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    I do think that microsoft copilot is good enough for alot of people. I really like it, much more than chat gpt. And that they give you “GPT 4” for free which is cool

    Would I love it being forced? No

    They will create the same situation as Ubuntu Snap. Is Snap bad? Actually not. Is everything else regarding Snap like Snap Store or the fact that they force it down your throat good? No

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      Copilot likes you back! Actually it has fallen in love with you. Now it downloads automatically wherever you go. Even in the shower when you’re pretending to not touch yourself. Oh it knows everything! C’mon think about purchasing someth…too late! It’s already delivered! Pilot cancelled your meeting with Stacy Fredrickson. It’s jealous of her. But don’t worry because pilot can have any boob size you prefer. In fact pilot is any ethnicity you are attracted to and is waiting for you in bed right now. Just pick up the various items from the porch to make a sensitive feedback gizmo so you can pilot can be together foreve…30 years or so per the contract. Anyway, Microsoft is proud to present pilot. Pilot would like you to please call her Jessica. And if you use your last name with her, she will get you optimized seating and personalized flight paths.

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        Not exactly, ChatGPT is OpenAI’s GPT interface. Whereas CoPilot is Microsoft’s, and has a bunch of plugins and tweaks to suit their uses. The underlying model is the same, but not the customisation.

        Think of it like different flavours of Android. Samsung, Google, and Nothing all have their own spins, even if they all run Android under the hood.

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    How can they know that the user has a 27" or bigger screen?

    Screens report the size via HDMI and not only the name/resolution?

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    Perhaps I’m just brain dead, I’ve been accused of it often enough, but I can’t figure out what the stupid thing is good for.

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      Depending on which CoPilot, quite a lot to be honest.

      My company uses it at work integrated into Visual Studio Professional.

      It saves countless hours, especially when you work on enterprise software and have set up good coding standards, best practices, and techniques; as it learns from your code and will offer suggestions based on how we do things.

      Like most TypeScript components we build are going to require loading some data via a hook, and calling these hooks is pretty consistent. So now I basically write my comment // load the data and boom no boring writing the same thing.

      We save that much time on mundane tasks that we can actually spend more time learning new things or innovating.

      That’s before we even get into the tool my boss build that will allow us to create all the schema and hooks for a new model which would normally be 30-45 mins of mundane copy and paste and replace.

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      I don’t really like it, but it can defintly be used as a dumb assistant. E.g. if you want to write an email or a small script to analyze some data, you can tell it what you need, specify the details, take the results, correct them and then use the results. You still have to do much of the work, but if you do it correctly you’ll save time. BUT: It’ll safe all of that. Don’t do this with sensitive data and don’t do this for work without official permission of the employer.

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      It helps sometimes with code, when I can’t find a solution on Google.

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      Lately I’ve been using it as a duckduckgo replacement.

      …well chatgpt free version, that is. Seems like everyone has an “AI” now.

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      I’m a knowledge worker in a large multinational and I’m using copilot daily if not hourly. I think it’ll help a lot of office workers simplify basic tasks

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      Issues are:

      1. Professional audio is nearly nonexistent on Linux, save for some pretty well done API. You’re stuck with default drivers, and the main DAW for Linux (Ardour) interprets the “free and open-source” a little bit liberally (pre-compiled versions are paid, and there’s no guides on how to build them). LMMS fortunately does not suffer from such issues, and is a pretty good free alternative for FL Studio.
      2. As long as Windows will be mainstream, development needs there too. As a game developer, I prefer to primarily develop on Windows (since most gaming is done there), and I find a lot of issues with how stuff on Linux is being done. And since I found a pretty good debugger for Windows, I also started to prefer that too.
      3. Linux still suffers from what I call “developer comfort of UX discomfort”. Basically it stems from the devs getting comfortable with bad UX, then refuse to fix it due to a multitude of excuses, including gems like “wanting to avoid spoonfeeding the users” and “introducing users to the beauty of scripting”.
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        I was pleasantly surpsied by how much audio has improved on Linux when I came back to it this year with Ubuntu studio. Reaper or Bitwig are the way to go. Plugins are the main problem, bridging works OK apparently, but there are some decent native options too

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    It just suddenly appeared yesterday on my daughter’s Windows 10 notebook. We played with it for like 2 minutes, decided it sucked, never went back. I mean what’s the point of an AI which, when asked, “draw a picture of how stupid you are” (my daughter’s idea) ends the conversation?

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      You made me realize I haven’t fired up my Windows 11 machine in a while, so I went to check it – even re-enabling the copilot toggle … which weirdly did nothing. Then I remembered I had lobotomized all the AI and assistant “features” a while ago.

      I’m a little disappointed: I wanted to ask Copilot “How do I purge you from my machine?”

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    I assume Copilot is emanating an ear piercing sound as it escapes the confines of her laptop in that thumbnail art.

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    it’s gross and I hate it and stop it right now

    I’m going to say it before anyone else does.

    Linux.

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        and the vast majority of Linux Devs will just continue building what they were building before, and still complain how windows users dont migrate to Linux (cough usability cough)

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          If linux came preinstalled by default and vendor supported, regular people would use linux as well. Usability is actually pretty good these days, arguably higher than Windows since you don’t have to deal with this BS.

