Reminds me of the time Indiana tried to redefine pi.
assess what type of DEI programs are still discriminating against Americans
The official said it was “very fitting” that the order was announced on Martin Luther King Jr. Day because “this is order is meant to return to the promise and the hope, captured by civil rights champions, that one day all Americans can be treated on the basis of their character, not by the color of their skin.”
I don’t think I can handle four more years of this brain bending insanity. I’ve tried to understand where people are coming from. I’ve been of the belief that most of us are good people and want the same things. But trying to unpack the thoughts and whims of POTUS on a daily basis is just going to break my brain. I work at a computer all day so I’m not sure how I’m going to prevent myself from encountering this circus. I’m weighing the choice of living in blissful ignorance or in utter despair.
For over eight yers, my heart has hurt because of the sheer stupidity and ignorance taking control of this country. I am not seeing any signs of improvement. On the contrary, it seems very apparent that it’s getting worse.
Let these next 4 years radicalize you.
It’s not even radical anymore. It’s more radical to just let them keep raping and pillaging our society. It’s a clear class war and we better wake the fuck up before it’s over.
It’s over.
If they aren’t radicalized at this point, I fear there is no hope.
I wonder what their approach to intersex people will be…
If anyone is curious what other fascist regimes did: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex_rights_in_Germany
Please, anyone who reads this, stop posting links to the mobile version of Wikipedia. It doesn’t switch automatically on PC, and I see it happen all the time. Just take the half a second to remove the “.m” from the beginning of the link, save everyone else from the pain of having to be surprised by it and taking the time to do it themselves.
Ignoring the content of the link, and following this passive and erroneous line of discussion: I did it on a phone, not on a PC where you on the PC can more easily change it. Not going to be scolded because I strictly didn’t follow your arbitrary rules.
I only complain because I see it happen a lot, and because Wikipedia automatically corrects links for mobile users but not desktop ones. It’s not intended to be scolding, just a request for you to be more aware of such things.
Then request Wikipedia change their web design for bifurcating mobile users into a subdomain. The CSS is detecting the browser implementation anyways, so do it all on the backend in one single domain.
For real, I’m not going to make your problem my problem, this is a wikipedia issue, you’re in the wrong channels.
You can’t edit text on your phone? How are you posting these comments?
Im going to guess somewhere between firing them, and firing at them.
Well, Trump says there are only two biological genders, but he said nothing about what percentage of each a person is allowed to have.
whats next, an executive order stating black people are only 3/5th of a white person? c02 isnt rising in volume in the atmosphere? that he isnt a literal hitler wannabe?
The CO2 one isn’t far off and may actually be in that first 200 orders.
You’re making jokes, but yes. This is a man that drew on a map with a sharpie to change the course of a hurricane. There’s nothing stopping him from blatantly lying about the reality that is right in front of our faces.
We have always been at war with Eastasia
East Asia has always been our Ally, we have always been at war with Eurasia. Report yourself to the min truth for unthought processing.
Things are double plus good!
What about hermaphrodites? Do they just pick their favorite?
No, “traditionally” it’s picked for them right after birth.
Any surplus parts are cut off, problem solved.The term is “intersex” (which covers a broad range of sex variation including “true hermaphroditism” though the term hermaphrodite is considered offensive when applied to a human). Typically intersex people are assigned either male or female at birth. If they are born with ambiguous genitalia, they are given surgery as infants to make them match their assigned sex (which has many negative side effects such as scarring, sterility, pain during urination/sex, and gender dysphoria). They may also be forced onto hormones to make them go through the “correct” puberty. Conservatives are generally in support of this practice, and laws that have been passed against trans healthcare have contained exceptions to allow for nonconsensual procedures on intersex children
They’d have to shoot me before I will ever deny my own womanhood. Not even with a gun to my head would I call myself a man. I lived in a closet for 18 years and it nearly killed me. It damaged me in ways I have to live with forever. I am a woman. They can say whatever the fuck they want it won’t change that. I will not bow my head. If it comes to it, I’ll die with my back straight, proud of who I am.
If you’re a woman then this doesn’t affect you.
I think it only affects nonbinary folks.
Edit: why was I downvoted for this?
Because it very clearly does affect trans women? So either you’re not paying attention or you’re denying trans women their womanhood. Either way, downvote.
How? Trans women are women.
If you missed it in the article:
The order… directs the State Department… to “ensure that official government documents, including passports and visas, reflect sex accurately,” one of the officials said.
That’s fucking terrible and possibly detrimental for the mental health of trans people.
I’m confused. Does a passport list your sex or your gender?
The article quote I linked says sex. If a person is pre-op or not choosing surgery, they will forced to have the wrong gender on their docs.
