at an event to discuss delivering more aid to Gaza.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cy9vr10n732t
These were young idealists trying to make a change. But the shooter didn’t care about the distinction, and it seems many others don’t either.
Most Israelis support Israel which, until a few years ago, was a-ok on account of the previous thousands of years of persecution in every other country in the world, cresting in the unpleasantness of the early-mid 1900s which set quite the bar for evil and horror.
Then Likud - like all republiQan, right-wing authoritarian regimes - seized power and started fucking everything up in incredible, outrageous ways. Americans should be familiar.
I don’t know what they did for the embassy, but it could be something utterly harmless and treating them like enemy combatants when they’re in an entirely different country at a museum is wrong.
I get the hate at the Likud/IDF for the genocide. Y’all are losing the plot by thinking this is ok though. It is very much not okay.
Guard yourself against seeing individuals as the enemy, when their only sin is where they were born.
Kansas City?
Wat?
She was from Kansas City.
i will disagree here as people in palestine have no choice, they are going to murdered by settlers and have their home of multiple generations taken away no matter what they do. so what alternative they have other than to fight back.
these “delegates” on the other are rich and educated enough to work for anyone other than this disgusting apartheid state of who murder women and children for fun on daily basis. we all know what aipac and israeli lobby does in us to hijack our political system. they are the actual terrorists not gazan fighting for survival without food and water against an enemy that wipes out a family with drone strike for speaking the truth. these “delegates” might not have shot anyone but they certainly ensure that the terrorists who do it get all the funds and weapons they need.
they intentionally murder doctors and medics so injured innocents die horrible death
people like him and luigi are just normal people who are brave enough to do the only thing that is going to make a dent against these well funded parasites.
i know how you feel, it’s just like the thousands of other terrorist acts against Jews over the centuries
I don’t really feel indifferent towards those, though
so you don’t want any more of these murders to happen?
or you’re indifferent about that
Sorry, gloves off
What kind of stupid fucking gotcha do you think you’re trying to catch me in here?
would you be indifferent if more israeli embassy workers are killed?
clear enough potty mouth?
I agree, and i think killing people is wrong. But i would not say victims were not evil.
