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Genocide is the word you’re looking for
Genocide is a form of ethnic cleansing. V
Oh I know, but one word has a much bigger social impact than the other.
Its the same difference between molested and raped. You typically see in news headers that an adult male raped a little girl, but an adult women molested a little boy. One sounds much worse than the other, yet both are the same thing
US President Donald Trump is facing widespread criticism and accusations of proposing ethnic cleansing after stating that he would like to “just clean out” Gaza and relocate its Palestinian population to neighbouring countries.
Speaking aboard Air Force One during a flight from Las Vegas to Miami on Saturday, Trump described Gaza as a “demolition site” and suggested moving its residents to Jordan and Egypt.
“I’d like Egypt to take people. I’d like Jordan to take people,” Trump said. “You’re talking about probably a million and a half people, and we just clean out that whole thing.”
He added that the move could be either temporary or long-term, saying, “something has to happen”
To everybody who voted against Kamala Harris because she didn’t change her stance on Gaza, how does it feel to be played harder than a tenor saxophone?
Funny that you think Gaza genocide was the reason people didn’t vote vs pure laziness. The Gaza thing was a scapegoat for 90% of them.
How did we get played. The Biden/Harris admin was already doing ethnic cleansing of Palestinians this is nothing new
Trump is probably even more pro-Israel than Biden.
It’s a real photo finish for which admin wants more dead Palestinians.
How did we get played?
You’ll often see Zionists condemn Egypt and Syria for not taking the Palestinians “oh the Palestinians are so bad that even the other Muslim countries won’t take them”. No, they just don’t want to be complicit in ethnic cleansing.
middleeasteye is a Qatari government funded media
ABC is an Australian government funded media
BBC is a British government funded media
CBC is a Canadian government funded media PBS is an American government funded mediaWhat’s your point?
Don’t believe Govt mouthpieces ? I guess
#neckpussy
definitively yes
different president, same soulless husk
Two days after he was elected the UN was reporting 92% of residential buildings were damaged and destroyed. The genocide was almost done before Trump got in office and people are still out here pretending Biden was any better.
https://www.dezeen.com/2025/01/22/gaza-housing-92-per-cent-destroyed-damaged-un-report/
Biden was [poorly] negotiating peace.
Trump wants to help Israel finish the job.
If you want to stretch words that far Trump is [poorly] negotiating our climate commitments
I’m not stretching anything. Biden did negotiate a ceasefire. He could have done it much sooner if he had cut off the weapons, but a lot of that was on Congress for pushing to keep those congressionally mandated weapon shipments flowing.
Trump is actively working against the climate.
Idiotic comparisons like yours do not help anything.
Backlash only matters if he or anyone he surrounds himself with actually gives a shit.
Hell, it only matters if anyone cares, and based on the Dems and GOP in the US, neither of them really, honestly care. And most Harris supporters don’t care either, as well as, well, I can safely say no Trump voters care.
There are large communities of muslims in the midwest. MN, MI, & WI are all battle ground states. It’s part of why Harris lost.
It’s not really ethnic cleansing because the last year hasn’t been that.
Love that all the pearl clutchers are in this thread to say that NOW the genocide is bad, as if they’ll catch leftists in a whataboutism.
The truth is that Trump is giving the same carte blanche that Biden did to Bibi. It remains on the people of Israel to stop this conflict, as it always has. You can’t pretend the genocide is only bad when your enemy is doing it, this was the same plan under Biden. Trump just likes bragging about the cruelty, whereas Biden was smart enough to pretend to care.
Both candidates are bad on one issue so it’s all the same! No. Fuck you.
People clicked this thread for the topic of this issue. So, he’s making a point about this one issue. Don’t see any statements claiming Trump has a level head on anything else.
Well, one candidate was bad on their economic policies. Starting off with “The economy is doing fabulously, so you poor people just need to shut up, and vote for me because you owe me your vote” policy…
Voting for the guy who campaigned on taking actions that would very obviously make it even worse for the poor people, over the guy who tried many things to further help poor people but was blocked by the opposing party in Congress, was a real big brain move of yours.
Jokes on you, I gritted my teeth, and voted for Harris. I just didn’t aid her campaign, and chose to 100% work on a local socialists’ campaign.
I’m glad you saw the importance of working locally. Too many third party wishers think they can jump immediately to the presidency
Given how concerned you are with 3rd party voters, surly you’re working towards replacing First-past-the-post voting in your state.
The election is over, now is the time to make the changes we need so people can vote outside the two party system with no spoiler effect.
So, which is it? Do you support democracy or do you get off screeching at disenfranchised voters to vote for your blue conservatives?
Yeah… how silly to base the economy doing well on data and facts. My gut tells me it’s bad.
