A new survey suggests that Apple Intelligence matters to iPhone buyers, but the majority say that the initial features add...
  • alexc@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Genmoji is a waste of space. The image generation is really bad (but then again, most of these platforms are). The writing tools are mediocre. About all that is moderately useful is that Siri seems a little better and processing commands.

    If they want to start charging for this, I’m out.

    • TheRealKuni@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      10 months ago

      If they want to start charging for this, I’m out.

      I’m not sure why they would charge for it, most of it happens on-device.

      • alexc@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        10 months ago

        True, but the RnD ain’t cheap. And, if everyone else starts charging (as I am sure they eventually will), Apple will follow.

  • MrPibb@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Is it worth the hype that Apple and cell carriers are throwing at it? Not really, but do I, as a user, enjoy a lot of the new features? For sure.
    Double tap to type to Siri is great, and access to ChatGPT for answers Siri doesn’t know is much better than, “I couldn’t find the answer. Would you like me to search the internet?” And as a person with slight dyslexia and ADHD, Proofread is a fucking god send.

    • astrsk@fedia.io
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      10 months ago

      My only gripe is the lack of ChatGPT and search internet for answer options. I want to use both in various situations when Siri doesn’t get the answer directly.

  • BertramDitore@lemm.eeEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Yup. Photo cleanup was cool to try once, but I’ll never use it again. Removing stuff from photos with a single tap also bugs me a bit in general, I’m not sure it’s something we should make so easy. Message summaries are absolute shit and have already caused confusion for me. I’m not even talking about the proper notification summaries, just the auto-summaries in the preview lines of the whole iMessage list. A number of them have really fucked with me. For example, a friend asked me to FaceTime her in a few days, and the summary just said “FaceTime request.” And I was like “shit, did I miss a call?” As far as I can tell I can’t turn that off without disabling the entire AI setting.

    I’m also not sure how to feel about all of Apple’s privacy talk when it comes to their AI features. They say certain features will stay on device, which is great, but for everything else, as far as I’ve noticed there is no mention of what goes to OpenAI’s servers, since their AI is still primarily powered by OpenAI. There’s actually no mention of OpenAI in any of the disclaimers or warnings I read when I first enabled it.

    • Zeroc00l@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      10 months ago

      You can turn off (specifically) Message summaries in settings > Apps > messages > Summarize Messages

          • brbposting@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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            10 months ago

            At least the Settings search and Siri integration are true power houses that help us overcome the app’s challenges

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            lol but wtf

          • BertramDitore@lemm.eeEnglish
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            10 months ago

            Omg I really thought I was the only one. I can never find the setting I want. I think it’s one of those examples where Apple oversimplified to the point of confusion.

    • sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.todayEnglish
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      10 months ago

      There’s no way OpenAI is letting Apple use them for free. So where is the money coming from? AI is the hot new thing and expensive to operate so I imagine Apple is paying quite a lot. There needs to be a new form of income or this wouldn’t make sense from a business perspective. I image there is data harvesting from the AI service.

      • narc0tic_bird@lemm.eeEnglish
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        10 months ago

        I’d actually be surprised if Apple pays anything to OpenAI at the moment. Obviously running some Siri requests through ChatGPT (after the user confirms that’s what they want to do) is quite expensive for OpenAI, but Apple Intelligence doesn’t touch OpenAI servers at all (just Siri has ChatGPT integration).

        Even then, there’ll obviously still be a lot of requests, but the problem OpenAI has is that they aren’t really in a negotiating position. Google owns Android and so most phones default to Gemini, instantly giving them a huge advantage in marketshare. OpenAI doesn’t have its own platform, so Apple having the second largest install base of all smartphone operating systems is OpenAI’s best chance.

        Apple might benefit from OpenAI but OpenAI needs Apple way more than the other way around. Apple Intelligence runs perfectly fine (I mean, as “perfectly fine” as it currently does) without OpenAI, the only functionality users would lose is the option to redirect “complex” Siri requests to ChatGPT.

        In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if OpenAI actually pays Apple for the integration, just like Google pays Apple a hefty sum to be the default search engine for Safari.

        • BertramDitore@lemm.eeEnglish
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          10 months ago

          Yeah, you nailed it. The latest reporting on this says that Apple isn’t paying them yet, because they think OpenAI will get more benefit out of just having their product in everyone’s faces:

          Apple isn’t paying OpenAI as part of the partnership, said the people, who asked not to be identified because the deal terms are private. Instead, Apple believes pushing OpenAI’s brand and technology to hundreds of millions of its devices is of equal or greater value than monetary payments, these people said. Source.

    • narc0tic_bird@lemm.eeEnglish
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      10 months ago

      Apple Intelligence isn’t “powered by OpenAI” at all. It’s not even based on it.

