This is such a non-issue. All the shit we could be working on, but we’re going to pick on school kids trying to figure themselves out.
They need to tell people they are doing something and solving issues and it’s alot easier to solve issues you create then those that actually plauge society.
‘Tell me I’m part of an in-group. That I’m great and that I belong and that nothing will change that. Then show me an out-group, and make them suffer so I can feel even better about being in the in-group.’
That is what Conservatives have been asking for. That is what they really want. And he’s giving it to them, as a thank-you for getting him into office.
See also: ‘He’s not hurting the right people!’
The bonus is this also advances the Nazi agenda.
Trump answered a voter’s question about failing school systems by saying, “No transgender, no operations—you know, they take your kid—there are some places, your boy leaves for school, comes back a girl. Okay? Without parental consent.” He added, “At first, when I was told that was actually happening, I said, you know, it’s an exaggeration. No: it happens. It happens. There are areas where it happens.”
Good lord. In a world where people will believe something like this, what hope is there really.
This is insanity
“Love and acceptance unlawful in Trump’s America,” better title.
How long do we have to wait for impeachment?
Have you noticed how nothing is being passed through the house or senate? He’s not getting impeached. It happened twice before with no results.
Yeah, I don’t know why I expect safety mechanisms to still work. It’s an adjustment getting used to the collapse of a democracy
Dictators are never removed by peaceful means. You can’t vote them out. You can’t impeach them.
Him croaking of old age is a more likely outcome.
We just keeping making it harder to be a teacher without paying them any more.
How can we organize funding for a national teachers’ strike?
Their unions already have strike funds, so send money to the unions, ie AFCSME NYSUT etc
What if we just kill him
hey look, it’s the reason squid (and others) left
The fuck is the first amendment?
There’s just no words for this level of evil.
The book burning and internet crackdown will surely start soon. Kiss the first amendment goodbye.
Unfortunately, these are already happening.
Source on the book burnings? There’s a list on Wikipedia with nothing very recent listed on it.
When the book bans first started here in Texas, there were documented cases of book burnings. I don’t have the energy to look it back up, but was reported in a few different cases.
Edit - to be fair, these could have been backyard burnings by fuckwads, not full blown community wide bonfire style that would make national headlines
In the executive order issued Wednesday evening, titled “Ending Radical Indoctrination in K-12 schooling,” Trump directs the attorney general to work with local and state officials to investigate teachers who “unlawfully facilitat[e] the social transition of a minor student.” The order defines “social transitioning” to include using a trans student’s name and pronouns, recognizing a student as nonbinary, or allowing them to use the restroom that aligns with their gender identity.
Ordinary people are going to have to start accepting the risk and actually fighting back. They’re a week and a half in and already ordering Americans not to even recognise the existence of trans and nonbinary children, on threat of prosecution. It’s not just about denying them healthcare now (which in itself is terrible), it’s about preventing anyone even seeing them for who they are, or telling them they are seen and loved. The only outcome will be mental illness and suicide, and Republicans want your kids committing suicide if they don’t fit the very narrow mold.
People need to fight now. Each day people lie low and wait to see where this is going, the chances of ever fighting back get slimmer.
People tend to follow by example. “People should do this” and “people should do that” is all well and good, but unless you’re saying it while doing the thing you’re telling others to do, it’s not going to make much impact.
I agree, mere talk online isn’t going to achieve much, but it might help demonstrate that this sense of urgency is shared.
Agreed! In my little online ecosystem, there’s been a number of stories of federal workers resisting, cities teaching people their rights to thwart ICE, etc. Since that may or may not make it out of certain bubbles, we should be boosting stories like that and sending them around so others don’t feel alone and do feel empowered to resist.
Blatantly unconstitutional, and he knows it. But the point isn’t to win on this issue, it’s to move the Overton window a little more and to sow more chaos.
This could actually be a good starting point for a nationwide action. Very few collective actions are as effective as a nationwide teacher strike. The call to action is also relatively straightforward. Something like “D.C. shouldn’t regulate what we teach in our classrooms “.
