Just download more RAM
Still takes 40%
The fun part about percent is that it will increase linear to the source.
I will never not be upset at people who don’t realize how ram works
I’d say it’s more the unwillingness to switch from shitty Chrome as if it was a bad thing to do.
Chromium browsers have a lot of issues, and so does firefox, but ram usage is not one of chromes weaknesses, Chromium regularly preforms better for me then firefox does under low ram scenarios, Both in terms of chrome being responsive, and in terms of chrome not crippling everything else around it.
This is correct. Ive helped a bunch of people (in Linux) complaining that chrome was eating all their ram when in fact it wasn’t. Memory management is hard and it’s easy to look at the wrong indicators.
It does love its ram but not as much as people think.
My favorite part of Firefox is Ublock Origin.
Which is unavailable on Chrome?..
If it still works, I believe it has been neutered
It works 100% still as far as I can tell (my parents use Chrome with BO)
Till June, when Google starts dropping support for manifest V2 and you’ll have to use uBO lite.
Google is in the process of undermining the effectiveness of uBlock Origin and other adblockers on Chrome and other Chromium browsers. I believe that change comes into effect this year.
But even before those changes were announced, uBlock Origin’s creator and main dev has stated that uBO is most capable on Firefox.
Does it work flawlessly on Android, iOS, and desktop? I’m really asking, because I ditched Chrome when it was less shitty than it currently is…
All iOS browsers have to use Webkit (or did last time I checked). So there’s not much of a point of running Firefox on iOS. It’s basically the same browser no matter what browser it says it is.
Isn’t the EU in the process of killing that Webkit-necessity?
It is, but Apple being Apple, they are going all malicious compliance and will break evening else for non-Safari browsers lol
Also this only applies in EU. To use 3rd party apps stores you won’t be able to leave the EU for more than 30 days at a time as well
mobile Kiwi browser supports desktop chrome extension but has only android version
Mine is the tail plug, but UO is a strong second.
Does the plug get sent to you automatically or do you have to register somewhere?
I was browsing for plug-ins and extensions and after I installed a bunch, it just appeared.
Both have anime profile pictures so both are losers
people don’t complain to get solutions, they complain so everyone knows how miserable they are
and to shame people into making a solution, hopefully.
Or at least that’s what we tell ourselves. Because it makes us feel better.
they’re right tho
I’m never giving it up out of principle, but I dunno about the RAM usage. Firefox was above 7GB last I looked. I have RAM to spare though, so I don’t really care.
There’s a Tab Discarder extension that suspends old tabs so they’re stored on the drive rather than ram.
Yeah tailplugs are awesome
Yeah. Use Firefox or kiss a free Internet goodbye.
I worry even Firefox is losing its principles on the matter.
I feel this.
Yeah I think so.
Their quest for a revenue stream is leading them down a dark path imo.
I mean I get that they need money. I don’t really have a solution. I just feel very uneasy about where this is headed.
Then use a firefox fork that’s more in line with your beliefs. It’s a pro of open source
chromium is open source too.
But Chrome, the actual application you download (as well as several forks), is closed source.
Agreed. I just wanted to point out that you can have open source with a chromium based browser
But that’s not the real issue. The issue is that any Chromium-based browser – open source or not – helps Google maintain hegemony over web standards. Even if makers of other Chromium-based browsers try to maintain a fork of the rendering engine, they’ll be perpetually playing catch-up removing user-hostile misfeatures because Google controls the upstream branch.
Google still has control over Chromium. Manifest v3 is a Chromium thing, not a Chrome thing. All forks of Chromium will get it and none of the browsers using Chromium as a base has moved to fork and maintain their own version of Chromium.
This means that Google effectively has a monopoly over all browsers that aren’t WebKit or Gecko based, which is a tiny portion of all browsers. Leading to Google deciding how people access the internet. It’s already worrying that Google is the internet for a lot of people, the fact that they can do more or less anything with Chromium means that they can do whatever they want with the web standard.
That should be a major concern for everyone. Chromium needs to be taken away from Google.
all browsers that aren’t WebKit or Gecko
I don’t get this part. Are all engines other than those 2, based on Chromium?
Perhaps you are forgetting Ze great Konqueror ?
Because it has always been KHTML.
There’s a meme for that. Check it out
I think Konquerer is no longer actively maintained.
Fun fact (which you may already know) the two most popular browser engines today are based on KHTML)
Damn… is this why I feel so empty inside? I’m using Firefox but no tail plug or furry action?
I mean if all you need is a cork to stop feeling empty
Furrfox
Furryfox was RIGHT THERE
Firefox is for the weak.
Real men use NCSA Mosaic.
I just telnet to port 443.
Me circa 1993: This world-wide web thing is interesting, but it will never replace Gopher.
True story.
Me too! I remember mansplaining to my girlfriend at the time how long it would take to visit a page and download images, and how nobody would wait that long to see pictures of cats. I underestimated how much people really want to see cat photos.
Gopher had Veronica. With the WWW, look at what the mess we have.
There already getting railed by google
Hey, I don’t kinkshame
What if kinkshaming is a kink?
That is something I have personal experience with, but I don’t partake in
where?
I put in a tailplug and put on fox ears every time I use Firefox.
“I’m so used to getting fucked by Chrome and Edge that I just feel like something’s missing if I don’t.”
