Why do people Google questions anyway? Just search “heat cast” or “heat Angelina Jolie”. It’s quicker to type and you get more accurate results.
“You can just type your search in the top bar! You don’t have to go to www.google.com.”
As an IT guy, I know what to expect when I get to hell.
could not resolve the address “heat angelina jolie”
Why do people Google questions anyway?
Because it gives better responses.
Google and all the other major search engines have built in functionality to perform natural language processing on the user’s query and the text in its index to perform a search more precisely aligned with the user’s desired results, or to recommend related searches.
If the functionality is there, why wouldn’t we use it?
that is true but the results will be the same at best, not better
Why use many word when few work
I just tested. “Angelina jolie heat” gives me tons of shit results, I have to scroll all the way down and then click on “show more results” in order to get the filmography.
“Is angelina jolie in heat” gives me this bluesky post as the first answer and the wikipedia and IMDb filmographies as 2nd and 3rd answer.
So, I dunno, seems like you’re wrong.
Search engine algorithms are way better than in the 90s and early 2000s when it was naive keyword search completely unweighted by word order in the search string.
So the tricks we learned of doing the bare minimum for the most precise search behavior no longer apply the same way. Now a search for two words will add weight to results that have the two words as a phrase, and some weight for the two words close together in the same sentence, but still look for each individual word as a result, too.
More importantly, when a single word has multiple meanings, the search engines all use the rest of the search as an indicator of which meaning the searcher means. “Heat” is a really broad word with lots of meanings, and the rest of the search can help inform the algorithm of what the user intends.
both queries give me poor results and searching “heat cast” reveals that she is not actually in the movie, so that’s probably why you can’t find anything useful
That’s why you just add “movie” to the search.
Or do IMDb heat or IMDb jolie or something
Have people just completely forgot how search engines work? If you search for two things and get shit results, it means those two things don’t appear together.
it’s truly shocking how bad people are at seeking information. It literally took me 20 seconds to discover she’s not in the movie heat.
I mean, when even people on Lemmy (who are supposed to be a bit more tech literate and stuff) insist that the solution is cutting a couple 2 letter words from your search query to make everything much shorter and efficient, are you even surprised?
I’ve been thinking for a while that people seem to be getting dumber and it might actually be true I don’t think that it’s a coincidence that fascism and other forms of conservatism seem to be on the rise pretty much everywhere in the world.
Because that’s the normal way in which humans communicate.
But for Google more specifically, that sort of keyword prompts is how you searched stuff in the '00s… Nowadays the search prompt actually understands natural language, and even has features like “people also ask” that are related to this.
All in all, do whatever works for you, it’s just that asking questions isn’t bad.
Google is not a human so why would you communicate with it as if it were a human? unlike chatgpt it’s not designed to answer questions, it’s designed to search for words on webpages
Because we’re human, and that’s a human-made tool. It’s made to fit us and our needs, not the other way around. And in case you’ve missed the last decade, it actually does it rather well.
We spend most of our time communicating with humans so we’re generally better at that than communicating with algorithms and so it feels more comfortable.
Most people don’t want to learn to communicate with a search engine in its own language. Learning is hard.
what’s there to learn about using search terms
Do you think you were born knowing what search terms are?
You weren’t born with the knowledge of written language either.
Surely you see how using a search engine is a separate skill from just writing words?
Point is, people don’t want to learn. Natural language searches in the form of questions are just easier for people, because they already know how to ask questions.
They’re literally just words? All you need is the ability to speak a language
Whattt
Why wouldn’t I include “the” “a” other articles etc. if I had language but no tech skills
Tell me you’re too young to have used “Ask Jeeves” without telling me
Except Google has been optimizing for natural language questions for the last decade or so. Try it sometime, it’s really wild
typing keywords instead of full sentences is still quicker so nah
You won’t get funny answers if you do it correctly.
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see? it’s easy
It works. It will also find others who posted that question.
As a funny challenge I like to come up with simplified, stupid-sounding, 3-word search queries for complex questions, and more often than not it’s good enough to get me the information I’m looking for.
Is it considered normal to type out a normal question format when using search engines?
If I were looking for an answer instead of making a funny meme, I’d search “heat movie cast Angelina Jolie” if I didn’t feel like putting any effort in.
Then again, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. I’ve seen someone use their phone to search google “what is 87÷167?” instead of doing “87/167” or like… Opening the calculator…
People do things in different, sometimes weird ways.
I sometimes ask questions, and sometimes I’m forced to because the original answer somehow misinterpreted my query. I also do searches like you mentioned, but I don’t exclusively do one of the other.
It depends on the person in my experience.
For instance, I’ll often use a question format, but usually because I’m looking for similar results from a forum, in which I’d expect to find a post with a similar question as the title. This sometimes produces better results than just plain old keywords.
Other times though, I’m just throwing keywords out and adding
""to select the ones I require be included.But I do know some people who only ever ask in question format no matter the actual query. (e.g. “What is 2+2” instead of just typing “2+2” and getting the calculator dialogue, like you said in your post too.)
