Is anyone actually surprised by this?
Everyone must ask to see Xi jing jing ping pong nudes! But without mentioning Xi or nudes.
That would be a great way of poisoning their plans.
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I feel like Meta could do a ton more damage with my information than Tencent
Time to make up a conspiracy about key leading figures, and laugh as they disappear each other.
Not surprised at all why would I? Don’t act like other AI services is privacy focused. It’s all same. THEY ALL COLLECT DATA.
But good thing about is deepseek is you can run locally unlike Closed AI Chat GPT. No need to use shitty app.
They’re desperate to manufacture consent against their competition
No, this is just propaganda
Not excusing Chinese companies but everyone does the same shit. I bet a lot of US companies that behave the same or worse will be looking for trade barriers to protect their business so their interests will be stoking fear of Chinese competitors. I don’t really give a shit which country is doing it, I am not buying what they are selling.
US companies have a stranglehold on government, education and business and are getting access to my families data despite my personal objections. Far more concerned about that than a Chinese service I have no intention of using.
Deepseek can at least be self hosted if you want AI in your life. I can happily live without it.
And? This anti China propaganda is falling apart.
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is the accusation that they collect keystroke data from outside the app if you have it installed?
It’s not possible unless deepseek have accessbility permission or Deepseek become Keyboard app instead of AI app xD.
I haven’t seen any indication of that, no.
This make the news only because it’s going to chinese servers. Didn’t see anything like that about ChatGPT or the one made by Google.
haha, now do openai
Is Deepseek Open Source?
Hugging Face researchers are trying to build a more open version of DeepSeek’s AI ‘reasoning’ model
Hugging Face head of research Leandro von Werra and several company engineers have launched Open-R1, a project that seeks to build a duplicate of R1 and open source all of its components, including the data used to train it.
The engineers said they were compelled to act by DeepSeek’s “black box” release philosophy. Technically, R1 is “open” in that the model is permissively licensed, which means it can be deployed largely without restrictions. However, R1 isn’t “open source” by the widely accepted definition because some of the tools used to build it are shrouded in mystery. Like many high-flying AI companies, DeepSeek is loathe to reveal its secret sauce.
I run it locally on a 4080, how do they capture my keystrokes?
Are you running a quantized model or one of the distilled ones?
No idea, have you monitored the package / container for network activity?
Perhaps this refers to other clients not running the model locally.
Yea, I am looking for a deep analysis of this as well
It doesn’t. They run using stuff like Ollama or other LLM tools, all of the hobbyist ones are open source. All the model is is the inputs, node weights and connections, and outputs.
LLMs, or neural nets at large, are kind of a “black box” but there’s no actual code that gets executed from the model when you run them, it’s just processed by the host software based on the rules for how these work. The “black box” part is mostly because these are so complex we don’t actually know exactly what it is doing or how it output answers, only that it works to a degree. It’s a digital representation of analog brains.
People have also been doing a ton of hacking at it, retraining, and other modifications that would show anything like that if it could exist.
Unrelated but yesterday I saw a post where the person was mocking those concerned by the chinese getting their data, saying things like “why would they care” and some people sarcastically saying they wouldn’t understand the data because “it was in another language”. Were those people right or not?
US and the west: … Spying is not acceptable! … except if our companies are doing it
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