Summary
Tesla reported its worst quarterly results in four years, with Q1 income down 71% and EV sales falling 13%.
Elon Musk vowed to refocus on Tesla amid backlash over his political role in the Trump Administration’s DOGE program, but analysts doubt his return will fix worsening issues.
Tesla faces eroding market share, failed products like the Cybertruck, and a coming 145% tariff on imported Chinese battery cells set to hammer the company’s battery pack business, one of the only bright spots last quarter.
Musk’s pivot to robotaxis and humanoid robots lacks credibility, and critics say Tesla has no compelling new EVs to revive growth.
The last idea he had for Tesla was by shitting out the cybertruck.
He could divest himself from the company.
We hadn’t heard much from him over the past few weeks, and now we get this earnings call, and it is far worse than expected. He’s known this was coming, and has been laying low, probably hoping things will improve some before making what he knows would be a disastrous earnings call. Its the equivalent of watching your diet 3 days before a doctor’s appointment, hoping your weight gain and cholesterol increase won’t be as bad as you know it is.
Also, it’s a safe bet that his board of directors is livid, and that he has been ordered by his board to get back to work, or be removed as CEO of Tesla.
There is almost certainly a shareholder class-action suit brewing over his reckless and irresponsible behavior over the last several months, which has directly caused severe, and probably irreparable damage to the company’s brand image AND it’s sales around the world, as well as tanking the stock price, an unforgiveable sin in the investing world. Now that the bubble has popped, it will never inflate again. As future earnings reports are released, and sales continue to slide, the stock will continue to decline, and the cycle will continue until bankruptcy. And it is all traceable to Skum’s self-indulgent, egotistical behavior.
The only question is will Skum be the only defendant, or will the lawsuit also name the individual members of the board, for not reigning him in, or firing him. They don’t want to be sued alongside him, so they are forcing him to get back to work saving Tesla, thus letting them off the hook for legal liability.
Its doubtful Skum will be able to save Tesla at this point, its almost certainly too late. It is also probably too late to avoid a shareholder lawsuit. Investors have lost millions of dollars, not due to the vagaries of the market, but due to Skum’s outrageous behavior, like throwing up celebratory Nazi salutes on national TV, which, as CEO, he should have realized would damage his company and its investors significantly.
And arguing that he didn’t recognize the danger in advance is no excuse at all for a CEO, who should have been able to predict the response to his self-indulgent ego bender.
Shareholders have lost many millions, and they won’t just let that go with an “Oh well.” He’s likely going to get sued, and the board is just making sure they don’t go down with him.
I give Tesla two years before they file for bankruptcy, and I’m only giving it that long because HitlerPig will give him a bail out that will buy him a little time.
one thing to consider is that tesla does not make its money by selling cars, but by selling carbon credits to other companies
It’s a major part of their profit margin, but even with their decline this quarter, they’d eek out a profit without it.
https://carboncredits.com/teslas-carbon-credit-revenue-soars-to-2-76-billion-amid-profit-drop/
In Q4 2024 alone, Tesla earned $692 million from selling regulatory credits or carbon credits, accounting for nearly 30% of its quarterly net income of $2.33 billion.
At least for now, they’re keeping their financial head above water even without carbon credits. Of course, no business would willingly throw away 30% of its net income.
The big thing for them is that those credits are free profit. Other car companies have to buy them to make up for their ICE cars. Tesla doesn’t sell a single ICE car, so everything they make comes with a credit. Mind you, as the market transitions away from ICE, those will naturally evaporate from the company’s ledger.
I agree with your comment, but FYI:
they’d eek out a profit
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- to make (a living) or support (existence) laboriously:
- to eke out an income with odd jobs.
I may be misunderstanding, but don’t they have to sell cars to have the carbon credits to sell? So tanked sales = fewer credits.
Let’s see what kind of a genius businessman musk is. My dad thinks that all billionaires are smart. Prove him right musk! Save Tesla from yourself.
Goodbye, Tesla, and good riddance. Some salutes will never be forgotten.
It’s all fun and games until your billion dollar company gets taken down.
Has he tried stop being a cunt?
Way too late for that. Too many potential customers will now never buy a Tesla as long as he’s associated with the brand in any way. About the only option he has to try to save the brand is to sever all ties with the company and walk away. But his ego will never allow that.
I would buy a tesla, but only if they fire/disown musk, undo every trace of him, and do a complete 180 politically. Oh and make the cars suck way less.
Even in a very optimistic timeline it would take years for Tesla cars to suck less. I don’t think Tesla has that kind of time any more, now that there’s growing competition from big automakers like Honda & Toyota as well as Hyundai, Volkswagen, etc. and all the other EV companies like Rivian.
Those established automakers have a long history of innovating & listening to customers. As their expansion into the EV market grows, they’re going to put a lot of pressure on Tesla to innovate as well, and that doesn’t mean bowing to whatever whims the CEO has.
