brave doesn’t eat ram like that, not unless you have a lot going on at once.
it’s chromium
also they have done some shady stuff in the past and the ceo is a hardcore homophobealso they have done some shady stuff in the past and the ceo is a hardcore homophobe
It’s a boy-who-cried-wolf situation. Too many false homophobia accusations have gone around for be to believe any of them anymore.
Do I want to know what “murring” is?
Say “Murr” like you’re a dog. Thats basically what it is
Do you?
that depends on how into furries you are
Ignorance is bliss then.
they’re right tho
I’m never giving it up out of principle, but I dunno about the RAM usage. Firefox was above 7GB last I looked. I have RAM to spare though, so I don’t really care.
There’s a Tab Discarder extension that suspends old tabs so they’re stored on the drive rather than ram.
Yeah tailplugs are awesome
Damn… is this why I feel so empty inside? I’m using Firefox but no tail plug or furry action?
I mean if all you need is a cork to stop feeling empty
Yeah. Use Firefox or kiss a free Internet goodbye.
I worry even Firefox is losing its principles on the matter.
I feel this.
Then use a firefox fork that’s more in line with your beliefs. It’s a pro of open source
chromium is open source too.
But Chrome, the actual application you download (as well as several forks), is closed source.
Agreed. I just wanted to point out that you can have open source with a chromium based browser
But that’s not the real issue. The issue is that any Chromium-based browser – open source or not – helps Google maintain hegemony over web standards. Even if makers of other Chromium-based browsers try to maintain a fork of the rendering engine, they’ll be perpetually playing catch-up removing user-hostile misfeatures because Google controls the upstream branch.
Google still has control over Chromium. Manifest v3 is a Chromium thing, not a Chrome thing. All forks of Chromium will get it and none of the browsers using Chromium as a base has moved to fork and maintain their own version of Chromium.
This means that Google effectively has a monopoly over all browsers that aren’t WebKit or Gecko based, which is a tiny portion of all browsers. Leading to Google deciding how people access the internet. It’s already worrying that Google is the internet for a lot of people, the fact that they can do more or less anything with Chromium means that they can do whatever they want with the web standard.
That should be a major concern for everyone. Chromium needs to be taken away from Google.
all browsers that aren’t WebKit or Gecko
I don’t get this part. Are all engines other than those 2, based on Chromium?
Perhaps you are forgetting Ze great Konqueror ?
Because it has always been KHTML.
There’s a meme for that. Check it out
I think Konquerer is no longer actively maintained.
Fun fact (which you may already know) the two most popular browser engines today are based on KHTML)
Yeah I think so.
Their quest for a revenue stream is leading them down a dark path imo.
I mean I get that they need money. I don’t really have a solution. I just feel very uneasy about where this is headed.
My favorite part of Firefox is Ublock Origin.
Which is unavailable on Chrome?..
If it still works, I believe it has been neutered
It works 100% still as far as I can tell (my parents use Chrome with BO)
Till June, when Google starts dropping support for manifest V2 and you’ll have to use uBO lite.
Google is in the process of undermining the effectiveness of uBlock Origin and other adblockers on Chrome and other Chromium browsers. I believe that change comes into effect this year.
But even before those changes were announced, uBlock Origin’s creator and main dev has stated that uBO is most capable on Firefox.
Does it work flawlessly on Android, iOS, and desktop? I’m really asking, because I ditched Chrome when it was less shitty than it currently is…
mobile Kiwi browser supports desktop chrome extension but has only android version
All iOS browsers have to use Webkit (or did last time I checked). So there’s not much of a point of running Firefox on iOS. It’s basically the same browser no matter what browser it says it is.
Isn’t the EU in the process of killing that Webkit-necessity?
It is, but Apple being Apple, they are going all malicious compliance and will break evening else for non-Safari browsers lol
Also this only applies in EU. To use 3rd party apps stores you won’t be able to leave the EU for more than 30 days at a time as well
Mine is the tail plug, but UO is a strong second.
Does the plug get sent to you automatically or do you have to register somewhere?
I was browsing for plug-ins and extensions and after I installed a bunch, it just appeared.
people don’t complain to get solutions, they complain so everyone knows how miserable they are
and to shame people into making a solution, hopefully.
Or at least that’s what we tell ourselves. Because it makes us feel better.
Best thing about Firefox is stability somehow it works nearly all devices
So for some reason Firefox doesn’t work most of the time on my parent’s ISP. It simply doesn’t find sites 80% of the time. I can take the same wifi adapter and move it to my place and it works fine. I’ve messed arounfld with different DNS and stuff, and I just can’t get it to be reliable there.
It’s super annoying.
And other browsers work fine? That seems really weird.
Yep.
It sounds like an issue with DNS-over-HTTPS. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-dns-over-https Changing the DNS in the network settings of the operating system would not fix that.
Aww man that sucks but hey atleast you can try Firefox forks maybe they can work
They should, might be in a better mood then…
Ngl, I’ve never had issues with either for ram. my experience with Firefox is mostly the sameas chrome with ram usage. The main reason Im on Firefox is cause it’s been a whole lot more stable for me than chrome.
If the majority of ram isn’t being utilized you either have a problem or have entirely to much ram. I’m not saying programs can’t be memory hogs, but they should utilize what resources are there to perform better. It would be like turning on a flash light, using all of the power and then covering half the bulb while trying to cross a field in the dark. The CPU and GPU use more electricity when running at higher percentages, ram is negligible for the most part.
i always hear this but it’s obviously not true lol, if i ever see my ram reach max usage the computer shits itself and i’ll likely have to restart it because most things become utterly frozen
full RAM utilization is patently not something you want.