I think we left our legal system behind a while ago.
It can still be used to cause delays and make things as difficult as possible for them.
Our nation is being led by an anti-democratic felon rapist conman with a long history of illegality. Yeah, our justice system is the butt of a joke.
It’s only unconstitutional until his SCROTUS lackeys reinterprets the Constitution to mean something it very clearly doesn’t.
What the fuck does it even mean to “support” students? Jesus fucking Christ, I am so sick of the republican traitor filth.
See the comment by floofloof. It has the order’s wording, and it’s disgusting.
But what does “discriminatory equity ideology” actually mean? The order defines it as “ideology that treats individuals as members of preferred or disfavored groups, rather than as individuals, and minimizes agency, merit, and capability in favor of immoral generalizations.”
Oh for fucks sake. That literally describes how racism, sexism, and bigotry work: by treating people as part of a preferred or disfavored groupd instead of individuals.
But what does “discriminatory equity ideology” actually mean?
In reality it means anything that challenges white cishet male supremacy. But they’ll couch it in the doublespeak of meritocracy.
But they’ll couch it in the doublespeak of meritocracy.
“Stop trying to make it sound sexy”
- VanceI think it’s closer to “whatever they want it to mean so they can persecute their enemies”
I’ll never forgive the people who worked to put this fascist in power again.
awww. that’s gonna hurt their fee fees. well, i sure am glad we figured out how to stop fascism.
Oh, I forgot every single comment has to be about how to stop fascism!
Glad you told us how in your post.
Thanks for gracing us with such a smart comment. Sounds like I touched a nerve.
limp-wristed coward do-nothing.
I feel the mad in you, I sincerely do, but when the whole ocean is moving in a certain way due to underlying currents, it is incorrect to place the blame on any individual droplet, for none of them individually are responsible for it or have the power to control or alter it. Understand that the droplets themselves are moving because of the the said currents. The best you can do is accept reality and plan your course ahead. The mad only burns you from inside without solving any problem.
it is incorrect to place the blame on any individual droplet
No, they each made the individual choice to back a fascist.
Absolving them of that responsibility is the same infantilizing condescension that liberal media has been pushing for a decade now.
You don’t get to tell me how to feel about the people who made the people I love unsafe.
If only the Nazis at the Nuremberg trials had you as a lawyer. They were only following orders, after all.
Nobody understands population statistics… Your entire post is correct at a higher level than those shouting individualism, but they cannot comprehend the aggregate consequences or truth.
He’s not blaming individuals, he’s blaming a collective. A conglomerate of willfully ignorant, and often hateful, voters. So yes, don’t personally attribute this to Bill So-and-so, but if you see Bill fly a confederate flag and talk about trans kids, you know Bill is part of the collective and you can go ahead and add some blame on his pile.
Or the people who sat at home and let it happen.
Top names on that list are Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and the Democratic political consultants who destroyed her campaign.
Yes they fucked up too
I blame them most of all. They saw what was at stake and still demanded perfection on every issue, nitpicked, sowed division, and acted like we were having a totally different election where “not Trump” was an actual entry on the ballot (it wasn’t).
At least the Trump voters were honest about their intentions.
And I’ll never forgive the pundits and social media commenters who derailed conversations about how the Dems tone-deaf campaigning (e.g. promising the most lethal military in the world, Liz Cheney, etc.) was going to make some voters stay home and risked losing the election, very much like how the Dems blew elections in 2016 and 2004. Whining about alienating your own voters is like a football team whining about their opponents scoring too many points when they should be firing their head coach.
“And I’ll never forgive the pundits and social media commenters who derailed conversations about how the Dems tone-deaf campaigning”
“Whining about alienating your own voters is like a football team whining about their opponents scoring too many points when they should be firing their head coach.”
At some point in-fighting doesn’t help and you need to commit to the game plan. Getting Biden to drop out was obviously the right choice. Whining about Dems being too moderate is just making everyone discontent. For anyone who was building up anger towards the Dems instead of advocating for decency, fuck ALL THE WAY off.