I’m in Canada, your docs say what you identify as under “sex”.
If you have a passport or drivers license that says “M” and you are in a dress and full face of makeup, are you physically safe?
I have a drivers license that says “M” and have a beard. This EO (and state law) say that it should have an “F.” When I was a broke college student, and it did say “F” but I had a beard, I could barely find work scrubbing shit off bleachers with face tattooed ex cons. I had to do sex work. If I get to that point again I will just kill myself. And I did just lose my job lol.
Background checks still occasionally fuck me - I had a job let me work there for a week and then they tried not to pay me because the background check revealed I was trans. I spent months fighting for money, because I was ducking desperate, because I was going through a divorce where I was getting fucked for being a crazy tranny there too.
Documentation fucking matters. This is how they are trying to kill us.
I now have to live in fear of the Government randomly declaring me a man.
Why? You’re a woman.
I know I am, but the Government may not see it that way.
Glad you’re here. As a fellow LGBTQ+ card carrying member, we are going to keep fighting even harder. Let this presidency radicalize you.
Proud of you, but seriously, be careful? Emigrate to a country where people are treated like humans, perhaps? You might even be able to request asylum.
Just don’t get yourself killed because some psycho said something stupid
Don’t worry. We got your back.
Thank you. Truly.
Be strong. This harassment is a smokescreen to hide their own weaknesses. 2026 is our chance to reset Congress and mitigate the damage until that asshat leaves. Maybe we’ll even get lucky and he’ll croak early.
You have a lot of allies who feel similarly about being forced to be cruel to people we love and care about. Let’s live through these terrible times with our humanity intact.
You and me! I’m also gay and there’s no way they’ll ever step over me like that. We’ve suffered way too much collectively to lie down at their feet. It’s time to fight back–again!
Same sister, I’ll happily die a woman if the alternative is living as a man. Gender affirming care is the reason I didn’t have to make that choice, and I may have to decide again…
Oh well the government said so it must be true
Even ignoring socially constructed gender identities, in the case of biological sexes, this is scientifically wrong. The world doesn’t fit into neat little boxes like these people think it does
His next trick will be to define pi as 3
In order to reduce the cost of space launches, executive order gravity to be smaller.
Just putting this here if anyone is interested in someone actually trying to have done something similar.
I mean if he plans to kill all intersex people then there will be two sexes.
Fascists think they can force the world into their boxes through violence and cruelty. We must never stop resisting.
Just like humans are born with 10 fingers, Biologically there are only two genders.
Yes there are VERY rare exceptions, but we shouldn’t be building PS5 controllers to cater for people with 12 or 3 fingers.
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/accessories/access-controller/
edit: on a more serious note, yes, when studying the biology of humans or similar organisms probably 99% of the time you can pretend there are only two genders/sexes, but
- that doesn’t make it true
- even just 1.7% of the U.S. population is still a pretty big number (~580k people)
Science is a joke to you huh
It’s not a gospel and yeah it’s sometimes funny. But mainly it’s an elegantly regimented way to explore the world around us
these fascist dipshits are everything they claim to hate. we are expected to just accept “their truth” when all of the evidence suggests otherwise, so pathetic.
I’ve always said, religious people and puritans of all stripes seem way too concerned by other people’s genitals. Just like perverts.
They are literal perverts!
Hey dont do us perverts dirty like that, most of us know what no means.
Not just religious, but fascists too.
It’s weird
So why exactly are we focusing on LGBTQ+ peoples here? Obviously they are equally deserving of protections just like everyone else, but This appears to read like we’re getting rid of DEI hiring practices entirely. Seems like something that would affect all protected groups. And arguably, racial minorities are a much larger group of people that are going to be hurt by this. Focusing on the gender binary thing really feels like distraction from the wider implications this has.
And the companies immediately coming out saying they’re ending their DEI practices before Trump was even in office really shows you how performative their adherance to the law really was. It really perfectly demonstates why we need these laws in the first place when companies are this eager to be openly against anti-discrimination.
Reading the orders, the gender one is much more impactful.
Canceling DEI programs cancels those programs, which just isn’t that impactful. Maybe it slows or reverse progress on equality at the population level. But an individual is not going to notice a difference (unless they were explicitly working in administering it). Further, those DEI programs were only for federal agencies, which are going to have a much bigger culture shift from the coming idealougical and loyalty purge. Minorities are still protected by strong anti discrimination laws and the 14th amendment.
The anti trans order, in contrast, declares that trans people don’t exist. And the entirety of the federal government must act accordingly. This will have a direct effect on every openly trans person in the country. Further, the legal protections trans people have are based entirely on an interpretation of gender discrimination laws that the current Supreme Court seems unlikely to endorse; and which Trump has directed the Attorney General to not follow.