This is a post about being upset chrome is using 40% of RAM on the system
Chrome might not be the only program running.
Who only has a single program running at a time on their PC? Are we in the 90’s?
Everyone uses multiple programs. Who said you’d only have one program open?
Using 40% for one of your most important programs seems totally reasonable to me.
But they said “majority” not “entirety.”
It’s about the amount of tabs you keep open. Every site will take a piece of RAM and a max of 5Gb per tab if not mistaken.
I think GChrome has a feature now where it tries to “kill” the tabs you’re not using to mitigate this issue but it’s opt in.
I switched from Chrome to Firefox on my Mac desktop and the memory usage was cut in half at least. I only use it on my Linux notebook, so I have no idea about the memory usage difference there, but there was an unquestionable difference on the Mac. It has 16 gb of ram and is from 7 years ago, so it was before the M-chips and their ram hunger and still gave me memory warnings.
Now I never have memory issues on it. All it took was switching to Firefox.
So it definitely makes a difference on some systems.
Also, adblockers still work.
Been using Firefox for years. Still a stupid dumb human, no fur.
Wait, didn’t you all get the free furry butt-plug when you downloaded FF?
I’ve been walking around with it “plugged in” for 20 years. I did try Ice Weasel once, but that was simply too cold for my sensitive insides.
Being a furry is a choice, not something that happens to you :) You’ve already taken the first steps
I am urging you both to install the Firefox Waifu Theme :3
thanks, i like the blue one more tho :3
A theme of the outer space where a Firefox girl lives
Sweet. Dreams.
Somebody knows a bit too much 😏
Firefox uses lots of RAM
And not very efficiently either, can’t seem to handle 99+ tabs and starts getting unstable as you get closer to that number.
Chrome at least can handle 300-600 tabs across 30 windows (The most I’ve ever pushed it) without breaking a sweat
I am not sure what you can possibly expect of any program. That is absurd.
Well if Chrome “The RAM Eater” can handle it, then it’s obviously not that absurd ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What could you possibly be doing with 600 tabs??
Ambien?
Well, I HATE having many tabs open. Just bookmark them for later. So far, FF is friendlier with how I go whereas the last times I tried Chrome, it often allocates RAM at launch for a thousand tabs that will never exist (hyperbole but you get it)
Oh whoops, I should close some windows, because I currently have 623 open tabs in Firefox across 107 windows. It’s working fine, even with all my plugins running. Firefox is good at unloading dormant tabs.
They’re probably talking about their experience on their hardware, we don’t know what machine or what version of Firefox they’re talking about. (It’s possible it’s a really old version and not really relevant now or it’s possible their experience is valid for their hardware)
I think you have a tab problem.
I suggest you try out a 12 step program. Tabaholics Anonymous works.
Are you the guy that posted on the Microsoft forums about Edge crashing after 1600 open tabs?
Hell the fuck no, I only ever run a single tab in edge, the tab to download another browser
FUCK edge
For win10/11, you should be able to bypass using a browser and install directly from an elevated cmd using winget.
They used Chrome in the instructions, but it works with Firefox too. (It’s my preferred method.) https://www.how2shout.com/how-to/a-single-command-to-install-google-chrome-on-windows-11-or-10.html
The winget package manager should already be installed on updated systems, but if not, you can install it from the Microsoft Store app. It is listed as ‘App Installer’ and is authored by Microsoft.
That’s one more tab than you need, tho.
(Hint: use an OS that comes with Firefox – and a package manager, for that matter – by default.)
winget install --id Mozilla.Firefox
i run it at 500avg, it’s perfectly fine
Use bookmarks
OK now my laptop is full of paper what now
And I thought I was a monster with 50 tabs.
Man the highest tabs amount of tabs i get up to is in the 30s, and only in private browsing mode.
Yep, I use Firefox for the idea, but let’s stop kidding ourselves that it is in any way memory efficient or fast
My Firefox is sitting happy eating about 30GB of RAM right now…
How many tabs do you have open?
Yes.
So you have 64gb total?
Maybe just 32 GB?
Komi can communicate??
Komi gonna rip into your furry ass
Through text.
As for the last question, yes the murring and the tail thingy aren’t forbidden, to be clear.
I’m all for people using Firefox instead of Chrome, but RAM being used up shouldn’t be a complaint unless something else needs that RAM. If it’s there, it should be considered usable.
If it did a good job freeing it up when needed then sure, but it doesn’t.
Yep, I didn’t buy that RAM to sit being unused.
It’s specifically about the efficiency of the usage. If it’s not used effectively, then it really is a waste.
And we all know how efficient the Web is nowadays…
Why could ram usage be a waste? I thought only the allocation is the performance heavy part, allocated ram does not cost extra performance.
I’m referring to the philosophy behind the usage of said allocated ram.
If you allocate 5 cookie jars to store 1 cookie in each jar, then that’s not good.
If you store 2 cookies per jar, that’s better already, but still kind of crap.
If the websites keep putting rocks in those jars, then you’ll obviously run rampant with usage. (Read: https://tonsky.me/blog/js-bloat/ )
The goal is to store as many cookies in least amount of jars. You might crumble them down and reconstruct them later (compression and/or clever code) but that could take more brain (processing) power (of which we kinda have, especially on the desktop).
As you’ve said, it’s often a tradeoff between processing power and memory usage and depending on the application, you can configure things the way you need them (at least when you’re coding it).
Ok, that makes sense, thank you.
“Should” is doing a lot of heavy lifting
hot take lol
@Veedem I still have 23Gb free. Time for more tabs!
