• forwhomthecattolls@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    so when the fuck do we stop accusing and start charging and arresting? I’m so sick of these headlines saying that “people are saying Trump bad! no way :3” like…what are we DOING about it though??

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      2 months ago

      Who’s going to charge and arrest him? The best we can hope for is massive nationwide protests or him failing to rig the election in 2028 and the next administration charging him if he doesn’t flee the Russia first

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        Optimistic take: economic damage could lead to the Republicans losing the house and senate, followed by Trump’s impeachment.

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          That’s my hope but if they rig the election or refuse to vacate their seats after losing, it’ll require the police/military (where many officials have already been replaced by magat loyalists) to step in.

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        I am aware that it’s wishful thinking. I feel the same way you do, but even an arrest is better than nothing. it will take protests, it will take oversight and everything that comes along with it to fix this, absolutely

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    2 months ago

    isnt there a video of him talking about how much him and his friends made from it? its not really an accusation at this point, he manipulated the market.

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    I honestly don’t believe that trump is doing some intentional stock market grift. That would require foresight, planning, and self control despite ego.maybe someone gave hime some. Instructions or something but he sure as shit doesn’t care about those.

    Next up Republicans are gonna try to paint him as a loose “Pitt bull” when really he is just a loose cannon they can’t control.

    Their faces aren’t worth the cost of eggs

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    He has like 30 something felonies and openly admitted to rigging the voting computers. The man could commit murder on stage and still somehow continue being president.

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      He did? We have him on tape trying to get votes that didn’t exist, but haven’t heard much about voting computers being rigged.

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        He vaguely implied Elon was rigging them, saying he had a “little secret” that was going to win them the election

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      Got a source? I remember him saying Elon was great at the voting computers but that’s not exactly the same thing.

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    And? Who’s going to do anything about it? The stupidest people in this country gave a con man unilateral power to do anything he wants, what did they expect?

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            “I get it, people are upset. It’s a big deal, a great deal, it might even be the biggest deal in the history of deals. The Democrats are mad about it, very mad. ‘He can’t do that,’ they say. They’re poor losers. They tried to make good deals like this. Tried many times. They failed, and they’re mad because I didn’t. I make the biggest, best deals. But their deals, those are no big deal. I get it, they’re mad. Mad that I did what they couldn’t. The Democrats lie, they say ‘President Trump, you can’t do that.’ But I could do it. I did do it, and I proved them wrong. Just like when I beat Biden in 2024. They said I couldn’t do it. I did it. Just like when I beat Hillary in 2020. I couldn’t do it, I did it. Just like with Obama, I did it. They keep saying I can’t do this or I can’t do that. They say it’s impossible to do these things. They say many things, most of them wrong. They don’t want to look bad, weak. The Democrats, Antifa, they’re weak, so they lie. They think everyone is weak, just like them. That’s fine, that’s fine. You see, they’re copying me now. They see a strong leader, very successful businessman, and they want to be one too. They copy me. They say what I say, do what I do, and they try to stop me. They want to be me, but they don’t want me to be me, so they lie and cheat. They rigged the economy, set it to collapse with forced ‘vaccines’ and wasteful D-E-I. I come here with my tremendous plan, going to make America great again. Bring all the business and jobs back. The Democrats cheat again, they go on CNN. They go on CNN, sell their stocks, rig the market. They didn’t think. Stocks are going to go up, way up. Numbers like you’ve never seen before. And they sold. The tariffs, I paused them. They thought they could cheat, and I turned it around. They lost big. Really big. Real Americans, we’re fine. Better than fine. The Democrats, they’re not fine. They lost, they’re mad. Only the Democrats are upset, it’s fine. Nobody should be upset about that. They played their hand and lost, and they’re mad. Don’t listen to them, they’ll get over it. They lie and they cheat, and they lose every time. We’re winning, winning big. So big. We’re going to win even bigger next week. 300% tariffs on Democrat businesses. No more foreign workers. More jobs for America.”

          • in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            2 months ago

            String him up!

            This is the only appropriate response, but Americans would prefer their symbolic cinematic marches with idols giving speeches as opposed to any real solutions.

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        What is the source of this chart? I’d like to use the image on other sites, but I can’t without knowing what the source is.

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          If you plan to use it, you should know that there was a separate “good news”-event at that point in time. It would not surprise me if insider trading happened, but that spike could also be from the bond auction. As much as I want the US to lose their influence in the world, it’s important to not jump to conclusions for political reasons. The spike should be investigated properly, but at this point the US might be too corrupt for that to happen or have consequences.

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        There must be a way to surface this info? Surely there are known “insider” accounts one can track?

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        By the time it hits the mainstream media, it’s too late for you or me.

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          You’d have to be watching the speech, ready to react within a minute it two and you could have caught most of it.

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      I bought the dip once, years ago. Made like, I donno. Couple hundred bucks. Sold all my crypto at the same time. That was cumulative with the other thing. Made a couple hundred bucks.

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        That’s the great thing about capitalism: anyone can make a ton of money, so long as they have a few tons of money.

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      I got a little lucky in that I filed my taxes on Sunday and made my 2024 IRA contributions then. Only some of the funds were available Monday but I was able to buy. I would’ve bought regardless of the price (I don’t really time things) but it worked out nicely.

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    2 months ago

    The American legal system will be unable and/or unwilling to deal with it. Best chance is to send HIM to El Salvador if he ever relinquishes the office.

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    The only reason he reversed course is because the bond market was shitting the bed. If no one was buying our shitty bonds, then they couldn’t issue the debt to pay for the massive tax cuts for the rich they’re about to pass. The insider trading wasn’t supposed to start until the market bottomed, they will absolutely try this same play again in three months.

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      They can’ literally print money. They don’t even have to print it.

      Ironically, it would weaken the dollar enough that the rich would lose money on their tax cuts. So in that sense you’re right. I just don’t want anyone thinking that the government actually needs to find all the money it spends.

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      This is what people need to be concentrating on. The cost of the government borrowing shot up 13% in a couple of days. This stupid fiasco just cost the government $70B in yearly interest payments alone.

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      It seems like bonds are favourable when issued by a country with a stable government. Won’t investors consider this a sign of an unstable government and possibly continue to dump bonds?

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        If they have any sense, yes. Perceived trustworthiness is important. Mr. “Art of the Deal” of course can’t understand this and couldn’t deliver on it even if he did.

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    100% he is making bank off this. So are his buddies. What DOGE was all about, setting up the US Gov’t to be fleeced as a cash cow for the crime family. We need these criminals removed and full security audit on our entire gov’t computer system. Every US citizen is currently at risk due to negligence but these fools. That doesn’t even cover the extensive list of civil rights violations and oh…you know, constitution violations. But it matters not unless the are actual consequences. But money makes those go away.

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    Arrest his corporate benefactors for insider trading. They’ll find out loyalty is only one way, or worst case scenario pardoning clear criminal behavior goes on record

    If the conman-in-chief somehow made himself above every law, above Constitutional checks and balances, we have to start by removing the criminals that enable and support that, or worst case scenario take every opportunity to highlight it to low information voters