Likely correct on paragraph 1, paragraph 2… not so much.
The reason tesla was able to get such a foothold was because they were innovating where the established automakers were floundering.
In defense of the established automakers, they wisened up and got into the EV market before it was too late. They adapted instead of becoming the next Blockbuster or Kodak.
Any advantage that Tesla had is long gone.
Tesla understood the Achilles’ heel of EVs and got to fucking work on building out a charging network. This is a strong moat.
Honda and Toyota are flopping HARD on EVs. Their EVs suck, like worst in the market suck. Hyundai / Kia are doing a great job, and VW is boring but okay (now after fixing the 3.0 software debacle).
I wish rivian and lucid had more funding, cause their cars are top notch, but the companies have growth pains.
I can’t speak to Honda’s current line up, but my Clarity PHEV is fricken’ amazing. Best car I’ve ever owned.
That’s wishful thinking
- Japanese manufacturers may have started driving toward the party but they’re way late and lost along the road
- US legacy manufacturers will stick with gasoline trucks, and are rolling back their EV efforts
- Rivian and Lucid are promising but still in the business of a small number of niche models. Rivian may change that in the next couple years but it’s not a given
So, Hyundai/Kia. And we’re wondering why Chinese companies look like they’re about to take over
Honestly I think the real nail in the coffin for that company would be if another company like BYD came in and started selling their EVs on the market. Cause unlike Tesla they make decent cars at affordable prices.
If by “being a cunt”, you mean “breathing”: we can only hope.
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Bet he regrets stopping people from burning down Tesla stores now cause he was claiming insurance for those.
Sorry bud, EVs were championed by reasonable people with stable government jobs. You fired them yourself congratulations you are your own worst enemy.
xAI will bail tesla out.
Wouldn’t it be the other way around? I think Musk would rather have TSLA
bagholdersshareholders prop up his private companies, of which he likely owns a higher percentage than Tesla. The pitch could be that xAI has what Tesla needs for some of the vaporware he keeps promising and that Tesla should therefore acquire xAI.The new model xXx42069xXx will come equipped fully loaded with uh an ai mascot. It can’t drive or anything but it can insult your driving and blast the N word when it see’s them on the camera feed.
Tesla cannot be saved until and unless Musk sells his share of the company and completely divorces himself from it. Even that may not be enough, as the brand is so closely associated with Musk that his stain may not wash off, but it’s their only chance.
90% of what is keeping Tesla’s value is the tech bro community’s absolute belief in Elmo. If he sold all of his shares the value of the stock would plummet to almost zero. Hell if he even just sold a moderately large portion of his shares the stock price would plummet dramatically. That’s why he’s always so reluctant to sell his stock and basically uses it to leverage loans.
That’s not why. The why is to avoid a taxable event.
He actually had to sell some of his stock to pay taxes a couple of years ago. And when he did so it dramatically dropped the price of the stock. So no. There’s a rule in place that if you have a stock for X amount of time you do not have to pay taxes on it when you sell it.
You pay less taxes on long term, but not no taxes. That’s why you take loans against it.
Thank you for confirming my point.
I think we are lacking reading comprehension skills.
Selling stock = taxable event, taxes (big or small).
Getting a loan against stock = no taxable event, zero taxes.
It will, it just takes a lot of years. Lets not forget that Hugo Boss and Volkswagen were nazi germany companies.
They’re still quite popular even though one made military uniforms and the other vehicles.
And that can really only begin with his departure from the company. And his divestment.
A lot of people are going after Tesla because he owns a shit load of it and we want to bury him- not because we particularly care about Tesla.
Once he’s gone from the company, then they can rebuild, it eh…. He has to leave first.
So let me get this straight.
Elon Musk is the reason Tesla is tanking and his solution is more of him?
How many Ds of Chess is this? I’ve lost track.
Tesla is a person cult.
If any other company had such earning reports and a disatrous earnings call like tesla did, it would go down at least 30%. Tesla went up 30.
Sure, it’s possibly the most manipulated stock on the market, and regulators get axed, so we even don’t know how much of the cult is left and how much is coming from billionaires pockets that pump and dump all day to get the money of the hopeful.
There will be a hard line where the Pool of idiots with money to rob dried out and they crash harder than Theranos.
Ketamine does cause brain rot
He’s tried nothing and Is all out ideas.
Is It Elon that is wrong? No it must be the consumers!
Does negging his customers count as an idea?
He threw Sieg Heils and is now out of ideas
Ok, hear me out, maybe what he needs is lots more sieg heils? It worked for that mustache dude 70ish years ago, hitler.
If hitler had given up after just 2 sieg heils then not many people would know his name. Come on, Muskrat, show some belief in yourself!!
Elon Musk vowed to refocus on Tesla
issue is - he should have done that 2-3 years ago. now its too late
Due to sheer china cars velocity - he cant catch up.