      The only time OpenAI servers are contacted is when you ask Siri something it can’t compute with Apple Intelligence, but even then it clearly asks the user first if they want to send the request to ChatGPT.

      Everything else regarding Apple Intelligence runs either on-device or on their “Private Cloud Compute” infrastructure, which apparently uses M2 Ultra chips. You then have to trust Apple that their claims regarding privacy are true, but you kind of do that when choosing an iPhone in the first place. There’s some pretty interesting tech behind this actually.

      • BertramDitore@lemm.eeEnglish
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        10 months ago

        I appreciate the clarification! I definitely misinterpreted the reporting about this, and clearly didn’t dig deeply enough. This makes me feel a bit better about using the non-ChatGPT features.

  • NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.comEnglish
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    10 months ago

    I really don’t get the advantage. It just feels like Siri with less.

    My ex’s last name was pronounced worse after the upgrade too. It used to enunciate the T in the last name and then after spoke it like there was no T. Always bothered me when I would ask Siri to make a call to her.

    It looks pretty? But beyond that, I’m not feeling any advantages like what ChatGPT or Copilot have.

    • IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      10 months ago

      I’m not feeling any advantages like what ChatGPT or Copilot have.

      Unless you explicitly tell it to use ChatGPT, everything is done on device. That’s an advantage for me.

      • NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.comEnglish
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        10 months ago

        Oh really? I didn’t know that was a thing.

        So you tell Siri “Use ChatGPT” and then it switches over?

        I had asked Siri what it could do after the update and didn’t get much information on what new features there were or how to access them.

  • phoneymouse@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    10 months ago

    I gotta be honest, the push notification summaries are more annoying than they are useful. Like. I’m going to read a text blurb of 100 or so characters. It’s an extra step to see the summary and then the actual message itself.

    • MonkderVierte@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      10 months ago

      CEOs have no taste clue

      Techbro CEOs are especially susceptible to the hypetrain and then want it implemented somehow, despite the hype not living up to the imaginary magic bullet they got from their superficial info.

  • Darc@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    10 months ago

    I appreciate the summaries on my notifications. Some of my people text a book every time.

  • garretble@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    10 months ago

    For me the best new feature on macOS is the ability to natively put the temperature in the menu bar. You click on it, and it gives you some more info and from there can launch the full weather app.

    It’s a small addition and could have been there for a decade, but I like it a lot.

    • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      10 months ago

      MacOS didn’t have that before? That’s impressive. Windows has had it for a long time, and KDE obviously does too, and with KDE you can put it anywhere. I can’t understand why people still act like Apple products are premium.

      • reddig33@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        10 months ago

        Yep. Apple was trying to get things OUT of the menu bar for a long time. I dunno why current leadership has changed their tune.

      • tyler@programming.devEnglish
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        10 months ago

        Well you can install a menu bar app if you want. Just like you can with any other system. I don’t ever care about the weather so I want my menubar as clean as possible, so I use bartender to hide almost everything.

  • awesomesauce309@midwest.socialEnglish
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    10 months ago

    They need to let us whitelist 2FA App notifications from summary, so there is no lag time. I have to wait 30 seconds, where it used to be instant. My friend turned it off and his notifications went back to being instant again.

  • neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    10 months ago

    I am interesting in AI stuff, but I do not want it controlled by some company, I’d like to run my own models.

  • Jesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Probably worth noting, this survey was taken before 18.2 went live with a ChatGPT integration, image generation, etc.

    • wisely@feddit.orgEnglish
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      10 months ago

      I have 18.2 and don’t even see how to use the AI features. The only thing I bothered to look up so far was how to use genmoji. But the option still doesn’t display in iMessage so I have no idea. Might as well not exist for all I can tell.

      • Jesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        10 months ago

        Weird. New installs usually get some sort on onboarding screen that explains how to activate the new stuff.

        The 18.2 Chat GPT stuff can be manually enabled under settings > Apple intelligence > scroll way down > Chat GPT. Once enabled, writing tools and Siri will give you the option to send a query to ChatGPT instead of Apple’s model.

        If Siri gets stumped, it will ask if you want to query GPT. Or you can just prompt it to Ask Chat GPT ______.

        Writing tools has it buried under “compose” which is at the very bottom of the writing tools sheet.

    • PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      10 months ago

      Even with integrations, a lot of the automatic replies basically boil down to “yes, thanks” and “no thank you” to every text. It isn’t even like… A longer message. It’s just two or three words, tops. If I’m going to use AI to write my texts, it’s going to be for something longer than a “yes lol” text.

      • Jesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        10 months ago

        Agreed.

        IMHO, the only truly useful thing is writing tools and Siri being able to query ChatGPT for complex questions instead of telling people to pull out their phone and search the web.

        The stuff everyone was actually interested in is likely in 18.4. On-screen awareness, integration with installed apps, contextual replies, etc.