“How can I return him to the United States? I smuggle him into the United States? Of course I’m not going to do it. The question is preposterous,” Bukele said. “I don’t have the power to return him to the United States. We’re not very fond of releasing terrorists into our country.”
"To liberate 350 million people, you have to imprison some. That’s the way it works,” Bukele told Trump. Abrego Garcia has not been charged with terrorism.
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How are the FMLN working with this? It cannot be a popular move to import several hundred “criminal gangsters” when your country already suffers from major prison overcrowding.
CECOT was always designed to be a Gulag.
No access to legal counsel No rehabilitation No release dates Forced labour No talking
American taxpayers are literally paying for a Gulag in another country that will eventually be housing American citizens (the “home-grown” comment).
Man, its getting really hard to keep going to work. Its feeling like its time to just go ape shit on government properties.
I see you have commented about those intentions a few times. I don’t know how serious you are about opsec, but in these times I would refrain from publicizing any violent intentions without at least being in a secure account I have only ever accessed via Tor, and I wouldn’t post personal stuff like cat pictures or mentions of any siblings in that account. Please, be safe
I feel you there. I literally just started a new job today but I don’t see the place I’m working at to keep me long anyway.
The American people should mob Bukele and hold him hostage until a prisoner swap can be arranged.
Trump then turned to Bukele and said of the assembled reporters: “They’d love to have a criminal released into our country. These are sick people.”
Garcia has never been convicted of criminal charges in the US or El Salvador. It’s hard to overstate what a big fucking problem this is. Due process is dead, you’re a criminal because we say so.
Garcia has never been convicted of criminal charges in the US or El Salvador
Also, you can’t, you know, legally deport a US citizen to an El Salvadorian gulag even if they had committed a crime. Trump here is trying to shift the Overton window from a discussion of if they’re a US citizen to if they’ve committed a crime (they haven’t, of course), and it’s fucking disgusting.
I don’t think Garcia was a citizen, he was a green card holder, but Trump is openly discussing sending citizens to El Salvador anyway. Nobody’s going to stop him anyway, so why the fuck not?
Also, in 2019 ICE sought to have him removed but lost their motion argument and ended up with a court order forbidding them from doing so, which ICE never did anything to get lifted. That’s why the Trump administration has had to say they deported Kilmar by mistake, if it was anything other than a mistake (which we all know it was but don’t have smoking gun proof for) that’s intentional violation of a court order, aka the Constitutional crisis all the official people have been trying to pretend isn’t happening.
Miller recently went on TV and directly and openly said it wasn’t a mistake.
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/5248143-stephen-miller-doj-man-mistakenly-deported/
he was a green card holder
That’s the crime in their eyes.
Not quite. His crime was existing while brown. Let’s not mince words, there’s no time left; we’re in a dictatorship now, and they can now send anyone away for anything. It took a good twenty ish years, but the fascists finally managed to kill due process.
And the kind of defiance our country was built on.
You will fall in line or you will be gulaged. Brown and immigrants first, as a test, and to warm the pot. Maybe you later.
Did any of the “reporters” there challenge them on this essential point?
Not that I know of, likely because they don’t want to be kicked out. The white house kicked out the AP a while back for asking a question about climate change or some shit. This would get them removed and sued, no doubt, and our news organizations are either complicit or don’t have the balls/finances to push back.
Courts ruled the AP should be allowed back in.
But the White House just violated that order: https://apnews.com/article/trump-ap-press-freedom-court-gulf-caffd32aa8ec6b04a50b8c5277d7c9cb
This ruling was made by a Trump-appointed district court judge, and two Trump-appointed appellate judges declined to grant a last minute administrative stay.
That goes to show just how much of a loser this AP case is for the Trump administration. Yet the administration ignored the order anyway, and they filed a paper this morning suggesting that the appellate judges merely “forgot” to issue the steady.
This part of project 2025 is explicitly labeled “ignore the courts”.
All going according to plan.
Of course they did, because there are no consequences, no accountability.
People will peacefully gather and hold up signs. That’s the only consequence.
You know, we should all get together and peacefully watch Winter on Fire
Hahaha no, they post comments online.
If they cannot dissent or ask act actual valid questions what’s the point of even being there? The fact that all of them have not stopped going until the AP is allowed back in tells you all you need to know about how trustworthy any of these Outlets are. Not.
Thats what happens when news is either controlled by the rich via share holding mechanism or controlled by the state. News organizations need to be owned by all the people so that they are able to challenge people in power.
It’s wild to wake up to a daily reminder that the communists were apparently right all along.
Why do you think capitalists spent the last century fighting against communism? It’s a threat to capitalists.