If the whole world is doing badly economically, but we’re doing much LESS badly, then the economy is fine. What’s NOT good is education, which is why people aren’t smart enough to see this.
Yeah… how silly to base the economy doing well on data and facts.
Oh, data you’re interested in?
Ok, how about the data point that says homelessness is skyrocketing? Does that mean economy good, just because stonk line goes up?
If the whole world is doing badly economically, but we’re doing much LESS badly, then the economy is fine
Less bad is not at all the same thing as “doing great”.
What’s NOT good is education, which is why people aren’t smart enough to see this.
Yes, people are not smart enough to see if you have mass homelessness, mass food insecurity, and people considering copycatting a CEO killer… The economy is doing great!
Both candidates were bad on a lot of issues, but I’m glad you jumped to a conclusion that I never stated to prove my point so quickly.
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when utilitarianism seems less burdensome than whatever twisted knot the “genocide joe” folks have to tell themselves justify their actions, you gotta wonder about the choices they made.
The carnage in Palestine is far reduced now than it was a month ago. I have no confidence that it will hold, but so far the only way that Trump has been worse than Biden on the issue is that Trump is explicit in his rhetoric as opposed to trying to sugar coat it. I realize that to Americans, who are only directly effected by the genocide in so far as hearing about it makes them sad, having their leaders tell them soothing lies means everything, but to those actually in Palestine, it doesn’t make a material difference.
So “not sugarcoating it” is supplying the Israeli government with the penetrating bombs that increase civilian casualties that Biden halted?
Biden may have been largely indifferent to Gazans but Trump is actively hostile and will encourage the brutality in spite of other pressures such as the ICC, which we already see him pushing the ICC to relieve Netanyahu.
when utilitarianism seems less burdensome
How burdensome was it to watch 40K Palestinians die at the hands of weapons made, and supplied, by the US, and fully supported by Biden?
Genocide Joe was actually doing ethnic cleansing, so far trump is only talking about it
Oh, did his administration stop supplying weapons to Israel?
Oh, so now providing weapons to Israel is ethnic cleansing?
If a known mass murderer asks for a gun and bullets do you consider it ethical to give them an assault rifle and 10,000 rounds and then refuse to even remotely resist when they proceed to use those items to commit mass murder?
So you agree that supplying weapons to Israel for the last 15 months was ethic cleansing. You agree that Biden and Trump are both pro-ethic cleansing
The guy who defines everything by "great countries " and “shithole countries” wants to clean the shithole out and all the shitty people. Hmmm
I can’t believe there are actually people who are surprised about his ‘proposal’ at all. Like… everyone saw this coming, right? Plenty of people have been warning other people for years that Trump would do this sort of shit.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just an alarmist fearmonger. Or whatever they used to call me.
I don’t mean to defend the Democrats, but the Pro-Palestine crowd has been throwing all the blame on the Democratic Party for the Gaza genocide. Which was wrong-headed as it was pretty obvious that the Trump admin would double down on US support to Israel… where the Democrats did do something to resolve the conflict.
where the Democrats did do something to resolve the conflict.
What are you referring to? Biden claimed to be “working toward” a ceasefire for 15 months then Trump’s ambassador went over there for 3 days and the ceasefire immediately happened.
Trump is pro-genocide and has no problem wiping out all Palestinian life but him and Biden are equally as bad on this issue
I don’t mean to defend the Democrats, but the Pro-Palestine crowd has been throwing all the blame on the Democratic Party for the Gaza genocide.
The Pro-Palestine crowd has been throwing all the blame on the Democratic party for the Gaza genocide because the Democratic party was in power for all of the span of the genocide until Trump and Republicans took power a week ago or so.
Let me explain this to you and please listen, now the Pro-Palestine crowd will throw all the additional blame on the Republican Party and Donald Trump for being in power as the genocide worsens because we all know it tragically very likely wilI.
That is how being against this works for most. It isn’t that hard to grasp.
You have to remember though, the pro-Palestinian crowd doesn’t care about the rhetoric the parties deliver to the domestic American audience. Obviously the Democrats repeatedly claiming their working towards a peaceful resolution while not actually doing so, rather than Trump just coming out and taking the mask off matters a hell of a lot more than the actual damage and death happening in Gaza, but good luck convincing the loony pro-Palestinians of that.
Plenty of people have been warning other people for years that Trump would do this sort of shit.
Frankly, he is just saying the quiet part out loud.
Or, do you think Israel ever didn’t intend to do genocide?
Oh no, of course not. Fucking Zionists.
What I meant was that it should be a surprise to no one that Trump says these things. He’s been letting the world know who he is for a long time. You’re right, no more dog whistles, but not exactly a surprise either.
It isn’t a surprise, no one’s surprised.
