Summary

Tesla reported its worst quarterly results in four years, with Q1 income down 71% and EV sales falling 13%.

Elon Musk vowed to refocus on Tesla amid backlash over his political role in the Trump Administration’s DOGE program, but analysts doubt his return will fix worsening issues.

Tesla faces eroding market share, failed products like the Cybertruck, and a coming 145% tariff on imported Chinese battery cells set to hammer the company’s battery pack business, one of the only bright spots last quarter.

Musk’s pivot to robotaxis and humanoid robots lacks credibility, and critics say Tesla has no compelling new EVs to revive growth.

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      22 days ago

      That’s not enough. As long as Musk owns even one share of Tesla, he makes money each time a Tesla car sells, and a lot of people including I can’t stomach that.

      I might consider purchasing a Tesla vehicle if I knew Musk doesn’t get any of my money. As long as he gets even one cent of my money, I’ll buy some other brand.

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        22 days ago

        The whole board and major investors condoned this. Fuck the whole brand. Now and forever. They don’t need to be redeemed if they do the right thing, we’ll be fine without them. The smart people that actually make things happen will go work for better companies.

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      21 days ago

      If he resigns, Tesla becomes just another car company. Car companies get a P/E ratio of 7 (if they’re well run). Tesla’s P/E ratio is above 160. Elon Musk’s “genius” leadership is how Tesla investors have convinced themselves that they’re not investing in a typical car company. If he goes, the stock tanks. But, then again, if he stays, the stock tanks because he’s clearly not a genius, and even if he was he’s an evil genius and people don’t want to buy cars associated with his brand.

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      21 days ago

      I’m not a stock market person. I know fuck all about it.

      But I’ve been watching the stock for a while now, and that’s the only conclusion I can come to. Someone has to be buying shit loads of the stock to keep it afloat.

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    20 days ago

    One thing that might help is to stop carrying around that human shield. Just a matter of time after that.

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      21 days ago

      Way too late for that. Too many potential customers will now never buy a Tesla as long as he’s associated with the brand in any way. About the only option he has to try to save the brand is to sever all ties with the company and walk away. But his ego will never allow that.

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        21 days ago

        I would buy a tesla, but only if they fire/disown musk, undo every trace of him, and do a complete 180 politically. Oh and make the cars suck way less.

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          21 days ago

          Even in a very optimistic timeline it would take years for Tesla cars to suck less. I don’t think Tesla has that kind of time any more, now that there’s growing competition from big automakers like Honda & Toyota as well as Hyundai, Volkswagen, etc. and all the other EV companies like Rivian.

          Those established automakers have a long history of innovating & listening to customers. As their expansion into the EV market grows, they’re going to put a lot of pressure on Tesla to innovate as well, and that doesn’t mean bowing to whatever whims the CEO has.

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            21 days ago

            Honda and Toyota are flopping HARD on EVs. Their EVs suck, like worst in the market suck. Hyundai / Kia are doing a great job, and VW is boring but okay (now after fixing the 3.0 software debacle).

            I wish rivian and lucid had more funding, cause their cars are top notch, but the companies have growth pains.

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              I can’t speak to Honda’s current line up, but my Clarity PHEV is fricken’ amazing. Best car I’ve ever owned.

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            21 days ago

            Likely correct on paragraph 1, paragraph 2… not so much.

            The reason tesla was able to get such a foothold was because they were innovating where the established automakers were floundering.

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              In defense of the established automakers, they wisened up and got into the EV market before it was too late. They adapted instead of becoming the next Blockbuster or Kodak.

              Any advantage that Tesla had is long gone.

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            20 days ago

            That’s wishful thinking

            • Japanese manufacturers may have started driving toward the party but they’re way late and lost along the road
            • US legacy manufacturers will stick with gasoline trucks, and are rolling back their EV efforts
            • Rivian and Lucid are promising but still in the business of a small number of niche models. Rivian may change that in the next couple years but it’s not a given

            So, Hyundai/Kia. And we’re wondering why Chinese companies look like they’re about to take over

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        Honestly I think the real nail in the coffin for that company would be if another company like BYD came in and started selling their EVs on the market. Cause unlike Tesla they make decent cars at affordable prices.

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    Elon musk, resign bitch.

    His real decision is going to be suing everyone that doesn’t buy a tesla.

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    21 days ago

    Even if one of his ideas were to apologize for the nazi salute I think the “saving Tesla” ship has sailed.

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    21 days ago

    One thing that must be made clear to casual observers is that the Tesla stock price is still batshit crazy high.

    The logic to support the price is:

    Your are not buying the current company, you are buying the cool stuff Elon is making in the future.

    Without that leap of faith, the price has to collapse. There is no way an electric car company will ever support even the current stock price.

    There will be a tremendous amount of copium ingested before gravity hits, but the bigger fool theory will have its way.

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      21 days ago

      One thing that must be made clear to casual observers is that the Tesla stock price is still batshit crazy high.

      Earnings report is really bad … stock price surges! Make it make sense.

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      21 days ago

      I wonder how many people have gone broke trying to short Tesla. It just doesn’t make sense, but apparently the market has an infinite ability to be irrational.

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    22 days ago

    Bet he regrets stopping people from burning down Tesla stores now cause he was claiming insurance for those.

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    21 days ago

    Tesla cannot be saved until and unless Musk sells his share of the company and completely divorces himself from it. Even that may not be enough, as the brand is so closely associated with Musk that his stain may not wash off, but it’s their only chance.

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      21 days ago

      It will, it just takes a lot of years. Lets not forget that Hugo Boss and Volkswagen were nazi germany companies.

      They’re still quite popular even though one made military uniforms and the other vehicles.

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        And that can really only begin with his departure from the company. And his divestment.

        A lot of people are going after Tesla because he owns a shit load of it and we want to bury him- not because we particularly care about Tesla.

        Once he’s gone from the company, then they can rebuild, it eh…. He has to leave first.

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      90% of what is keeping Tesla’s value is the tech bro community’s absolute belief in Elmo. If he sold all of his shares the value of the stock would plummet to almost zero. Hell if he even just sold a moderately large portion of his shares the stock price would plummet dramatically. That’s why he’s always so reluctant to sell his stock and basically uses it to leverage loans.

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          He actually had to sell some of his stock to pay taxes a couple of years ago. And when he did so it dramatically dropped the price of the stock. So no. There’s a rule in place that if you have a stock for X amount of time you do not have to pay taxes on it when you sell it.

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            You pay less taxes on long term, but not no taxes. That’s why you take loans against it.

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                I think we are lacking reading comprehension skills.

                Selling stock = taxable event, taxes (big or small).

                Getting a loan against stock = no taxable event, zero taxes.