This is like the difference between normal and right. Like I know a ton of people normally search for answers by putting full questions in. With the advent of LLMs and AI being thrown into everything asking full questions starts to make more sense.
For actual good results using a search engine, for sure what you said is better.
Yeah, the way that i would do it is to look up the Wikipedia page for the movie Heat and go to the cast section.
I always do things like this and it can actually be to my detriment. Like that time i went to Reddit to ask them what that movie was where time is a currency, and somebody pointed out that i could have just googled “time is money movie” and it would have immediately shown me In Time (2011).
Also, when i want something from an app or website i will consult the alphabetical list or look for a link to click, instead of just using the search bar.
I don’t know, somehow it never entered my brain that search bars are smart and can figure out what you meant if you use natural language. Even though they’ve been programmed that way since before i was born
Google was fine as it was before, now it does shit like this. I hate how AI is shoved down our throats. And the results on google nowadays feel so much worse and generic than a few years ago. That isn’t just a feeling I have, right?
Not just you. I feel like search modifiers like “NOT” or “OR” haven’t been working for a good long while either.
They stopped supporting booleans in 2013. This is the list of currently supported search modifiers.
While it’s nice to finally have closure on this, it’s also depressing that they removed that.
Append ?udm=14 to your Google search results
I’d rather use anything else
I’m not opening that Rick Astley link, thank you.
No it’s a real link
They’re an ad company that just happens to offer search as a way to show ads.
Their ideal scenario is one where you search forever and never find what you were looking for.
They’re walking the fine line between being shitty enough that you have to refine your search multiple times (thus allowing them to show you more ads), but not being SO shitty that you give up and never come back.
This has been effectively proven by email chains made public through court proceedings. Former head of search left sometime around 2015 because the ad team was being allowed to make search worse to pump their numbers.
New head of search was the guy who ran Yahoo’s search department while they got eaten alive by Google, and he had been working Google’s Ad division after he left Yahoo.
Huh. Interesting! Thanks!
Add obscenities to your search for the most optimized results. It drops the AI component and seems to provide the more direct results we used to get.
I just get X-rated results.
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-fuck, that’s good.
It appears you were looking for Lara Croft in the nude. I think I’ve found what you’re looking for…
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NuFK6cLDzT4
Edit: I can provide a build script for that.
Debian Linux Script…
#!/bin/bash if [ -f ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/TR1X.sh ]; then # Simply run the game startup script and exit... pushd ./ cd ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian ./TR1X.sh popd exit else # Create temporary download folder if [ ! -d /tmp/TR1X-download ]; then mkdir /tmp/TR1X-download fi # Download and extract game engine tarball pushd ./ cd /tmp/TR1X-download if [ ! -f TR1X-3.0.2-Debian.tar.gz ]; then wget http://web.archive.org/web/20231122035737if_/https://files.catbox.moe/lc2sqz.gz mv lc2sqz.gz TR1X-3.0.2-Debian.tar.gz fi if [ ! -d ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian ]; then mkdir ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian fi pushd ./ cd ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian if [ ! -f TR1X ]; then tar -xvf /tmp/TR1X-download/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian.tar.gz fi popd popd # Nude Raider Title Screen if [ ! -f /tmp/TR1X-download/titleh.png ]; then pushd ./ cd /tmp/TR1X-download wget https://tinyurl.com/nr1xtitle mv nr1xtitle titleh.png rm ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/data/titleh.png cp titleh.png ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/data/titleh.png popd fi pushd ./ cd /tmp/TR1X-download if [ -f /tmp/TR1X-download/titleh.png ]; then if [ ! -f /tmp/TR1X-download/tombraid.rar ]; then wget https://tinyurl.com/nuderaid mv nuderaid tombraid.rar fi else if [ ! -f /tmp/TR1X-download/tombraid.rar ]; then wget https://tinyurl.com/wombraid mv wombraid tombraid.rar fi fi type -P unrar > /dev/null && echo || sudo apt-get install unrar unrar x /tmp/TR1X-download/tombraid.rar /tmp/TR1X-download if [ -f /tmp/TR1X-download/titleh.png ]; then 7z x /tmp/TR1X-download/nuderaid.iso else 7z x /tmp/TR1X-download/tombraid.iso fi cp /tmp/TR1X-download/Data/*.* ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/data mkdir ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/fmv cp /tmp/TR1X-download/Fmv/*.* ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/fmv if [ ! -f /tmp/TR1X-download/music.zip ]; then wget https://tinyurl.com/tr1xmusic mv tr1xmusic music.zip fi if [ ! -d ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/music ]; then mkdir ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/music unzip /tmp/TR1X-download/music.zip -d ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian fi popd # Modern TR1X doesn't recognize the original PCX images rm ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/data/*.pcx # Clean temporary files if [ -d /tmp/TR1X-download ]; then rm -r /tmp/TR1X-download fi # Generate startup script... if [ ! -f ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/TR1X.sh ]; then rm ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/TR1X.sh echo "#!/bin/bash" > ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/TR1X.sh echo "./TR1X" >> ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/TR1X.sh chmod 755 ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/TR1X.sh fi # Initialize the game... # if [ -f ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/TR1X.sh ]; then # pushd ./ # cd ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian # ./TR1X.sh # popd # fi fiI… Really am over paid for what I do if you can just whip out a script like that
I get bored sometimes.