That came out last week I think? Checking…
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgmy7xpw3pyo
Meta and some other cunts removed DEI practices on Jan 10 and Costco said fuck that and kept it.
Of course all of it deserve our attention, but that is why the focus of the comments here is on the gender portion of the EO.
How does this help men and women? I know how it hurts people, but who is HELPED by this?
Owning the libs is his raison de terre.
if it makes amorphous enemies mad, then its worth it.
Reason of earth? I think it’s “Rasion d’etre”
thanks. lol. I thought something was wrong with it but was too busy to check
Lol you think their goal is helping people?
No, not at all, but typically politicians frame it that way. They gave up on that, I guess. Now it’s just who can I hurt.
There’s loads of historical examples of policies in acted to hurt people
…because those people are “inferior” people
I have a joke about this:
Someone once asked a Republican what he thought about a shooting in a Queer bar, he responded “thats horrible, I hear a Muslim did it. Those dirty savages will never integrate with western values”.
So the person responded “oh so do you care about queer people now?”, he responded “of course not, they harm womens rights”.
So the person responded “oh so do you support womens rights now?”, he responded “of course not, I think the rights of children should take precedence”.
So he responded “oh so do you care about the children now?”, he responded “of course not, they’re leaches on society. I only support hardworking Americans”.
So he responded “Oh so do you support workers rights now?”, he responded “of course not, workers today are lazy, I support only the good religious Jewish and Christian workers”
So he responded “Oh so do you support Jewish people now?”, he responded “Of course not, I hear they’re extremely Islamaphobic”
So he responded “Oh so do you support Muslim people now?”, he responded “of course not, I hear one of them shot up a queer bar”
Oh sweet summer child. Help is NOT on the way.
Fascists.
How? How does it help them?
Fascists need an “other” to demonize. They delight in the cruelty towards the “other”. The executive order gives them a sense of accomplishment, further strengthening the group bonds as they enjoy the suffering of the “other” together.
It really is as simple as “the cruelty is the point”. It helps them because they desire to inflict cruelty, and this gives them a method for doing so.
I don’t think he delights in anything but having people tell him how great he is. This is textbook fascism. You got the part right thay they need an other group to demonize, just don’t think there is even that much depth to them.
Oh I should have been more clear: Trump’s supporters delight in cruelty towards others. You’re right that Trump just does whatever makes his supporters cheer for him; he’s a textbook narcissist who craves attention. “Build the wall” for example, was a talking point his advisers gave him. He apparently thought it was stupid, but when his crowds of supporters cheered for it he went on to make it central to his campaign and identity.
And the lesson the rank-and-file never seem to learn is once the other is eliminated, the fascists always turn inward, and begin eliminating each other. Unfortunately, their death toll is always quite high once they implode – sometimes in the millions.
It’s a death cult, though, and no matter how white or pious or privileged you think you are, they will come for you once they run out of ‘proper’ enemies, because without an enemy, fascism is nothing.
It gives justification for discrimination. To make people who disagree or are affected less than human and thus atrocities against them do not count as atrocities.
No different than colonization or slavery. “We know better and will show them the error of their ways/put them in their place by force and systematic discrimination”.
Denying science and memory holing it is actually massively beneficial for them.
Because it is a clear demonstration of “We can do whatever the fuck we want, and you can’t stop us,” as well as a warning: “Don’t piss us off, or we’re going to do it to you next.”
Edit: Also a message to other fascists: “You can do whatever you want, and they can’t stop you.”
Even setting aside people’s gender identity, 1.7% of the population is intersex. A law can’t make that untrue.
not sure how to tell you this, but they can absolutely uhm… change that number
I mean it’s not like they have any literal Nazis in the…
Awfully reminiscent of the trouble the NASDAP had trying to draw the line between Jews and non-Jews. It made them look like fucking idiots, and I hope to hell history treats the GOP the same way.
The Republicans have looked like fucking idiots for as long as I can remember (and that’s pretty long, you pesky kids) but that has never stopped them.
The law doesn’t need to reflect reality though.
Pretty sure this is the year I’ll finally lose my mind. Last night was absolute chaos trying to keep up with the EOs… I am tired. While these get caught up in courts and fought against, they’re going to happen regardless in the interim. So many people are going to be impacted, negatively. The rage…
Reminds me of some state laws that have been voted for, and sometimes even enacted, that defined PI as three (or worse, even 4). Just because an uneducated jokel in the White House signed a piece of paper, scientific reality won’t just bend to his wishes.
What’s next? Will he declare Ohms law illegal? Forbid gravity?
As an electrical eng student you had me at Ohm’s law.
2+2=5
Calm down, ChatGPT
