• MyNamesNotRobert@lemmynsfw.com
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    6 months ago

    Wait until Nintendo’s lawyers hear about this. Pretty sure brain chip compatible Nintendo controllers count as illegal homebrew.

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      Honestly it wouldn’t surprise me, Nintendo barely like allowing people to play their games. Looking at them constitutes copyright violation.

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      6 months ago

      What, Elon Musk publishing a doctored video making extraordinary claims as a marketing tool? I can’t imagine it.

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        The fact it’s a video game smells of Musk’s touch. Anyone else remember all the tweets he made about Tesla running games on the main monitor?

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        TBH you could replace “elon musk” with “company” just as well. Unfortunately this is general behaviour that has been demonstrated more than once by companies wanting to create hype about their product.

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        And that robot they were gonna release.

        Not the human in a suit, the animatronic one.

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    Heads-up, there appears to be some astroturfing going around. This is not an impressive demo, I’ve seen better without brain implants. If anything, I’m more impressed that the test subject hasn’t died yet.

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      6 months ago

      I’ve seen better without brain implants.

      Yeah, I’ve heard that they have technology that allows you to play Mario Kart with your hands.

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        Commenting to remind myself later because I’d love to check into this. My hands are achy from years of overuse, so an alternative to physical controls would be amazing.

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          At the end of the day this company is pouring a ton of money into a technology that could use it, I’m incredibly excited for the accessibility potentials but just so scared of the malpractices that might (and probably will) be going on. Sadly I think most of the “external” BCIs are in the “study” phase rather than any sort of production. If you do find something that is consumer available, please let me know!

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            Looks like the headset she’s wearing in that video (EPOC X - 14 channel EEG headset) is available from Emotiv for $1k, and the software she’s using to map controls (EmotivBCI) is something they provide for free. They have 2 and 5 channel headsets for cheaper and 32 channel caps that are more expensive. Seems pretty consumer-ready to me, but I’m sure your EEG activity data gets shared with Emotiv, which isn’t ideal.

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      6 months ago

      I’ve seen better without brain implants.

      Yes but I can drive a car without brain implants. Doing it with brain implants is the impressive bit.

      Really not quite sure what your point is

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        We’ve been able to stick an electrode to the outside of your head and pull electrical activity data from your brain without invasive open-skull surgery for a couple decades now. Neuralink hasn’t actually accomplished anything new except making this same thing way, way more expensive and way, way more likely to end in death of the patient.

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          Those are all binary outputs, neurolink allows analog.

          Totally different goals, so no nothing else exists currently.

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        6 months ago

        Reading comprehension? It’s obviously implied that I’ve seen better with OTHER neural sensors, not someone just playing normaly.

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          Got a link to share? Nothing else can do analog inputs like neurolink can, so would love to see this tech that isn’t even been talked about yet that you’re spouting all over this thread.

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    I didn’t know about people, but there is no way I am getting a fucking electronic chip installed in my brain, no matter how cool it might be

    It should only ever be imo used to help the disabled and that too without any involvement of someone like elon

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    6 months ago

    I see where this is going. FSD 2.0 will use human in the loop, saving money on cameras and LIDAR.

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      The current version of FSD Beta is 12 and it’s fully AI powered with no human intervention in the loop. It studies videos of good human drivers and tries to mimic that and currently seems to be doing so with great success. Much better than competition despite not having lidar.

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        Current AI art studies good human art and tries to mimic that. It’s good with broad ideas but terrible at fine details or understanding specifics. “A painting of five apples” will understand “painting” and “multiple apples” but not the number 5.

        These specific fine details are very important for safe driving.

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          Up untill V12, FSD beta was broadly good but sucked with fine details. That is not so much the case anymore. The jump from V11 to V12 was a massive one. It’s still not perfect but it’s really good. So good infact that some people have been questioning wether there’s a Tesla employee remotely driving it.

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            Musk has been promising FSD “next year” every year for the past decade. I’m not holding my breath that there has suddenly been a miracle.

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      Don’t worry you will only get ads in your sleep, no productivity from yourself will be affected 👍🏻

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        Imagine being an early adopter and every time you close your eyes it’s the same fucking ad where Kanye chants: “Elon macht frei” for hours.

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    6 months ago

    There is no way I am putting proprietary hardware and especially proprietary software into my brain.

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      6 months ago

      I agree, but years ago most of us would have said something similar when asked to carry around a device that will track your position everywhere you go. Now we all do that, because smartphones are just so convenient.

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        Yep I agree with your agreement, I can totally see the next generations being amazed by viewing short videos without even having the fatigue of holding a phone.

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        I use custom degoogled rom and custom DNS server on my phone, so I minimized the tracking to minimum.

        Either way brain chip and phone are a lot different. One you can easily discard, other one you cant. I don’t want to dream coca cola ads at night. What happens when they stop supporting / updating it. There is probably something in their contract, where they can force you back on the operating table to take the chip back, if they don’t like something that you did, or they are running out of money etc.

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      A blind/paralyzed person might feel a bit differently about that. Healthy people getting brain implants for fun is quite far in the future. That is not the intended usecase for Neuralink at this time.

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        A blind person? Sure - there are ways to “cure” blindness by inserting chips into the brain, so I’ll give them a pass. Paralyzed people, on the other hand, won’t regain control of their own limbs, only have external actuators respond to their thoughts - we already had that technology. We’ve had it for decades, without the need of a brain implant.

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        Sure but experimental technology is still pretty risky, especially with Musk’s companies tendency to cover up any issues. Ending up brain damaged on top of blind and paralyzed would be a nightmare.

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        blind/paralyzed person might feel a bit differently about that.

        Yeah, because they’re forced into that position due to circumstance.

        Which is exactly why able-bodied people should be free to criticise this model and call for open source alternatives.

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      They say, on their mobile phone made by impoverished children they’ll never see the faces of…

      I mean, fuck the entire Musk family. First in line to the woodchipper when the prols finally rise up.

      But, perspective, ya know?

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      This shit has the potential to kill millions of humans, maybe even billions. I think it’s about time to burn them to the ground.