Garcia isn’t a green card holder, but he does have legal status. He’s under “withholding removal”, which is kind of asylum lite. He can live and work here, and he made regular checkins to prove he was behaving, but the government is allowed to deport him to anywhere except El Salvador, although until this they hadn’t tried.
Thank you for the correction!
If Trumplethinskin did not like chocolate milk then YOU could disappear FOREVER without a trace…because you like chocolate milk.
YOU can NOW disappear FOREVER for ANY reason he can make up.
So… is Supreme Court just going to roll over after making an order?
I mean I assume yes but I would hope literally anyone in the government whose job it is to do something about this would…
Ah, that’s the beauty of it. The order was to “facilitate” his release, which they’ve already said means they only have to make it easier for him to return. If El Salvador doesn’t return him, that’s the end of their responsibilities. They don’t have to do jack shit, and the supreme court doesn’t have to enforce anything. Everybody wins (except democracy and freedom in the US, but that’s a small price to pay for a bunch of fascist goons to save face).
Every single function of government that was intended to prevent something like this has failed. Different tools will be necessary to address this.
How are they to enforce it?
Same question goes to international courts frequently. Can rule all you like, it’s all meaningless if you can’t enforce it and those subject to your rulings don’t care enough to listen.
they can deputize the citizenry
Assign those in contempt of court to the El Salvador gulag to help them “facilitate”
Who’s gonna do that? Like, who’s gonna start rounding them up? The DoJ is on Trump’s side, and the Judicial branch needs them to actually enforce shit.
Yes, they’ve been going out of their way to thread the needle of not declaring the constitution dead while simultaneously allowing Donald to be king. I’ve heard that they’re trying to avoid triggering a constitutional crisis because they’re afraid they’ll lose, but to roll over and not enforce the constitution provides functionally no difference than if they had lost a constitutional crisis.
but to roll over and not enforce the constitution provides functionally no difference than if they had lost a constitutional crisis.
Oh, it makes a very big difference… to them. If they pick a fight with Trump and lose, they go to the gulag. If they appease him, they might not go to the gulag.
Is the rest of the Salvadorian society ok with this? I know the guy is incredibly popular there, but how is the rest of the government (congress, courts) ok with this?
Is the rest of the Salvadorian society ok with this?
If they make too much trouble for Bukele he will just throw them in there too
Many arrests appear to be based on the appearance or social background of detainees or on anonymous calls, and Salvadoran and international human rights groups have documented detentions of hundreds of people with no connections to gangs. Detainees include union and community leaders as well as environmental human rights defenders.
I know the guy is incredibly popular there,
Imprisoning or killing people who disagree with you will make it appear that way
Shutting down the government now and defunding ICE would be great ideas. Also they’re using planes for these deportations. Certain unions have power over this.
This destroys their earlier argument that they don’t have jurisdiction and interpret the ruling to only require them to remove US barriers to his return, not actually make it happen. Here’s the guy they claim has jurisdiction saying the only reason he won’t send him home is because he can’t make the US accept him.
The court needs to make a concrete order immediately that they shall accept him back, pay for any travel expenses, and cease payment for his incarceration. And until they demonstrate that they have a method to fix mistakes, bar any further transfers.
Here’s the guy they claim has jurisdiction saying the only reason he won’t send him home is because he can’t make the US accept him.
I can promise you this quote is going to be in Abrego Garcia’s next court filing.
I actually already have a copy of the DOJs response to that filing:
🖕
Update: I was expecting the plaintiff to use this Bukele quote, because it’s pretty good for him.
But instead it’s the Government that filed it!
At this point I utterly fail to understand their litigation strategy.
I expected terrible but Trump trampling on the Constitution at least 5(?) times within his first 100 days is still pretty shocking.
Lemme guess tho! The same americans who talk shit about people who live in dictatorships and cheered their bombings of nations like Iraq/Afghanistan etc…. they will sit at home on their iphones and on the couch, while a tv show streams on the tv on the wall in front of them… and they’ll post so many comments and stuff.
Lol but no chance in hell Americans tomorrow actually stand up and kick out this guy. Literally nothing will change at all. Other than the position of the sun in the sky.
“What are you fucking kidding?” bukele asked. "I put the muzzle to his head and pulled the trigger exactly when your video showed you making the finger gun at the camera, just like you told me to "
"Oh yeah, that was a good video I made, lots of people are going to see it "
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WHY ISN’T THAT MOTHERFUCKER WEARING A SUIT IN THE OVAL OFFICE!? How DARE he disgrace that office!?
To liberate 350 million people, you have to imprison some. That’s the way it works
If we can first deal with this shit right now in the US with Trump, Bukele is next.
…because they’ve already executed him…