I actually got kicked out of school because I wouldn’t use internet explorer, but Firefox is still the best option. Always was. Even if you need a special chair.
Please elaborate, sounds like a crazy story.
Well, it was high school, and they didn’t like my tail plug. Kept calling it ‘inappropriate’.
Firefox uses lots of RAM
And not very efficiently either, can’t seem to handle 99+ tabs and starts getting unstable as you get closer to that number.
Chrome at least can handle 300-600 tabs across 30 windows (The most I’ve ever pushed it) without breaking a sweat
i run it at 500avg, it’s perfectly fine
What could you possibly be doing with 600 tabs??
Ambien?
Well, I HATE having many tabs open. Just bookmark them for later. So far, FF is friendlier with how I go whereas the last times I tried Chrome, it often allocates RAM at launch for a thousand tabs that will never exist (hyperbole but you get it)
And I thought I was a monster with 50 tabs.
Man the highest tabs amount of tabs i get up to is in the 30s, and only in private browsing mode.
I am not sure what you can possibly expect of any program. That is absurd.
Well if Chrome “The RAM Eater” can handle it, then it’s obviously not that absurd ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Oh whoops, I should close some windows, because I currently have 623 open tabs in Firefox across 107 windows. It’s working fine, even with all my plugins running. Firefox is good at unloading dormant tabs.
They’re probably talking about their experience on their hardware, we don’t know what machine or what version of Firefox they’re talking about. (It’s possible it’s a really old version and not really relevant now or it’s possible their experience is valid for their hardware)
I think you have a tab problem.
I suggest you try out a 12 step program. Tabaholics Anonymous works.
Are you the guy that posted on the Microsoft forums about Edge crashing after 1600 open tabs?
Hell the fuck no, I only ever run a single tab in edge, the tab to download another browser
FUCK edge
For win10/11, you should be able to bypass using a browser and install directly from an elevated cmd using winget.
They used Chrome in the instructions, but it works with Firefox too. (It’s my preferred method.) https://www.how2shout.com/how-to/a-single-command-to-install-google-chrome-on-windows-11-or-10.html
The winget package manager should already be installed on updated systems, but if not, you can install it from the Microsoft Store app. It is listed as ‘App Installer’ and is authored by Microsoft.
That’s one more tab than you need, tho.
(Hint: use an OS that comes with Firefox – and a package manager, for that matter – by default.)
winget install --id Mozilla.Firefox
Use bookmarks
OK now my laptop is full of paper what now
Yep, I use Firefox for the idea, but let’s stop kidding ourselves that it is in any way memory efficient or fast
My Firefox is sitting happy eating about 30GB of RAM right now…
So you have 64gb total?
Maybe just 32 GB?
How many tabs do you have open?
Yes.
Komi can communicate??
Komi gonna rip into your furry ass
Through text.
Orion > Firefox.
I’ve not heard of orion before, what do you like better about it? Is it WebKit based?
Hi, not the Original Commenter but an occasional user of Orion.
It is webkit based but has full compatibility for all Firefox and Chrome extensions. Plus in my experience it’s really fast at loading stuff - noticeably so.
It’s being developed by the people behind the Kagi search engine which is also really good
It is webkit based
So not better than Firefox and OP is just silly.
Why would being WebKit based make it bad? Because it supports the web engine duopoly?
On an iPhone in specific it means there’s no real difference between them beyond mostly the cosmetic. It’s not just that it’s WebKit, it’s that it’s WebKit that’s also behind Apple’s walled garden.
Firefox that doesn’t render with gecko isn’t really Firefox, is it? I mean I get that Mozilla endorses the app, but it’s not the same Firefox as it would be almost anywhere else.
As I mentioned above, it’s quite snappier than safari and even Firefox. It’s clear that they’ve worked on performance.
That’s not my point. My point is that all iOS browsers are essentially the same browser because they’re forced to be.
I’m all for people using Firefox instead of Chrome, but RAM being used up shouldn’t be a complaint unless something else needs that RAM. If it’s there, it should be considered usable.
Yep, I didn’t buy that RAM to sit being unused.
It’s specifically about the efficiency of the usage. If it’s not used effectively, then it really is a waste.
And we all know how efficient the Web is nowadays…
Why could ram usage be a waste? I thought only the allocation is the performance heavy part, allocated ram does not cost extra performance.
I’m referring to the philosophy behind the usage of said allocated ram.
If you allocate 5 cookie jars to store 1 cookie in each jar, then that’s not good.
If you store 2 cookies per jar, that’s better already, but still kind of crap.
If the websites keep putting rocks in those jars, then you’ll obviously run rampant with usage. (Read: https://tonsky.me/blog/js-bloat/ )
The goal is to store as many cookies in least amount of jars. You might crumble them down and reconstruct them later (compression and/or clever code) but that could take more brain (processing) power (of which we kinda have, especially on the desktop).
As you’ve said, it’s often a tradeoff between processing power and memory usage and depending on the application, you can configure things the way you need them (at least when you’re coding it).
Ok, that makes sense, thank you.
hot take lol
If it did a good job freeing it up when needed then sure, but it doesn’t.
“Should” is doing a lot of heavy lifting
@Veedem I still have 23Gb free. Time for more tabs!
