It’s blatant extortion now.
Please remember that all this is noise to hide the great billionaire sacking of america. Smoke screen.
I genuinely thinks he also wants to annex canada though
It’s very interesting that he is criminalizing climate change, while seeking to take over the lands that would benefit from climate change.
There’s another fella across the ocean that is accelerating climate change because it will benefit his country.
Remember Greenland… He seems like he forgot now.
He’s still saying he wants to invade Greenland and Panama.
Two days ago he had the head of NATO with him in the Betrayal Room of the Oval Office and he talked about annexing Greenland.
The press was there (of course) so there’s video of it, not as shouty as the Ukraine betrayal, but Trump is still busy with betraying every single ally of the US.
If he makes Canada a state, he loses control of Congress.
He would never do that.
Or he could go the Puerto Rico route.
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Are you really delusional enough to believe this?
Is this really how far gone you people are on these forums?
Are you so delusional with American exceptionalism that you don’t think it’s possible for democracy to end in US.
You’re going down the exact same path that many other countries have. In all likelihood there will still be elections in the US as there are in Russia. But you should expect the elections in to be rigged in the same way as they are in Russia.
He’s already convinced a lot of people that the elections are already rigged, so it’s likely they will “fix” what he’s called a rigged system.
Media control is already well underway, same as Putin did.
You’re twisting your brain into knots to justify all the anti-american propaganda you’ve been fed by news outlets who profit off of your anger.
Come to the United States and see how out of touch you are with reality.
Is your brain so twisted you don’t see the President of the USA saying he wants to annex my country?
That’s real, it’s not propaganda. He said it. I’m looking at the words of the of the President of the USA, what are you looking at? Fox News?
And the only scenario where I’ll be going to the US is if there is a war, and I’d only be going there to blow shit up. I don’t give a shit about how nice you think your country is, if your president betrays us (as he’s constantly saying he wants to do) I’ll be doing everything in my power to destroy your nice comfortable life. That’s what war means and you need to start looking at this for what it is. This may be a game for you, but it’s our country for us. We will defend our country through every means available to us.
Great take. I agree. We know this from Project 2025. Keep an eye on it but don’t let it distract. Trump and cronies are using a strategy coined flood the zone to prevent coordinated opposition against them in politics and media.
I’m Canadian, I don’t have the luxury of treating it like a lie. If we’re wrong, and he means it, I lose my home and my way of life. I have to treat it as a serious threat. I have to try and make sure my nation is ready for the worst outcome imaginable - a fight where we can’t win, we won’t surrender and where everything I’ve ever been taught tells me to die for my country.
Old age, bomb or bullet - one way or the other, I’m dying a Canadian.
Bro calm down.
Life in canada is legit not that different from life in the USA. You guys would be blue af anyways so it’ll mostly stay the same.
I swear, most of you people make it obvious how little you know about the US. It’s as though all your ideas about it come from news articles that exist to make money off of your anger and misconceptions.
I don’t know a lot about America. I’ve only visited maybe a half dozen of your cities and maybe been on American soil maybe 10 times in my whole life. I’ll tell you what I do know, please feel free to correct me if I make a mistake:
I know you don’t have universal healthcare. I know you don’t have a specific carve out against hate speech or calls for genocide in your first amendment. I know you have no limit on money in politics. I know you have 2 year election cycles instead of laws that prevent campaigning for more than 12 weeks before an election. I know you have school shootings. I know you have laws restricting abortion. I know you don’t legally recognize the existence of Trans people, never mind their rights. I know we had legal gay marriage on the books 10 years before you did, and the way things are going we’ll have it another 10 years after you overturn Obergefell. I know your banking system sucks, putting profits before people, and couldn’t protect you from the 2008 crash as well as ours did because we have actual regulation. I know you don’t have the same environmental protections. I know you want people to assimilate and “become” American in a melting pot instead of honoring everyone’s right to embrace their history like our mosaic.
And I know you don’t allow your conquered territories like Puerto Rico and Guam to vote, so who gives a shit how liberal we are?
I like America, and Americans, fine. But you were right there, a short drive away if I wanted to live like you. I don’t. Why is it not a big deal that that choice is being taken from me?
So, you know everything that the news outlets have told you so they can make money off of your anger and sense of superiority.
When you were in the US, realistically how different was it from being in Canada? Be honest.
I can say that when i went to Canada as an American, it felt pretty much the exact fucking same. Lol.
I didn’t get sick, though. I would absolutely support taking over Canada so you guys can help us get universal healthcare.
