Denuvo strikes again!
Just boykott games using this kind of shit.
Denuvo has a set limit on the amount of activations it allows per-game. This is five systems it detects within 24 hours.
That would certainly make me request a refund and just pirate the game.
Heads up, Steam has stopped refunding even broken games if it passes the two hour mark (even if it’s from sitting there on your system process locked).
Illegal where I live, probably why they give me warnings about that but always end up approving the refund
What’s the law there?
Any online purchase can be refunded within 7 days, no matter the reason. I don’t even need a reason other than “didn’t like it” or “actually I’d rather use the money to buy some chocolate”
There are no groups currently cracking Denuvo.
Is anything worth cracking? GTA 6 will be. But what has come out recently is worth the effort?
Yea I would think anyone who has a workaround is keeping it quiet, otherwise it’ll get fixed before then. Then it would be harder to break it for gta.
Is it because companies tend to strip denuvo from the games after some months?
I think it is mostly due to it being difficult to hack and those with the skill are well employed and don’t want to risk legal action or spend the time to crack games.
Yeah, didn’t Denuvo themselves hire a few of the former crackers?
The rumour going around, back then, was that Denuvo went under the table and paid crackers who had the ability to break their DRM to like – Stop doing that. And that this was the reason EMPRESS (actually insane woman) was the only person left who could crack it.
Of course, there is no way to prove that.
There are several individuals though. Fitgirl and Empress come to mind.
I think Empress is too busy ranting about trans people to crack games anymore
Yeah I think Empress got caught \ found by police? Or maybe that was just them being a little internet shit whining about “betrayals” 🤷
And men in general.
Fitgirl
That’s a repacker, not a cracker.
Cracker? I barely know her?
ahh heard
Doesn’t fitgirl just repack stuff (compressing the game for smaller download sizes) rather than doing the actual cracking?
Oh I get it, fitgirl will Make It FIT! Huh.
Empress has not cracked anything for a long time and Fitgirl has never cracked anything
In that case, request a refund and just forget about the game. It’s that little bit worse for the publisher who chose Denuvo.
Doubt it.
Now that it’s much harder to crack they’ll sell more. So many thiefs out there with plenty of money to burn who choose not to because they can get away with it.
Are the thieves with plenty of money to burn in the room with you, right now? Can you point them out? Where did they hurt you? Was it actually EA or Ubisoft but you’re scared to let us know? Was it Paradox’s DLC scheme, or Total War? Are they the ones who really hurt you? It’s ok. You’re in a safe space. The AI generated loot skins can’t hurt you, here.
Should every game be forced to support your chosen platform? I don’t see Mac users acting like this.
This isn’t even a platform issue per se, windows user complain just as much about denuvo, allbeit for different reasons.
They do, but this is a compatibility problem first and foremost. And as a Mac user since the 90s, that’s glaringly obvious to me.
It sucks that DRM is the wrench in the gears of Proton. But the game doesn’t have official support.
Did you even read the article? This is a matter of limiting the number of times a licensed user can authenticate their copy of the game within a day (based on hardware/software IDs).
It has nothing to do with OS compatibility. It can be recreated on windows machines by spoofing hardware IDs or even - god forbid - changing certain driver installs too many times.
It’s to stop pirates from using one a legit activation ‘key’ to provide the game to others. Which is funny because they’ve found a way to extract the denuvo ‘key’ from a demo and spoof full game denuvo access for other games.
Imagine supporting Denuvo lmao. What a guy
I’m not supporting any particular game or constellation of software. Just noticing the entitlement in the thread, and across Lemmy.
When people act entitled to pirate something, that’s when I think things are off the rails. They act like it’s their right to obtain other peoples work.
Invasive DRM is shitty. And it’s a bummer software does not easily work on all platforms. But no one is automatically entitled to a copy of someone else’s labor.
You know who else acts entitled to copies of other people’s labor? The AI companies.
🤡
I’m allowed to read my book in the bathtub or in the seat of a plane. I’m not entitled to scan it and upload the result of this action in any form without involving the author.
^ this is common sense and gaming companies currently have so little, it’s pathetic. they’d rather see people litter the planet with 4 different PCBs and plastic of the current gen consoles than arrive at common sense.
I agree that DRM is stupid. There are plenty of examples these days where DRM went away and nothing fell apart. iTunes Music Store, GoG, region free discs.
Still clinging to DRM is regressive. And they are hypocritical, because DRM like the one this post deals with are regularly removed from the game after a period of time.
DRM doesn’t work.
People are always morally entitled to piracy.
When the state and corporate doesn’t respect your property or their contracts with you, youare obligated to engage in it as form of civil disobedience.
Media is 100% discretionary purchase… They act like it is rent 🤡
Happened to me with Persona 4 a couple years ago. Got locked out of the game for 24 hours because I was trying to make FMVs work.
This game frankly sucks anyways. I played it for 2 hours and refunded it. Awful performance and incoherent as fuck gameplay.
Performance hit might be due to Denuvo too. I think it was the Harry Potter game that was terrible with Denuvo, but the cracked version run like a breeze
Possibly though I think it is probably mostly the boneheaded decision to force RT.
I don’t buy anything with Denuvo.
What’s the fix, presumably it must sure that data somewhere, or is it an online DRM? No interest in buying the game as they fuck over the UK on pricing, it’s so expensive here, more than Australia too.
nice, I have some games that use denuvo in my wishlist: I’ll make sure to kick them from there.
and for anyone wondering, this profile seems to track games using it:
https://store.steampowered.com/curator/26095454-Denuvo-Games/
Underrated comment, this should be at the top.
