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Masturbation abstinence is popular online. Doctors and therapists are worried::undefined
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I think we have worse problems in the world. :)
Yeah luckily climate change and the wars at Ukraine and Gaza are such a big problems that everyone just stopped worrying about the mundane little things that actually have an effect on their daily lives.
I don’t think masturbation itself is the issue and perhaps not porn either but I think there’s still a kernel of truth to this. There are some people like me to whom it really is an issue. The way my brain works is that 1 hour of masturbation is twice as good as 30 minutes and then obviously 2 hours is twice as good as 1 hour and then it’s 4am and I must force myself to stop or I’m not sleeping at all. It’s a button I can press that makes me feel good and unless you take it away from me I’m not going to stop pressing it. Masturbation alone isn’t exciting enough for it to get out of hand like this but when you combine it with porn then some people simply get sucked in and it’s really really difficult to get out.
I’ve heard interesting theories about how in the past frustrated men like me would take out to the streets and express their frustration by breaking windows and kicking grannies but despite the record numbers of “us” now we’re still not seeing this in the world. Atleast not to the scale you’d expect. Where are those men? Well in their mothers basements playing games, smoking weed and jerking off to porn. It’s not what we wanted but it’s “fine” - could be worse.
How can you just keep going? Do you not come or do you not have a refractory period? Don’t you get tired during the refractory period? Are you perhaps suffering from some other mental problems that won’t allow you to sleep? Are you napping allot during the day? Do you sleep for a long time in the mornings? No set alarm to get up, shifting your hours forward?
Edging. I just wont push myself over the point of no return untill I choose to.
I feel like the real difference is that, in the past, prostitution was a bit more common, so men could just get their kicks with a woman rather then with their hand.
Prostitution is not free. Even if it was more widely available it still wouldn’t be much of a help for unemployed men. Also why bother when porn and masturbation is free and enough to take the edge off? People are willingly opting out of the dating market aswell because it’s just not worth the trouble when the alternative doesn’t even require you to leave your home.
Prostitution exists at all price points.
If you’re getting laid for 20 bucks you’re most likely taking advantage of someone in a desperate situation
The same can be said for the prostitute no?
If your client can only afford 20$ worth of service, shouldn’t he be spending it elsewhere that’s more important? I guess more realistically “twitch thots”/onlyfans and desperate people giving them their waaay too much money.
Masturbation alone isn’t exciting enough for it to get out of hand
No, indeed it’s not…
I am not sufficiently qualified to comment on this particular sociocultural trends nor can I give medical recommendations. However, some may want to inform themselves by evaluating the current status of relevant research. A number of studies have found that greater ejaculation frequency is associated with a reduced risk of prostate cancer.
One such research in question :
For old people yeah, but for young people it increases the risk for prostate cancer. One group does it too little, the other does it too much.
You may want to add a source or 2 to your reply, you know, same as the person you replied to did. Otherwise, people may draw the conclusion that you’re not a valuable source yourself.
The difference is very small, and the line for 0-3 ejaculations per month being at the middle instead of the bottom is kinda sus
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5040619/
Also, based on the “Results and limitations” summary, the increased prostate cancer risk might also be from high body mass index, sexually transmitted infections, and/or alcohol consumption
It gives me super powers.
/s
Instead of equipping a superhero cape, you just ask your hand the question: @willya@lemmyf.uk?
When you hit 12 months, instead of getting an erection, I just grow a cape out the back of my neck.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
But many researchers and sex therapists worry that the online communities that have formed in response to these fears often endorse inaccurate medical information, exacerbate mental health problems and, in some cases, overlap with extremist and hate groups.
While he was neither a medical doctor nor a Ph.D. scientist (he was an adjunct biology instructor at Southern Oregon University for a combined four months in 2005 and 2010), he had given a viral TEDx talk arguing that internet porn is a hazard for men’s brains.
NoFap’s message today is strongly aligned with Wilson’s arguments that watching porn is addictive, causes conditions such as erectile dysfunction and brain fog, and can even involuntarily change one’s sexual desires.
Within a few years, major media outlets were running profiles of Rhodes and his touted approach to pornography addiction, including The New York Times, CNN, the BBC and NPR’s Here & Now, co-produced with Boston member station WBUR.
Those who agreed to be quoted all asked NPR not to use their last names in order for them to discuss their intimate sexual histories without fear of negative reactions from families and colleagues or backlash from supporters of masturbation abstinence.