You’re the one being overly influenced by social media when you’ve been so brainwashed by extreme American exceptionalism that you don’t even understand the concept of countries anymore.
Just think about what you’d do if a foreign military invaded your country. That’s the same as what other countries will do.
We’ve heard Americans say “we’ll be greeted as liberators” before. No you won’t. You’ll be greeted as a foreign military invading a country. Americans will die if you don’t get with reality about this. There won’t be an ocean between you and this particular war. There would be a probability that you’ll become collateral damage in a drone strike.
You’re the one being overly influenced by social media when you’ve been so brainwashed by extreme American exceptionalism that you don’t even understand the concept of countries anymore.
Holy crap 😂
Cognitive dissonance is insane among you people. It’s like you get physically distraught over the crowd being wrong because you can’t rise above your herd mentality.
Anything to avoid admitting you let other people do your thinking for you.
Have these random programs actually helped Americans?
To my naive view, would America not he better served with a far more progressive tax system, in lieu of spending these large sums to foreign countries and various agencies that squander what could be given to the poor?
In what world is giving the poor more money directly not he an effective means of raising their standard of living, which should be the main point of a progressive government?
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Given the crazy spending how much do you feel in dollar value the low end workers would be getting per year?
They don’t get much money back in taxes, no universal healthcare, I don’t think child care is covered. So what are they getting for all the spending?
Maybe, but that’s not what he’s doing. He’s raising taxes on the poor while cutting social programs and not giving anyone but billionaires money.
Read up on the Motti defense.
Chop 🪵 hosers
I want off this ride.
Yeah. I think many of us do.
According to the US Supreme Court, a US president cannot be prosecuted for crimes (if they’re related to their official duties, but whatever goes, I guess). This means that Canada is faced with the fact that they’re being attacked by a foreign power with a ruler not beholden to the rule of law. If they give in, they’re going to be conquered by a king who is not bound by a national constitution, legislative body, nor courts. This is an existential threat to their freedom as individuals with rights.
If they give in
lol, no. The US are about to rediscover why Canadians were so feared in the world wars. If you want Washington burned down a second time, sure.
Something something “greeted as liberators” only for real
I don’t understand their endgame here. I’m sure they could take over Canada by force if they wanted, but keeping it is a whole other matter. They should have learned from the many wars they fought that occupying land the locals don’t want you to occupy sucks.
They think the economic damage alone will be enough to make us give up. It didn’t work in 1870 and it won’t work today. We will survive on lentils and water if it means we get to defend our country.
Gotta go further south this time. Warching Mar-a-Lago burn will be fun.
I’m down, I know the area well. We can call it the March of the Snowbirds.
Turning North America into Canada, South Canada, and Mexico would be a nice sight
Upper Canada, lower Canada and discount Canada
Well that seems a bit much to call Florida discount Canada, they need to work harder for that title.
If it gives me single payer healthcare? I, for one, welcome our new Canadian overlords.
It’s being dismantled by Conservative provincial governments. And in Ontario at least, people can’t even be bothered to vote for a party that will preserve it. But I’d rather stay an independent country with problems that be taken by the USA.
And as a respected media personality I can help round up others so they may toil in your underground
sugarmaple syrup caves.
Hey, I’m not gonna complain, might even cheer you on. This administration is off the rails already and we are barely a few months in.
Yeah, we need an adult to come save us.
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You promise!? I’ll bring the popcorn
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Do you promise? That doesn’t sound so bad, tbh.Many of us will welcome you with open arms.
Fuckit. I’ll greet the Canadians at the boarder as liberators.
Well, that and also the fact that Canadians currently see the US as a severely indebted dumpster where the system is specifically designed to exploit and oppress its citizens for the profit of the few. And that was before we even take Trump into consideration.
Hey, that’s my view of the US too, from ground zero!
if canada is threatened they can just cut out all traffic to ALASKA, starve the state.
This abministration wouldn’t give a shit.
Fuck off. He is a senior Alzheimer patient.
I’m sure Ontario, Alberta, British Colombia … will all be happy to lose their provincial legislatures for one State House. No local representation. All provincial systems of trade destroyed.
This is idiotic talk.
It’s the talk of a hostile mobster nation. It resembles Putin’s hostility towards Russia’s neighbours.
like russia almost, where do you think trump got his ideas from.
Yeah, this is the same sort of unhinged “they’re not a real country, they’re like little children that need to be taken care of” bullshit that Putin’s spewed about Ukraine over the years.
