Had no idea a boycott was happening.

  • SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Putting a time limit on a boycott undermines the boycott.

    Saw this with the Loblaw’s boycott here in Canada, it was very ineffective because they can just wait it out.

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      From the point of view of the boycotter, having a time limit helps mentally.

      I think more people are ready to think “just buy somewhere else for a bit”. If it becomes “forever” might seem daunting.

      My two cents, not sure if this is the real reason.

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        That’s my thought as well. A one day boycott like the “no shopping day” does literally nothing, but 40 days can reform habits. To the extent practicable, I’m doing all my shopping at Costco now. I generally eat a lot of the same things, so bulk quantities aren’t that big of a deal to manage.

    • Wilco@lemm.ee
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      Yes, just don’t shop at Target.
      It’s strange that people forget that businesses like Target getting rid of DEI also gets rid of many disability act initiatives. There should be more outrage than just a boycott.

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      Just curious as to why you would want to shop there now because of this boycott? Not judging just curious.

      Like it seems you didn’t shop there but now it’s contrarian to do you want to.

      • Bremmy@lemmy.ml
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        Conservatives are literally only contrarians. If the left does anything, the right only wants to do the opposite no matter what it is. There is nothing the right will ever do to say “that’s a great idea!” Because that’s considered losing to them.

        “Hey let’s give kids free school lunch!” “NO! That makes them only want handouts and the children should work”.

        They have the mental capacity of a child and it’s hurting everyone.

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          I wouldn’t want to generalise everybody but I honestly can’t comprehend how anybody would want to act like that.

          Like my views are based on what I believe is right and what a society should be based on my morals and not just the opposite of some other people. I find it odd.

          I don’t even know if I believe conservatives to be bad people and more I assume they’ve been lied to and it’s hard to get them to see the truth.

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      “Yes daddy lick those boots. Go buy $11 eggs and a $40 hdmi cable from target. Mmmm the leather tastes so good”

      • you probably
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    Been boycotting them since my local one let ICE use their back parking lot to stage up and detain folks

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      That is the part that pisses me off so much about this. Yes. Target capitulated. Yes, Target needs to be told that’s not good.

      BUT WALTONS FUND THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION!

      This can’t be said enough, yet we can’t get a days boycott on them for fucks sake!

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        I’m definitely with you on that in spirit. I would starve if I actually practiced that across the board. I figure if we start from the top down, maybe we can get the co-ops to come back. Our neighborhood co-op grocery closed down not too long ago, and all that’s left are national chains.

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          I think it’s fair to commit to reducing your purchasing from these large entities significantly. By design, these companies have made it basically impossible to get certain products except from them, so do what you need to do in those cases. But you can get a lot still from alternatives.

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            I’m a huge advocate of what I call “soft boycotting.” You don’t have to all or nothing this stuff. If a million people reduce their spending on a company by only ten percent, that’s just as much damage as ten thousand people dropping them entirely. And it’s a lot easier to get a million people to reduce their spending by a little than it is to get ten thousand people to go cold turkey.

            Remember, perfect is the enemy of good. A small action taken is worth far more than a big action only imagined.

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        Because if you propose that, no one is actually going to do it.

        Doing something is always more impactful than shooting for everything and ending up doing nothing. This is a great example of a smartly thought out mass movement; it has a specific goal, and a clearly defined set of terms. Remember, you can always expand or extend. It’s far better to get a small thing moving than try to build a big thing that you never finish.

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          100%, perfect is the enemy of good. But it makes little logical sense to give any of these corporations any money or data

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            If you’re on the highway, need a coffee, and Starbucks is the only thing around, buy the Starbucks.

            If Amazon is the only place you can buy that thing you need, buy it from Amazon.

            There are plenty of times when the bad option is the only good option. If we teach people that boycotts have to be all or nothing - if we get into this mindset that a single latte means you’re an evil monster who supports genocide - we just engineer a state of despair.

            But if we encourage people to reduce rather than cut out, we set an easily achievable goal. And that means it’s a goal that a lot more people will strive for.

            If you want to cut out every big corporation entirely from your life, that’s an admirable personal goal, but not one that seems easy or achievable to most people.

        • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Further, a lot of dirt poor people literally rely on Walmart because Walmart was successful at gutting every other business out of their already dirt poor areas. That was literally Walmart’s business model to undersell the competition until they were the only game in town, it’s how they got so huge so fast. Large swathes of the South are like that. There’s a reason they teach their employees how to sign up for food stamps.

        • ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one
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          Also, 40 days is long enough that some people are going to change their shopping habits on a more permanent basis. Creating even a longer impact on Target.

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            I don’t get why anyone complains about fixed term boycotts anyway. You can just add another 40 days if Target doesn’t get the message. It’s not like you’re signing a contract or something. Boycotts are a negotiation, and in negotiation you always leave yourself wiggle room.

            People love to get into this “Only the biggest possible action and nothing else” mindset, and then never actually take any action at all.

            • Cethin@lemmy.zip
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              The one day ones are fairly pointless, but 40 is good. Give it a month and if nothing changes then you have a bit more time to try to extend it.

      • Gerudo@lemm.ee
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        Better than these one day protests that LITERALLY do nothing. At least a 40 day boycott would hit a fiscal month, vs a single day outlier protest.

    • dan1101@lemm.ee
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      There is supposed to be a weeklong boycott of Amazon this month, I forget the exact date.

  • TommySoda@lemmy.world
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    I had no idea either. But I also haven’t been to target in about 6 months and I’ve been boycotting pretty much everywhere else since last year. I haven’t even done online shopping since October and it’s been kinda nice going to actual stores again. Was gonna get a Costco membership next so I don’t have to use Kroger. Unfortunately, the nearest Costco to me is about an hour away. Fortunately, I like driving.

  • Botanicals@lemmy.world
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    Remember there are bots even on Lemmy to push the narrative that we have no power. Billionaires aren’t scared of a couple less dollars, but they are TERRIFIED of us figuring out we can organize. Let’s not fight each other let’s fight the oligarchy!

    • the_q@lemm.ee
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      We only have power when a large enough group of us does something. Anything else is publicity.

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        I urge you to see beyond that. Of course there are people (influencers likely?) you’re thinking about that jump on band wagons, but every movement does and they play an important part even if you don’t like them. Free advertising!

      • CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe
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        I agree with Botanicals. Whether you truly have an impact or not…I guess we’re arguing semantics…but simply vote with your wallet. 🙂 There is little excuse when options abound! If someone engages in behavior you really don’t like, boycott their ass. Don’t buy their product or service. If they didn’t make money, they’d quit their shit or go bankrupt. “No raindrop is responsible for the flood.”

        Look at the Bud Light boycott. Granted, enough of the people doing the boycott were uninformed consumers that bought something else owned by ABInBev, and still gave the same company their money. But others went all the way. The campaign itself was still effective, as Bud Light sales TANKED. Product went BAD. The company lost LOTS OF MONEY. They lost prominent shelf space that they will probably never get back, but who knows, never is a big word.

        You have power, little raindrop. You do.

        • the_q@lemm.ee
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          I quit eating meat because I care about animals, I limit my driving to as little as possible to lessen my impact, I use open source software exclusively, I only buy repairable tech… I’m doing what I can to lessen the suffering I, an individual, inflicts and it’s made no difference. Animals still being killed, Earth still dying, corpos still raking in record profits, people still losing their homes, jobs, lives… I understand the need to feel like you and your choices matter. That’s how people cope with all this. I’m m not like that. I see things as they are and not as I hope they might be one day if we can just not shop at Target.

      • Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org
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        Unsarcastically but sadly, yes. It’s the same items, with the same supply chain and the same issues. But it’s at a lower cost to me. Frankly, as things get tight, we’ll all need to make decisions between our ideals and our bank accounts. I assume that most of us will lean toward preserving the bank account and reckon with our ideals later.

        • kyle@lemm.ee
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          Yeah unfortunately I know exactly what you mean. You do what you have to do to make it.

      • TheBraveSirRobbin@lemmy.world
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        Nah Amazon is cheaper and a better experience. Don’t get me wrong, there’s plenty of reasons not to shop at Amazon, but price and shopping experience are above Target.

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    I used to do nearly all my shopping there because of the policies they got rid of. Cancelled my 360 membership, getting used to buying flour 25# at a time from Costco …