You can be repulsed at the voters & the top democrats at the same time. There is no rule saying you can’t hate them both.
My pet theory is actually that Bernie helped, rather than gutted HRC/Biden. Through his primary campaign so many young people became convinced to vote Democrat. Even if Berniebros were disappointed, most of them still voted for a Democrat in the general election.
One thing you could really see in this election was that confused progressives moved to Trump (or stayed home) after a successful misinformation campaign. Would have been far harder for that misinformation to find a home, if progressive voters had already voted in the Democratic primary, and their preferred candidate had pointed them to the winner of the primary.
You could even see this on the GOP side. Because Hailey supported Trump, almost no GOP voters defected in the general election which ultimately resulted in the complete failure of the Democratic strategy.
TLDR: primaries with a wide variety of choices are extremely helpful in the General election.
And they’re still trying to justify it, because preventing this shit want exciting enough or something. I don’t give the Democrats a pass on fucking the dog this cycle, but the voters knew what was on the table and choose not to vote against it and that’s so much worse imo. They let one out two issues condemn entire groups of marginalized people, and still cry BoTh SiDeS.
one or two issues
Damn, I wonder what it was about the outreach to these people that failed. The Democratic attitude of addressing issues by minimizing or dismissing voter’s legitimate issues couldn’t possibly depress voter turnout. /s
Fucking neoliberal brain-rot.
Well gee, looks like you really showed those neolibs what for!
And as I said before, one or two issues doomed all the issues. Some people can’t be bothered to give a fuck about long term consequences because they’re not excited enough about the party or some other excuse. I hope non-voters are happy with the outcome they voted for.
ETA: you can think I’m a neolibs all you want to make you feel better about the awful outcome, but I can sleep well at night knowing that I tried to keep things from getting worse by CoMpRoMiSiNg My MoRaLs and voted for the Democrats because I didn’t want more genocide and I care about the people around me.
I voted Kamala, but she and Biden let me down. It wasn’t one or two issues, it was a total breakdown of her campaign communication strategy. When you look at what apolitical idiot voters got from the media, it’s a wonder she didn’t lose by more.
Part of that communication failure was in not taking serious issues seriously. People aren’t going to get off the couch for someone who summarily dismisses their legitimate outrage.
I definitely blame those the cast their vote for Trump the most, because they literally voted for him. I blame non voters a close second.
Fucking crazy to me that so many people left of center are fighting over who to blame on their side when the people who voted for it are right there and in power.
That’s a false narrative. The people who stayed home weren’t the ones “demanding” anything. The ones making demands were almost entirely the ones who understood that other people would stay home. Your attacking people like me who were outraged by the actions of the Biden administration and the incompetency of the Kamala campaign, both because of the horrors they represent, and because we knew the vote would be suppressed. I voted for Kamala, but she let me down.
The people who stay home aren’t the left wing activists, they are the apolitical schmucks who don’t even consider voting until the week or day of the election.
That’s not an honest evaluation of reality. Its both leftwing activists and apolitical schmucks. And FUCK THEM BOTH.
If the left ever actually abandons the Democrats, they will never win another election again. Leftwing activists are the only activists the Democrats have. What do you think the Democratic ground game would look like without activists?
As a self appointed representative of left wing activism, no, fuck you. You did this.
I am a leftist. I hate the DNC. I hate apolitical dimwits. And I hate virtue voters and protest voters. I canvassed for democrats in a delusional bid to maintain my sanity this election and I will never do that again. I don’t care if the democrats ever “win again” now. It doesn’t matter you imbecile, we’re doomed.
I don’t fathom how you don’t understand this. Its fucking over. Are you not paying attention?
I hate virtue voters
I don’t care if the democrats ever “win again” now.
So, what you’re saying is that they got there ahead of you. I guess we do become what we hate.
I don’t fathom how you don’t understand this. Its fucking over.