The thing that really concerns me is that it’s not just Putin. The Russian population as a whole fell right in line with it. And so, too, I fear the American population might. They just don’t understand the utter visceral rage Canadians are feeling about this treatment right now. They’re treating this like yet another goofy dumb thing Trump is saying.
I’m a citizen of the (former) United States and I feel absolute visceral rage about what this FUCKING TRAITOR is being allowed to do.
Our country has failed. I myself will fight for your freedoms against these nazi fucking filth occupying my home country.
he has cocaine and adderall induced dementia. inability to control one bowels.
Thanks, now Canada can more easily commit to exporting its energy and resources to Asia and Europe.
Yeah, but it’s a big PITA. Gotta expand ports and have long lines at existing ports which means pollution and blight. Lots of benefit to having a sane trade partner within truck/train/pipeline range. Having to steer around a crazy grandpa means thinner margins and more risk.
Yeah. Hopefully Canada can completely detach from the cancer that my home country has become. And same goes for everywhere else.
For the greater good of the rest of the planet- everyone needs to cut ties with this festering disease of a “nation.” And I sincerely hope it happens.
Keep an eye on the Bering Strait though. A lot of Magats in Alaska, they might leave your back door open.
We’ve been subjected to costs that we shouldn’t be subjected to. In the case of Canada, we’re spending 200 billion a year to subsidize Canada. I love Canada, I love the people of Canada. I love I have many friends in Canada. The great one, Wayne Gretzky, the great. Hey, how good is Wayne Gretzky? He’s a great one.
why tf does the media present this as anything other than unhinged dementia word salad
Is Quayle still alive? He’s gotta be pissed about the “potatoe” thing.
I have no idea what the fuck he’s talking about in terms of “subsidizing” Canada. Either he has absolutely no idea how trade defects work or he’s purposefully playing dumb since apparently Canada needs the US less than the US needs Canada
He’s weaponizing his very armed sycophants against Canada. And is warming the rest of the world up to annexing us. Dementia Don said it AGAIN tripling down on the obscenity today while sitting next to the chair of NATO Mark Rutte, and Rutte the COWARD and CRAVEN piece of shit, said nothing while Shittler shat out of his mouth 51st state nonsense and arbitrary border horseshit.
Carney should not meet with Frump. Fuck it. It’s appeasement. There’s no going back on this, no apology could suffice from the US. This is fucking DONE.
Assuming he believes his words (as opposed to using rhetoric to get what he or someone around him wants, in either case unfortunately, I think he’s serious). I think he sees anything purchased from another country as “subsidizing” that country. To him, its money the US had that Canada now has. I sometimes think he somehow thinks the US should be given things, because…??? Every transaction has to have a “winner” and a “looser” and whoever has a + on the balance sheet is the winner, it doesn’t matter what that + really means. (I can only bend my logic so far to try to figure these things out)
I think thats pretty much it. For trump there are no relationships or compromises. Every single thing is about winning or losing. Eating is him winning against the food.
Yeah orange shitgibbon should STOP buying from Canada. No one is forcing the US to buy anything from us. Don’t need it - fine! Now fuck right off! Don’t buy something from Canada and then scream that you have a deficit with Canada!! Fucking moron.
Geezus. Is he really fucking serious about this shit?
Remember, it ain’t just trumps dumbfuck ass. He’s got a whole cabal of his team telling him to do this shit and encouraging him. This idiot doesn’t know wtf he’s doing without other people feeding him info.
We should be asking who’s behind all these ideas.
Yeah. At this stage, after this much back and forth, this is a serious statement. It wasn’t just a one off dementia thing. This statement was the thrust of what he was saying so this is what he wanted to say. He’s not campaigning anymore, or justifying policy anymore. It was a direct extortion attempt on an entire country by the man in charge of the world’s most powerful military.
Who cares at this point. It’s at least one billionaire. The idea is out there and circulating and Canadian citizens need to get our shit together about asymmetrical warfare. Cause we’re gonna be fighting it for the rest of our lives.
Well, the two countries that would benefit from Canada’s nonexistence are the USA and Russia. There might be a clue in that as to who is seeding these ideas in Republican circles.
I honestly don’t think the US would benefit from Canada’s non-existentence. Any sort of actual war would cause far more damage to the US than any sort of possible benefit they may see later.
Gonna make Afghanistan feel like a trial run when Canadians and sympathetic Americans fight back.
I would not be surprised at all if the white house gets burned down again if they actually attacked us.
What are the two most important characteristics in a partnership?
- Loyalty 2) Reliability.
