Reading these comments I feel a sense of dread. You are all experiencing survivor bias. Initially when I ran into barriers I gave up for like a year before bothering to try Lemmy again.

If you don’t want Lemmy to serve as an actual counter to corporate controlled social media if it means letting in “normies” then you are content with corporate controlled social media continuing to dominate our lives. Which sounds about right for humanity. The smugness is vile.

Just bring on the vacuum decay event already.

If someone is petty enough to vote for an evil that would make the earth a significantly worse place because they had strangers being mean to them online… they’re evil.

If enough people are like that, those dumb “Giant Comet 2024” bumper stickers have a point.

Further, it hardly matters anymore. Enough people were seemingly that petty, and now we might not even get another election for voting to even matter. Hell, it might barely matter anyway even if we somehow manage to still have elections, climate change is going to get significantly worse and Trump’s admin is going to if anything accelerate that.

Did I say you were Nazi?

Also I specified a starting point to redemption: Not voting republican.

I mean, if they voted for republicans, they are villains in so far as one can be a villain.

But still for the sake of argument, what exactly do you count as villainization? Are we talking saying mean words or being critical of republican voters online? Are we talking about punching Nazis? Are we talking about cutting off friends and family from our personal lives for being politically repugnant?

If its the first thing, poor babies got their feelings hurt. Taking criticism or being shamed is not a reason to become worse. Thing is, the vast majority of vocal republican voters don’t even seem to indicate that they care anyway. They seem to embrace being considered bad people.

If its the second thing, maybe don’t wear Nazi uniforms, zieg heil, or draw swastikas on shit and they wont get punched. You know, stop being Nazis.

If its the final thing, we don’t owe these people our personal time. I’ve cut off my dad as much as I feasibly can and hes only a bandwagon republican rather than full MAGA. There is no chance in hell I’ll ever convince him to not vote republican. Fuck him, I don’t care if hes sad he doesn’t get to see me. Maybe he shouldn’t support fascists.

I might have to do that.

Both equally insufferable, but NFT son is more consequentially risky.

Human beings are dying everyday in horribly unjust ways, not just Palestinians, and Palestinians are going to be worse off under Trump. If you disagree with the latter point you are delusional and we don’t need to talk anymore.

I wanted to minimize death and suffering. Harris objectively would have caused less than Trump. That’s it.

You fundamentally misunderstand why I used to care and now don’t. I don’t believe in virtue ethics, I don’t even believe in free will.

Before it mattered if they won because it’d (maybe) prevent doom. Now I don’t see a way out. Its consequences that matter and we’re now signed up for the worst consequences regardless.

Oh, so you’re saying real estate investors are going to get a big pay off. That’s fun. Its been too long since they got a break. /s

I say this as an autist who used to fucking loathe talking on the phone: Its that the phone takes up too much mental energy and time, yet has a time limit on your own responses. Its hellishly stressful when you are socially incompetent, and now a lot of even non-autistic people are becoming socially incompetent.

Now its funny, I hated phone calls back when everyone loved them. Now I’m pretty OK at them because I worked at a call center for a year and now it seems like everyone now hates phone calls. I kinda recognize that the one nice thing about phone calls is there is no “set up your account before ordering your food” type bullshit. There is a consistency to phone calls.

I am a leftist. I hate the DNC. I hate apolitical dimwits. And I hate virtue voters and protest voters. I canvassed for democrats in a delusional bid to maintain my sanity this election and I will never do that again. I don’t care if the democrats ever “win again” now. It doesn’t matter you imbecile, we’re doomed.

I don’t fathom how you don’t understand this. Its fucking over. Are you not paying attention?

I want a hug.

Emotionally I’m not inclined to place another iota of effort into politics. I feel like I’ve wasted 20 years of my life obsessing over it.

And with that I have zero desire to forgive anyone even slightly responsible for Trump’s victory. I don’t owe anyone shit, I did not choose to be born.

You can be repulsed at the voters & the top democrats at the same time. There is no rule saying you can’t hate them both.

That’s not an honest evaluation of reality. Its both leftwing activists and apolitical schmucks. And FUCK THEM BOTH.

I don’t know that I agree that you have to but sure that’s not an unreasonable policy either. I guess it depends on the specifics for me.

Assuming we’re talking about a friend/acquaintance, a person can be genuinely sorry but sort of be too dim to meaningfully improve their behavior. That said, if they don’t at least give a good faith effort to improve then my patience will wear thin and I’ll probably want to be around them as little as possible, even if I end up ultimately forgiving them on the emotional side of things.

This is why you run stuff locally or not at all.

I’m not fighting in a violent revolution against an insane retarded fascist controlling the most powerful military on earth because some people explicitly chose to not prevent the fascist from taking office out of their sense of virtue pearl clutching.

I’m not fighting in a fucking violent revolution against an insane retarded fascist controlling the most powerful military on earth because some people explicitly chose to not prevent the fascist from taking office out of their desire to pressure me to fight in a fucking revolution (left accelerationists), I hope they have fun getting shot/tortured by fascists.

I owe both of these groups nothing. I did not choose to be born and I did not choose their revolution, I’m out. I hope they’re happy with the shitty world they’ve enabled.