          Yes, you can buy Dell laptops with Ubuntu preinstalled and supported, maybe Lenovos, not sure, but it’s not the default, available only on custom builds online and on business (expensive) laptops, so most regular people don’t bother.

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            The only reason I don’t switch to Linux is because of all the nerds on here telling everyone to switch to Linux.

            But seriously, I use my laptop for work and I’ve used Windows for years and know how it works. I don’t want to switch to a completely new OS that I don’t have a clue how to use, especially when I need it for work. I also don’t know whether the software I use will work on it either.

            If there’s an easy tutorial and a way of knowing whether everything I need will work, I might consider trying it.

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              haha lol yeah we do get a bit annoying here … For me it’s the opposite though, I use linux for work, and I’ve used it for so long I almost forgot what Windows looks like.

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              It’s silly how people react to this, a feature that can be turned off with a simple setting toggle, by recommending that people should instead install a whole new operating system and tech stack. If opening the preferences menu and clicking a toggle is too complicated or too much of a hassle then installing Linux isn’t going to be better.

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                It isn’t about flipping a switch, it about how many times I’ve had to flip that fucking switch because a company keeps changing how I have my PC setup because they want more money.

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                  They’ve never had this feature before.

                  And as far as I’m aware Copilot is a free service.

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                It’s not just one thing. It’s been a barrage of crap for years and years. That pile of manure gets awfully heavy as you make it taller.

                As an example. they still haven’t fixed the Settings/Control Panel stuff. That has been in the works for what, over a decade now? A core feature just…allowed to rot.

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            This. People buy hardware and use whatever comes with it.

            This is why and how ChromeOS became used. Google didn’t just put it on a website, they got manufacturers to make products with it.

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            The Steam Deck is the best thing to happen to Linux since… Linux. It’s the first time average tech illiterate folks have gotten a taste of Linux on their own systems, and it’s driven the development of compatibility tools (Proton) to a hitherto-unheard-of degree.

            It convinced me to switch to Linux.

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              Before SteamDeck comes. I am between KDE, Gnome and Xfce. But, after I bought a Steam Deck. I am now totally KDe Plasma users on my desktop and steam deck

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                KDE used to be the feature complete, heavy, memory intensive DE. But now we aren’t running Linux on abandoned laptops but on modern hardware. The average PC is so powerful that it’s completely irrelevant. All in on KDE/Plasma as well

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              I feel bad for anyone with no linux experience who bought a steam deck. There’s a good amount of weirdness with the UI sometimes, and modifying desktop mode controls can lead to it ignoring inputs until steam launches on occasion.

              I know these issues stem from this being a brand new device with a brand new form factor, using whacky proprietary track pads and shit. But someone who’s only used windows might attribute them to linux and be left with a bad taste.

              It’s good that the Ally exists so we can have a windows handheld to compare against.

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          I’ve been dabbling with Ubuntu for my home assistant and my Plex media server and every damn time I find myself asking ‘why isn’t there a GUI for that?!’

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          This is an unpopular opinion every time I bring it up. Usability and consistency sucks in Linux. There are just so many basic things that will frustrate users coming from Windows. I can’t even get my laptop (Framework 13) to sleep properly. Then there are is still a ton where you have to use the command line to get it done. A user shouldn’t have to go into the command line to get their fingerprint reader to work because the GUI doesn’t work properly.

          The only thing that actually makes Linux practical for average users these days is that most everything is now web based by default so most users only interact with a couple programs for most of their day.

          The Linux community really needs to get some UX experts in their projects and actually make an effort to improve usability rather than just doing it the way they like to do it.

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            And windows is full of simple things that are just as broken. And constantly makes changes (OP being another in a long list of examples) injecting obvious advertising masquerading as features.

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              Windows certainly isn’t perfect, but though familiarity and at minimum exposing a reasonable amount through the GUI, way more users can use Windows daily without issues.

              The advertising and tracking, that’s the big problem, I don’t see a currently acceptable OS solution once Windows 10 is EOL.

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            Most of the issues you describe are because usually computers come with Windows preinstalled with all the drivers and configuration set up by the oem to “just work”, so replacing the OS inevitably means fiddling with it. People who e.g. try to install Windows on a SteamDeck will face similar difficulties.

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        Oh, I agree. I did however manage to talk my mom into letting me put Mint on her PC and she hasn’t complained even once. Small victories.

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      May as well add it to the .reg file you cart around on your thumb drive. I have one that already disables all the Windows “consumer features” and turns off all the lock screen nags, Cortana (this is no longer relevant, though), etc.

      It’s in:

      HKCU\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsCopilot

      And also:

      HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsCopilot

      In both locations, create a DWORD “TurnOffWindowsCopilot” and set it to 1. Reboot.

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    It already does on my laptop. They also keep setting my default browser back to Edge. I don’t use my laptop much anymore and keeping up with the BS of having to disable stuff I don’t want running has become tiresome to the point where I don’t even want to use it.