The US is showing that it is neither loyal nor reliable. This is going to hurt American business for generations to come. Even of the Republicans get ousted with the next election, it is very difficult to rebuild a sense of loyalty and reliability.
The only option is the divest in the US now. Any investment in the US will not be conducive to a stable economy.
Who the fuck is Trump to decide if we’re a sovereign country or not.
At this point: Death to Trump. Murder Trump. Eradicate Trump.
I’ll fight and die for this country.
TRUMP DESERVES DEATH!!!
Not saying, just saying, but the top 10 are 30% Canadian, 20% Ukrainian: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_recorded_sniper_kills
Not saying, just saying.
Also worth noting that;
- We trained those Ukrainians
- Only one of those Canadian kills was recorded by our special forces. The others were just regular recce snipers. In the Canadian military, those guys are considered plain Joe average rank and file. My wife was literally doing range with guys like that today.
To all Canadians, us sane Americans would rather you prefer as you are. This is a concrete example of a “president” that just thinks the way to “lead” is by writing as many executive orders as possible and pressuring other countries to meet ridiculous demands by initiating trade wars and threatening them.
A complete bully.
He’s not a bully.
He’s a fascist.
You guys need to get serious about saying, that real fast.
America has a fascist government, and Americans need to figure out how to do something about that.
It took Hitler less than a hundred days to go from elected to dictator. And from there it took less than four years to invade Poland and start WW2.
Fascism is nothing more than the bully mentality writ large. He is a bully but a bully is no trivial thing. They’re the absolute scum of humanity.
I know that many Americans don’t like this either. But Canada is unable to defend itself against the US military without serious help. And I don’t completely trust that a US population that couldn’t be bothered to vote against Trump would take any action to stop him if he were to give the order to invade.
They aren’t fighting to save their own democracy. They won’t fight to save ours.
Truth.
Oh fuck off. We’re past ballot box, now at jury box. No where close to bullet box.
There’s no way he would invade with military force. It would not only be political suicide, it would collapse NATO and likely the Western world as unified entity. With Russia’s aggression and China’s ascension, the stakes are way to high for a potentially catastrophic move like that.
it would collapse NATO and likely the Western world as unified entity.
I suspect that’s the point. Trump wants it to happen.
Today Dementia Don sat next to Mark Rutte Head of NATO and spewed his fucking 51st nonsense and talked about erasing our border. Rutte said NOTHING. Fuck NATO to hell.
Canada could never defend itself from the US military. Never. Canada could only do asymmetrical warfare and insurgency. But it would also never end. So the US would have to kill all 41 million of us to put a stop to us going FLQ 2 electric boogaloo on them until the end of time. Also we would poison pill all our resources as well. If we can’t have what’s rightfully ours, neither can the fucking USA. Scorched earth.
If we had a working government, the 25th would have been invoked a few times ago. It’s one thing to go along with Grandpa as he rattles of craziness, but when Grandpa has power to make those things happen, and when the ones around him are somehow seeing the demands as rational…what a screwed up family.
When the President of the United States says this shit, is it okay now to say - as a Canadian - that I wonder why more Americans aren’t trying to kill him yet? Like, what the hell is going on? HE IS GOING TO GET US ALL KILLED.
We need to guarantee payment to whoever steps up, and make sure that their family is looked after for life.
The Luigi who saves us all will be hailed as a hero around the world for decades. World leaders would congratulate them for preventing countless needless deaths, and future dictators won’t fuck around for very long before finding out.
sorry for the 4-day delay. teslas are now ablaze in america. i love the way this is all moving. we won’t be stopped. look at the numbers. what will it take to convince their foot soldiers that they’re being fucked, too? in that - ironically - i have faith in Elon Musk.
I think they think it’s futile, since bullets didn’t work. But we have other means. Like remote controlled flying things.
I’m just really really disappointed in Time. Like, you had ONE JOB.
I won’t mention on the “bullets didn’t work” comment. But have you ever heard the word “yet”?
The guy is threatening to annex my fucking country. If you have problems with me wishing harm upon your self-proclaimed conqueror, you can eat my leaf. (not you specifically, of course)
You’d be doing us a favor.
Trump seems to like Napoleon’s quote that “He who saves his Country does not violate any Law.” And while I don’t want you to get hurt, it seems that an executive action from your new PM would be saving his country from a foreign threat.
I would think no, but considering that I posted the article, I’d leave it for other mods to act on if necessary.
A bit of a grey area to me as it’s just wondering, not actually suggesting.
