Look at what’s going on with prison labor. It’s already happening.
Not when Trump wins.
There are lots of legal slaves in the US. They’re just in prisons so out of sight, out of mind. It’s constitutionally legal.
When the government ran most prisons many would pay them a couple of dollars an hour or something to make it seem more like work. Now many for profit prisons either pay pennies an hour or nothing at all, and many require you to work either directly or by making the meals low in nutrition or completely inedible so they have to buy their real food. And this isn’t like working by cleaning or laundry or whatever, this is making products that the prisons sell. Much of the stuff labeled “Made in America” is made by slaves.
There are also lots of illegal slaves hidden away. Mostly immigrants who couldn’t afford the thousands of dollars to apply for legal status before their visas ran out or who were carried across the border as babies and had to hide it their whole lives or other similar circumstances.
Byt there already is slavery in US. look into unpaid prison labor
Yes? What kind of stupid question is this? I’d take to the streets.
Then take to the streets. Slavery is legal in prisons.
I have been. What have you been doing about it?
As others have pointed out, slavery is still used as a punishment for prisoners in most states. The south in particular used/uses it to maintain slavery of african americans through selective enforcement of laws. Human trafficing is still a thing in the US even if it isn’t legal. And the way our economy works can be likened to a form of wage slavery where people often dont have a choice but to work for a specific employer. Especially if they’re undocumented. Apple was caught using the H1B visa program as a means of keeping immigrant employees effectively trapped there. The justice department fined them 25 million dollars. A slap on the wrist for exploiting vulnerable people.
Now that you ask…
Instead of giving people free food and housing in prisons, I imagine mandatory work sentences for minor offences. Littering? 1 year of mandatory work. Why it’s black people disproportionately getting work time? I don’t know… must be in their genes or something.
Also, gosh, there sure are a lot of repeat offenders in there. What a coincidence. It’s almost like prisons do the opposite of reforming the people that are sucked into the system, or like once you’ve got a criminal record there’s a lot fewer non-crime options for you once you’re back out on the street.
The problem with mandatory work is that someone will benefit from that work and so it’ll be in their interest that more people be condemned to it. It would need to be organized in a way that companies didn’t profit directly from increased convictions.
someone will benefit from that work
That’s the whole point…?
I’m guessing it was less of a suggestion and more of a guess as to “What’s the most probable way that slavery sneaks back into society.”
And I agree with them. Jails are already overloaded and private companies are making bank on it. I could see them offering mandatory unpaid work in lieu of jail time. Of course where you have to work would be determined by which company has the highest bid.
Not for a second. You guys elected a ridiculously stupid fascist as your president. You’d do anything
Yes?
There are slaves, just low numbers because it’s illegal. There’s also a lot of working arrangements with illegal immigrants that look very similar in a bad light.
In fairness most western countries have a low level of slavery - they found some forced labour on a farm in Australia a few years back for example.
If you’re asking if any US state wants to legalise slavery, it’s extremely unpopular everywhere, except in a few niche pointy white hat communities.
Slavery is legal in US prisons.
Sure is and good luck changing the constitution
I know people talk about prisoners and wage slaves, but the United States is also participating in, and profiting from, child slavery as well; it just doesn’t happen in the states. Just take a look at where your chocolate comes from, if it’s Hershey, Mars, or Nestle, it was probably harvested by someone under 15 who has never even tasted chocolate. And the US is just… cool with it.
https://foodispower.org/human-labor-slavery/slavery-chocolate/
That’s why it gets brought up all the time and why we have companies that sell chocolate that didn’t exploit child labor. Because we’re all just cool with it.
Yeah and those companies are doing SO much better than Nestle, right??? Fucking moron, the US ON AVERAGE is cool with it, but sure, jump on my one generalization and try to minimize the actual issue.
Of course they’re not doing better than nestle lmao. That doesn’t mean we’re not trying. Insulting me like a petulent toddler doesn’t help your argument in any way. Jesus christ. What a fucking baby. Go back to reddit please. Or maybe Facebook is more your style with that tantrum.
If you wanted a conversation you wouldn’t have been sarcastic in the first place, and you wouldn’t have taken the bait so easily. I have no time for morons.
I’m sorry I guess I didn’t realize that sarcasm would make you too upset to have a civil conversation. That’s my bad. I forget how sensitive some of you are
Yes. Would require a Constitutional amendment, those are really hard to get through.
Prisoners are the slaves… Slavery has never stopped in the USA just changed form
We never got rid of slavery in the US. We merely shifted cost of ownership. Quite successfully. The laws have been advanced and tweaked to make everyone a potential criminal, especially if a minority. Prison labor is absolutely legal. The prison system is mostly privatized and for-profit. Healthcare is tied to employment, with dental care (a foundational element of good health) often being an add-on to employer-provided health insurance.
Stop the country, I want to get off.
Refs:
- Hacking of the American Mind by Robert Lustig
- New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander
- Evil Geniuses by Kurt Andersen
I would be shocked, appalled, but not surprised. At this point the only thing that would surprise me about the US is if they actually somehow do something that fixes their backwards country.
I thought shocked and surprised were synonyms.
As others have pointed out, there is still slavery in America. Wage slavery is slavery. Tying healthcare access to employment doesn’t help.