Interviews with researchers, court documents and other reporting paint a picture of an established tendency of some supporters of masturbation abstinence to harass critics by calling employers or targeting them with misogynist or antisemitic slurs, and even violent threats.
The original article contains 3,737 words, the summary contains 234 words. Saved 94%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!
I know it’s a long article guys, but it worth your time. This summary is a mess and completely removes crucial details, including all the quotes the summary alludes to. If you’ve got 30 minutes and are genuinely interested give it a read or a listen.
Masturbation abstinence as a meme is popular online, but I doubt actual abstinence is.
Browse something like r/nofap. If that is a joke, a lot of those commentators have a Leslie Nielsen level straight face.
r/NoFap is unironically just a bunch of undiagnosed ADHDs realizing what happens when you stop relying on constantly flooding your brain with dopamine as a default
Nofap is honestly reaching cult like status.
It’s especially ironic when it’s been proven that regular (not excessive) levels of masturbation is actually good for your prostate and similar.
NoFap was reaching cult territory five years ago when I found it. Its insane side is already ingrained in their identity and probably has been since its inception.
I’m pretty sure that was a group that started as a support forum for porn addicts, but it looks like it has been taken over by some real fanatics. Perhaps religious people? The core message still seems to be about porn addiction, but full abstinence is a harmful path it is sidetracking to, which is why I suspect there is some kind of hidden religious agenda by the mods.
I know someone who religiously follows it, because he constantly discloses when he’s doing it (all the time). It’s very real
It might have started off that way, but it could easily go out of control and become a genuine movement.
Flat Earth originally started as a joke arguing for something silly and easily disproven, and look at how that’s gone.
As I understand flat earth is a religious thing.
So you still think you live on a magic twirling space ball or what?
pretty sure the benefits people feel are simply from a) being hornier and b) positive self-reinforcement for setting a goal and sticking to it
if we weren’t meant to jerk off why does it feel good
if we weren’t meant to jerk off why does it feel good
Because it’s an analog to the thing that it is meant to feel like - sex.
Sex being the method of reproduction, if we didn’t enjoy it as a species, we wouldn’t be here today.
Sex being the method of reproduction, if we didn’t enjoy it as a species, we wouldn’t be here today.
There are species with painful sex mechanisms, so that bit at least is dubious.
There are so many more layers though…exploring your own sexuality on your own can make you more comfortable and confident in your sexuality and in turn make you more likely to successfully reproduce, for one
Yeah, it’s not as complicated as that. You can make some cozy psychology excuse such as that to try and make yourself feel better about it - but it’s really just as simple as it feels like sex, and we have sex drives for reproduction.
Just look at apes, other primates that do it too – they aren’t doing it to be “confident in their sexuality” etc etc. It’s literally just that it feels good.
There’s only 1 instance of masturbation that I know about, that scientists think is an evolutionary advantage – and that’s of rats that masturbate, and they tend to do it after mating; scientists believe that this came about in order to reduce the instance of sexually transmitted diseases by clearing the male rats of foreign material.
You seem super confident in a simplistic view of an obviously complex topic. Cite some sources please
Anecdotally everyone has an anecdote about this topic because it concerns a basic function of the human body. It’s too bad that so many people believe it’s a moral character problem making the topic nearly impossible to talk about openly.
Was this article sponsored by OnlyFans?
IMO, NoFap seems like a predictable reaction from people with enough self-awareness to know they’re addicted to porn and that it has negative consequences.
Did you read the article
A 30m “No Fap” NPR piece was definitely not on my 2024 bingo card.
“That’s the most beta thing you can do. That’s the weakest thing any man can do,” he says.
Ah, it’s the same idiots that follow andrew tate and the like.
Derrick tried the 90-day masturbation abstinence reboots but says he could never make it that long, which made him feel awful.
That’s addiction
-Stop eating for a week -I can’t, it feels awful! -You have an addiction
No it’s not.
I have a similar addiction to dihydrogen monoxide.
The need is ejaculation, not masturbation, and stopping masturbation does not prevent ejaculation (there’s nocturnal emission)
We apes are not ready for the internet
28 min piece. How many of these comments are actually from people who listened or read it. 5%?
I believe that a lot of issues lile this would be solved with legalized sex work and the destigmaization of mental health treatments.