There HAS to be news that’s not being covered about shit like this. I refuse to believe that in a country of nearly 400 million people there aren’t a few with good sense
My pet conspiracy theory is that there’s already been multiple attempts since Butler, but they aren’t being publicized because they don’t want to encourage others.
i agree. it’s probably starting to get a bit hotter now that all those teslas are burning up. maybe they’ll just start arresting protesters. Oh, they deport them now? Oh, they’re terrorists now?
do americans even know what the words “terrorist” or “patriot” or “democracy” even mean any more?
That wouldn’t surprise me. I live in awe of he fact that he’s not dodging bullets all day every day.
I think it’s just because people still have hope that the systems will work as usual and right the ship. I think a lot of people are waiting to see what happens with this administration’s reaction to court orders, etc. But I think that we’re going to start spawning radicalized reactionaries soon.
i like your reply. i’ll take it a step further. i grew up in the US south of the M-D line. What follows are just my personal thoughts:
Americans are busy, and most of them are far too busy to spend the kind of time that i get to spend online reading and learning about this stuff. a lot of Americans (and people in general) don’t like school and didn’t do well in school. and teachers don’t get to do what they want to do. it’s all so fucking frustrating. why does America kill its education budget for the sake of advertising the military during football games?
oh, and by the way, you need to rename that to something like “Americaball” or something. Someone truth Trump.
anyways, people are by and far too busy to care about anything more than soundbites now, and he’s the bullshitter in chief. when you have a couple of kids and work 12 hours every day just to keep the collectors away for a while, what time do you have for protests?
i guess it would be tenable if we still lived in communities, but now we’re all too smart to go to church… and this is a whole new thought, but we need to all start going to church. they’re pumping out little evangies, so we should subvert the church. make church god again!
Do you expect the average American to just be able to stroll up to him with a gun and shoot him? We’re literally a police state. He’s got secret service watching him. It’s complicated, and if somebody was successful they would be throwing away their own entire life guaranteed.
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Give me a gun and a strategy to get close enough and I would gladly sacrifice my life. It’s THAT fucking important at this point.
Nothing changes until people are willing to put their own lives at risk.
For what? Another will take his place. There’s no shortage of people pushing for project 2025 and supporting his political policies. It’s not just trump.
Then you do the same to the next one. And the one after that. And the one after that. Until someone gets up there and decides he/she doesn’t want it happening to them too.
The point isn’t that there’s “going to be another”…that’s just defeatism. The point is to make them realise that they will NEVER be safe. That there are people willing to do anything to see them strung up by their ankles in a town square.
Courage is contagious.
It’s not defeatism, at all, it’s the recognition of an ineffective method of resolving things. Real life isn’t a movie where things just work out when you do stupid shit.
History disagrees with you.
No despot in history has ever fallen without violence. Hell, your own, country was built on that fact.
At exactly what point did America go from “the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots” to “this is an ineffective means of resolving things.”?
Political violence that will make change will be larger scale and organized, not individuals trying to kill a bad president, or two, or three.
Those two attempts failed. Now he isn’t on the campaign trail and he has the world’s best security. The only people that can take him down are an army at this point.
The only people that can take him down are an army at this point.
Incidentally, the US Army is among those who are oath bound to depose Donald Trump.
This is why I’m so confused they’re not doing anything. Especially since the Trump admin is actively attacking the military.
Kinda concerning, but then what isn’t nowadays.
The world’s best security that almost saved the world twice with their incompetence?
Yea there’s still hope for America yet.
I’m still not sure if that was planned incompetence or not.
Oh you mean the photo op that just so happened to catch the perfect picture of mr traitor tampon ear?
Yea not a scratch on that worthless filthy fucking trash bag of an empty head.
I don’t buy it either. But one can dream…
Canada will be waiting!
Has Canada considered adopting USA as a province? USA seems like it needs help.
Americans are some of the most politically divided people on the planet in a country that’s basically a few corporations in a trenchcoat with limited to no social safety nets and crumbling infrastructure.
Why on earth would Canada want that? America may be the richest nation on earth but you don’t see that when you drive down an ordinary American street. All that money is sitting in the coffers of a handful of billionaires and corporations.
Hard pass.
Don’t worry, it was sarcasm.
No way in hell do we want that electorate anywhere near our government.
Can we do a territory with limited autonomy? That way we can’t infect your politics.
Vermont could apply to join Quebec. If they can commit to learn some French. I’m wed get along very fine.
Trust me, you don’t want our drama. You’re always welcome to annex me personally, though.