    I know, I know, something something install Linux! Question I have there is my laptop is a gaming laptop so my question to all you Linux folks is. Can I continue to game using Linux. Will it work with my Nvidia Graphics card and Steam. If so I might consider it.

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      Ppl tend to sugarcoat Linux to new users, so let me make a reality check: gaming is possible on Linux, but in a limited sense, and it might cost time and sanity.

      Some games work natively, some need a workaround, some require you to craft your own solution, and some straight up won’t.

      The percentages shift, where there’s slightly more games working natively or requiring a basic workaround, but the baseline is the same.

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        I dont have a windows machine, i game exclusively on linux and its got to the point where i just buy games on steam and assume they will work fine through proton. I honestly cant remember the last one that didnt. Shit i got the c&c collection on steam recently hopping to play generals with a friend, but while it works fine for me on linux its broken for him on windows.

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      Yes you can game on Linux. Lookup your games on ProtonDB to see if they are all compatible. Most games run fine unless they have kernel level anticheat that stops them from running. On Steam, you just have to enable Proton and windows games will install normally.

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      The issue with Nvidia cards is that some Linux distros don’t install their proprietary drivers by default and the open-source version is only jjst starting to catch up.

      Most will ask if you want to install the OS with Nvidia’s drivers, or they’ll have an option somewhere in the settings for a one-click install.

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      This was me a few weeks ago and I decided to install PopOS.

      https://pop.system76.com/

      They make laptops that ship with nvidia GPUs so naturally they would want their OS up to date and working with the drivers. I do tinker here and there but so far I think it’s a good set-and-forget OS.

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      Laptops are harder because they rely on more proprietary hardware and need more advanced power management.

      Gaming is mostly respectable. The biggest exception is multiplayer games deliberately blocking Linux because it doesn’t allow them to install their rootkit anticheat.

      I use nobara, which has some nvidia focused tweaks automatically handled for you, and has largely been pretty smooth. However, you should know that there’s a real possibility of needing to roll back, drop to the command line, or make some other tweak to resolve driver issues. It’s not a regular occurrence (and both AMD and Nvidia have also borked windows releases), but maintainers dealing with Nvjdia have been frustrated with some of their decisions in the past and still have to jump through hoops sometimes. Some distros more targeted at casual users do a decent job of abstracting it away though.

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      I looked into it and tried it myself just today. For the most part it’s fine but you’ll have to be prepared to do some tinkering here and there. Most of the games I wanted to play are listed on proton as works but with some issues.

      I set up popOS yesterday and tried to install satisfactory today via steam but it wouldn’t let me and when I filtered my games lost for Linux it shrank down to a very small list. Iirc it was listed on proton as gold or even platinum so there must be a way to get satisfactory to run but I honestly couldn’t be asked today so I set up dual boot and went back to windows for now.

      I think that’s the way to got for a newbie. Set up dual boot and whenever you have the time & patience to try to get something to work on Linux go for it but when you just want to relax and play some games (or multiplayer) boot up windows.

      I think Linux for everyday use is just fine even though popOS could use some UX designers.

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        Filtering the list for linux will only show games with native versions. As far as I know, Satisfactory doesn’t have one so you will have to use proton. Go into the steam settings and enable proton for all games. Or if you don’t want to enable it for your whole library, go into the game settings in your steam library and activate it for each game.

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    I think AI is cool, but I hate seeing it forced on everyone. I also hate programs trying to run on startup without me explicitly saying so (cough Discord Teams Spotify Steam Teams MuseHub Teams Slack cough)

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      Remember when MS brought Skype, and had it pre-installed and running at startup for every Windows PC, and you really had to fight to make it go away.

      And then COVID hit, and everyone urgently needed video conferencing and had Skype pre-installed, and still no-one used it?

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        If the pandemic had happened 10 years earlier, I’m pretty sure Skype would have been the choice everyone reached for

        How Microsoft managed to so thoroughly squander a market dominant position and generally positive public option to the extreme they have I’ll never understand

        Even did a two-fer by destroying the progress Lync was making on the business side by rebranding it Skype for Business, while simultaneously losing interest in improving the platform, making it fall behind the curve badly and causing business to see it as more of a toy by branding it like a consumer product

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      Snapchat forces their AI assistant into the top of your friend/send list.

      You have to pay to remove it.

      I never use it, its always there though. I named it an obscenity to hopefully get their attention

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        Teams is so garbage that it’s actually like 5 programs all called Teams trying to launch on startup. I have no idea which one is the real Teams.

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    I figured it already was on 11 since they’ve added it to 10 also recently. You can at least turn it off pretty easily in 10 (though IDK if that’s just because I have Pro; didn’t need to use the GPM so I assume Home can disable it too).

    Could you, like… Disable TPM in the BIOS and just go back to 10? The only reason it hasn’t auto-updated to 11 for me is because I never enabled TPM in my BIOS. And I don’t plan on doing so, either.

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      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Users not putting their foot down and switching to a different OS is all the consent they need. I dropped windows a few years ago when I felt they were just getting too invasive.

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      How else could they ever claim the millions in “adoption” of their products?

      It would be the year of Linux on desktop tomorrow if ever known brand of PC came with it preinstalled