Hope the script didn’t give you any trouble.
If you comment out the title screen download section, it’ll install regular Tomb Raider instead.
Really? Felt like Google jumped the shark quite awhile before this even started.
It been a downhill slope that just keeps getting steeper. They’re basically falling off a cliff right now, and their parachute is improving AI.
A statistical model predicted that “in heat” with no upper-case H nor quotes, was more likely to refer to the biological condition. Don’t get me wrong: I think these things are dumb, but that was a fully predictable result. (‘…the movie “Heat”’ would probably get you there).
I tried the search myself and the non-AI results that aren’t this Bluesky post are pretty useless, but at least they’re useless without using two small towns’ worth of electricity
Non-AI results are not going to generally include sites about how something isn’t true unless it is a common misconception.
It’s not just any human though, it’s an actor, so movie related words should statistically be more likely.
As a comparison I ran the same all lower case query in bing and got the answer about the movie because asking about a movie is statistically more likely than asking if a human is in heat. Google’a ai is worse than fucking bing, while google’s old serach algorith consistently had the right answers.
Google made itself worse by replacing a working system with ai.
It might be the way Bing is tokenizing and/or how far back it’s looking to connect things when compared to Google.
Kagi quick answers for comparison gets this tweet, but now it thinks that heat is not the movie kind lol
The AI ouroboros in action
While I get your point of the capital H thing, Google’s AI itself decided to put “heat” in quotes all on its own…
google strips capitalization from searches
Slut
They love it.
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Maybe that’s why ai had trouble determining anything about AJ & the movie Heat, because she’s wasn’t even in it!
I think Gemini is “in heat”
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It’s hilarious I got the same results with Charlize Theron with the exact same movie, I guess we both don’t know who actresses are apparently.
Everyone in this post is the annoying IT person who says “why don’t you just run Linux?” to people who don’t even fully understand what an OS is in the first place.
Installing a whole new OS is not good comparison to browser. We all downloaded chrome using internet explorer at some point before.
You are included in my initial assertion
This is why no one can find anything on Google anymore, they don’t know how to google shit.
I think the trick here is to not use Google. The Wikipedia page for the movie heat is the first result on DuckDuckGo
You can also search Wikipedia directly.
PSA for Firefox/fork users, click the button to the left of the search bar after clicking blank space in the search bar, you’ll get a list of choices besides just your primary selection. You can add more:
Yeah, first part of any fresh Fox setup is changing the default search engine.
Yup, using the bang !w anywhere within the search
if anyone’s using ddg, you can do this by just adding !w for a direct Wikipedia search, or even !imdb for a direct imdb search without going to the respective sites first.
DDG also has a quick answer AI
Its does, but its less annoying and actually has an off switch
and its implementation is so massively superior to anything else i’ve seen that it makes me want to bang my head against the wall
their AI just has a list of vetted sources which it relevant articles from and summarizes the text according to your query, so it actually fucking cites sources that you can easily verify and it’s unlikely to just hallucinate nonsense. It also has the ability to go “yeah idk man, try changing your query maybe” if it can’t find a relevant article to pull from.
Oh and since it uses actual sources it can easily be corrected if errors are noticed :OOOIt does?? I was using Brave because it had AI
(And also because so many websites are censored on DDG for some reason)
I think the trick is to put the word “movie”
I use duck duck go as well. I wish it wasn’t just anonymised Bing search. One of these days I’ll look into an open source independent search engine.
I haven’t used Bing in a while but I alternate between Ecosia and DDG, supposedly Bing as their main provider. I find more and more differences between them nowadays so I do feel DuckDuckBot and Qwant partnership are doing their thing. I’m optimistic about both of them broadening their sources as they state in their websites.
Searxng maybe?
Qwant
though it’s not free, I suggest Kagi. It’s only a few dollars a month. Then you can be sure you’re not the product.
I never heard of the movie and was enjoying the content you created that I thought was supposed to be funny.
Deepseek also gets this wrong.
So she is in heat …
Heat is an excellent movie, and one of my top five. Coincidentally, I just watched it last night. For a film released in 1998, it has aged well. OOP is in the ballpark, too - a young Natalie Portman is in it, not Jolie.
Yeah it’s a movie that nails “then suddenly… all hell breaks loose.”
Why is the search query in the top and bottom different?
Google correction does not reflect in the tab name; genuinely happens