Not while the Earth still spins and my heart is still beating. It’s not over, it just got hard.
I don’t fathom how you don’t understand this. Its fucking over. Are you not paying attention?
This is why I wanted people to be able to see beyond the possibility (or probability) of electing Trump. It seems to me the entire left side of the country (and even some of the apolitical people) bet the entire house on Trump not winning again, and when he won again they have absolutely no answer for it.
It’s also what I found so frustrating about the “Genocide Joe” gang, because they were pretending the entire time that it wouldn’t be such a big deal if Trump got elected…that we would somehow be able to magically have a revolution or something and be able to handle a full-on fascist slide…that there would be a response from outside of the electoral and political system that would allow them to accomplish their purported goals if people just didn’t vote.
Well, we’re here. He’s elected. He’s in power. What the fuck is this supposed response and when is it starting?
The only people beneath Trump supporters in this society are people that didn’t bother to vote. They are scum.
What do you expect us non-Americans to do about it?
I don’t think they were referring to you buddy.
I was hoping you’d assume that I am talking about the people who were able to vote who sat at home.
All I can suggest for the rest of you is to buckle up
Such a reactionary take. There’s a more than good chance the election was manipulated through voter suppression and purges. If we continue to look to the past and blame each other for failing to prevent Trump, the fascists will continue to use that to their advantage. There will be many Trump voters that were misinformed that want to resist, we must welcome the support. To get through this and move forward positively, we must look past grievances and work together.
There will be many Trump voters that were misinformed that want to resist, we must welcome the support.
There must be a path to redemption. It’s there for anyone who wants to take it.
To get through this and move forward positively, we must look past grievances and work together.
While this is true, that path to redemption has to be taken first. Until then, my grievances stand firm.
Yeah it’s a reactionary take. A reaction to the chucklefucks who sat at home.
Has everyone collectively forgotten how Trump literally bragged that his buddy Elawn can hack the voting machines? It was like he was nodding to ‘the hacker named 4chan’ and grinning that he was on the payroll.
It also assumes the outcome of our election was ever going to be fair, as if the captured Supreme Court wouldn’t have intervened in a close election to give Trump the presidency anyway. Harris needed a landslide victory to have a chance to avoid the election getting stolen, and by August it was clear she could not get one.
Emotionally I’m not inclined to place another iota of effort into politics. I feel like I’ve wasted 20 years of my life obsessing over it.
And with that I have zero desire to forgive anyone even slightly responsible for Trump’s victory. I don’t owe anyone shit, I did not choose to be born.
I am the exact same.
8 years, as I only started caring about politics when I saw Trump stamping his little feet over all of the progress we had made after Obama.
Now, I’m ready to watch this shit burn. Fuck it. I’ve got my one way ticket ready for when it truly goes to hell.
At least there’s no more genocide going on anywhere in the world.
And he singlehandedly stopped the war in Ukraine on day one like he said
I’m pretty sure stores are paying you to take eggs now, too.
We’re all so rich now, my landlord just gifted me my apartment.
I have met people who voted for trump because they didn’t like Hillary, or didn’t like biden and “didn’t realize what he’d do” and far, far too many people he targets like immigrants who support him, for a Myriad of reasons, but many, saying he wont target us because we supported him or “He’s not going to target us, just ‘insert country here’”. The leopards earing faces voters are very real and have put so much on themselves and everyone around them.
That excuse runs hollow this time around. He said exactly what he was going to do and is doing it. None of his is a surprise except to especially ignorant.
Well we couldn’t have bLuEmAGA in power after all! That would have been worse!/s
Yeah! God forbid we keep Democracy running for a few more years while we all get our collective asses into gear and start tackling issues one at a time instead of being tugged to and fro from issue to issue!
One can dream, at least.
It’s been “a few more years” every election of my life. Nobody was ever going to take collective action to actually change the Democrat party, and the Republicans have been working for this endgame the whole time. The last two decades have been a slow motion car-crash.