That list is super helpful. So many games to avoid. Although, I was somewhat surprised by the number of Denuvo removed I’ve gotten through Humble.
Thanks for the list. I’m glad none of the games look like something I would buy in the future. Although I did see one or two that’s in my library, which I’ve already beaten years ago when I played on Windows.
Any idea why some games are not recommended and others are “informational”?
I can’t seem to find an explanation on the informational.
As far as I can tell, this is a user who reviews games that use Denuvo, and always reviews them as Not Recommended, but will change that review to “Informational” and the review text to “Denuvo removed” when the game removes Denuvo. There may be other circumstances when they’ll change it, though, so if you’re thinking of actually buying one of these games, it seems wise to click on the game’s “Not Recommended” or “Informational” and then scroll down on the store page until it shows you the relevant review. It should be highlighted on the page, though you have to scroll a ways down to see it. There is also a box just after the controller support info that lists 3rd party DRM a game uses, which should be there if the games uses Denuvo.
Thanks!
Are there even any good games worth putting effort into that use Denuvo at this point?
the damn yakuza series is amazing but sega has such a hard on for denuvo
Denuvo makes games bad, so no, there aren’t.
Just ignore all games that have Denuvo. It’s actually working I don’t see much good games with denuvo lately.
Basically the only games I want to play that have Denuvo currently are a handful of games published by ATLUS like Persona 5 the Royal and Metaphor: Refantazio.
I actually bought Metaphor, not realizing it had Denuvo, and then was just randomly unable to launch the game. After fiddling with some proton settings and reopening the game I got a very generic error message with a link to a website that told me I was locked out of the game for 24 hours.
I wound up returning the game.
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It’s s actually working
You should keep following your principles, but that’s not the reason it’s working. The amount of gamers that even know about Denuvo is tiny, and those who care enough to not buy a game because of that is an even smaller fraction of that small number.
The reason is simply because Denuvo is expensive and a recurring cost. Once a developer removes it, they no longer need to pay for it.
Lmao imagine paying a monthly fee for software that ruins the game you made… Wtf
I don’t think that’s true about denuvo specifically. I’ve known some pretty big “normies” for lack of a better term that knoe denuvo makes games run worse.
As far as I can tell, Doom the Dark Ages has it, and many reviews are quite good. I don’t know if they’re good enough to convince me to install it though. Maybe I’ll wait until they remove it months or years later.
CAD$90
Base or premium?
Base
Ouch
From what i’ve heard the game crashes a lot
Can confirm, I gave up after my fifth crash in two hours. So much for Doom being a landmark PC series…
Yeah i’m not a doom player myself but i was surprised about it having so many problems as well, cause generally speaking i always heard people praise their pc ports for being extremely well optimized.
I genuinely wish nothing but the worst for Denuvo. Scum of the earth. DRM sucks, I do my best to avoid games with Denuvo.
Fuck Denuvo
Honestly, Denuvo makes me want to sail the high seas. When I browse Steam and see Denuvo, I mentally write off the game, saying “Might buy this in a couple of years if they fix this shit.” If the company fails to do so, the game becomes valid to pirate, far as I am personally concerned.
I am not paying money to be rootkitted.
Right? In the past we got software for free when we let companies use our data. Now they want to take our money too.
“Might buy this in a couple of years if they fix this shit.”
Why wait? Pirate today.
Because early Denuvo cracks tend to not work correctly, and often require you to do stupid shit like set your OS’s year to 2015 or something like that just for the game to boot.
I rather just wait a year or two for either a proper crack, or for the developer to decide to remove the DRM themselves, a la Capcom. Especially it’s a single player game, cause there’s no need to worry about the player population dying down by the time a crack comes out. And you also get to reap the benefits of having bugfixes available since the game has been out for awhile.
Because Denuvo games take a long time to crack, and only a few people can do it reliably? There are games released as far back as 2018 that still haven’t been cracked.
High profile denuvo games are cracked pretty quickly, from my experience.
Sometimes i pirate games I’ve bought so I don’t have to deal with this nonsense. Like titanfall.
Honestly, I’ve been pirating games that I own on Steam for awhile now.
It’s so fucking annoying to launch a game on Steam, only to have to sit through some update that didn’t get triggered for some stupid reason.
I know it’s not steam but by god Minecraft Bedrock drives me mad. Everytime I try to play it needs to update. And if you don’t update you can’t play online…
(I know Java exists, but it doesn’t let me easily play with a switch player)
The stupid part is it doesnt even work. Denuvo games are cracked just like any other. Pretty sure Hogwarts legacy was cracked day 1 as a fuck you to jk Rowling.
Hogwarts Legacy was literally the last Denuvo game to get a crack. Otherwise you just wait until the denuvo license expires, then get it.
Denuvo cracks are extremely rare though. Gone are the glory days of CPY and Empress.
Yeah I don’t remember the last time I pirated a game but Denuvo just gives me an ice and id rather not.
Remember kids, complain to the publisher and developer. They are the ones paying for Denuvo and you are the ones paying for the game.
If you are paying for a game with Denuvo then you are paying for Denuvo. Don’t buy games with invasive software in them you don’t want invasive software 🤷♀️ Sure, complain to the developer and the publisher, but you give them the money to waste on Denuvo if you buy the game
Do both. Don’t buy it and tell the publisher you’ll buy it when they remove denuvo.
