• luce [they/she]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    5 months ago

    It just feels too perfect. Its probably a copycat, could be a faked arrest though. If it is a copycat there is a pretty high chance law enforcement just won’t care, and will treat him as if he was the assassin

  • Furbag@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Fuckin’ snitches.

    No wait, hang on, you’re telling me that this guy managed to get out of New York City after committing one of the most high profile killings ever and instead of laying low and waiting for the news to blow over he got caught in a McDonalds during an active manhunt with a fake I.D., the murder weapon, and a manifesto all on his person? Either he wanted to get caught, or I smell a scapegoat here. Can’t have America’s oldest gang losing face in front of their corporate sponsors, now can we?

    • Today@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      Because you want to see them plant the evidence or because you want to watch him get patted down?

      • dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de
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        Plant what evidence?

        It looks like the guy was caught with the weapon and the fake ids used during his stay in NY.

        Why is there so much talk about a fall guy? They have the guy, he has a manifesto. If the police had the gun and fake ids then they would have got them off the real guy so no need for a fall guy.

        Looking at pictures of Luigi he looks like the dude in the other photos and I’m sure in time he’ll tell us why he did it.

        There is no need for a conspiracy here, and frankly I find it baffling why you would think this is a frame up.

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          It was just a joke about there being a video of a handsone guy getting frisked. I don’t really think they planted evidence.

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          Because sometimes idiots will plant evidence on someone they legitimately believe is guilty, but don’t have the evidence to prove it.

          Like, I don’t think it’s a stretch to say the majority of Americans know someone who has had that happen to them. I know everyone who knows me does, because it happened to me as a kid.

          Sure, I did what the cops thought I did. But the only evidence was what one cop planted, so charges never went anywhere. But if I hadn’t been bailed out, I could have spent 6-12 months in jail waiting for the charges to be dropped.

          This is reality.

          So whether or not this specific one is a plant, you can’t just believe what cops say at face value. Even when they’re trying to “do the right thing” they can be corrupt. Lots of them just think the ends justify the means

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            I too have ben fucked over by the cops when I was younger, but come on. It’s a massive stretch to believe that they just pick some random guy and plant a murder weapon, fake ids and a manifesto.

            Let’s say we buy into that argument. Where did they get the gun? The IDs? And who wrote the manifesto.

            Not to mention the dude (Luigi) looks like the dude we seen in the CCTV images shown the last few days.

            What is the benefit to finding a fall guy? It’s not going to stop someone else who is motivated to do the same to another CEO.

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              It’s a massive stretch to believe that they just pick some random guy and plant a murder weapon, fake ids and a manifesto.

              Not really.

              It’s not “the murder weapon” it’s a basic bitch p80 and a silencer. Maybe it’s the murder weapon, we don’t know yet.

              And a fake ID isn’t great evidence too, it doesn’t have his name, or maybe even his actual picture. It could have been found in the backpack, along with a manifesto.

              Like, I’m not saying it’s a framejob, but you’re acting incredulous that anyone could believe this could be a frame-up. To me it’s less likely he’s just going to a random McDonald’s with all that stuff on him.

              It’s certainly possible, even plausible. That’s different than saying it is, which seems to be the argument you’re trying to have.

              What is the benefit to finding a fall guy? It’s not going to stop someone else who is motivated to do the same to another CEO.

              Because the CEO was under DOJ investigation for insider trading and a civilian suit from shareholders because he didn’t let them know to sell when he did.

              The CEO fucked over the rich, and blaming it on this would be an amazing frame up.

              Because everyone wants the lie to be true.

              Stop acting like real life is boring. Shits been crazy if you haven’t noticed

            • glimse@lemmy.world
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              Regardless of your opinion on the suspect, taking cops at their word is fuckin stupid behavior. I don’t give a shit what kind of evidence they say they have until it’s scrutinized in court. The police lie for a living, it does not matter how high profile this case is.

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              It’s a massive stretch to believe that they just pick some random guy and plant a murder weapon, fake ids and a manifesto.

              It’s nothing they (The Cops) haven’t done before, and it wouldn’t be just any random person, it’ll be whoever looks closest to the images

              Where did they get the gun? The IDs? And who wrote the manifesto.

              They usually take what they need from evidence lockup

              to mention the dude (Luigi) looks like the dude we seen in the CCTV images shown the last few days.

              There’s a million people who “looks like” someone else, nearly every image was missing LARGE portions (but different) of the face

              What is the benefit to finding a fall guy?

              To save face, literally that’s it.

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      He’s an ivy league kid with wealthy parents, he’s not talking to anyone, those people know to immediately lawyer up and keep your mouth shut

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      Certainly. Anyone can.

      Oh I’m sorry, the cameras malfunctioned at the same time the NVR crashed and the redundant backup failed.

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    Catching the suspect came down to “good old-fashioned police work,” New York Mayor Eric Adams said Monday, citing the McDonald’s employee who called in a tip.

    Lol, you mean someone hitting the “easy” button and telling cops where he is? That’s “police work”? Waiting around for someone to do the work for you?

    Edit: I wouldn’t want to be the person collecting the reward for the arrest of this individual.

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    The suspect was at a McDonald’s in Altoona, Pennsylvania and was recognized by an employee who then called local police.

    I’m accusing parallel construction. The released photos have so little detail that there must be a hundred thousand Americans that match their appearance.

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      To be fair, the video of the shooter had the upper half of his face.

      And the guy they arrested has the upper half of his face.

      Although I have the upper half of my face.

      Do you have the upper half of your face? If not we can probably rule you out.

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      Someone did their Snowden reading:

      Parallel construction is a law enforcement process of building a parallel, or separate, evidentiary basis for a criminal investigation in order to limit disclosure as to the origins of an investigation.

      In the US, a particular form is evidence laundering, where one police officer obtains evidence via means that are in violation of the Fourth Amendment

      De facto illegal and shady as hell, but in use when the (feds especially) want to catch someone, typically via warrantless SIGINT mass surveillance. They’ll do the investigation using dragnets and broad searches through metadata and other means that are illegal and inadmissible in court, then an incredibly convenient cop/witness/informant will appear with information that permits an arrest/search under permissible means - under the hole that the suspect has incriminating evidence.

      This is wayyy too convenient to get him, with all the evidence on hand, from a ‘concerned citizen’. We live in a police state, that serves the ruling and moneyed class.

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    Upon further investigation, officers recovered a firearm on the man, as well as a suppressor, both consistent with the weapon used in the murder.

    Ummm… That’s awfully convenient. He just happened to have brought that exact gun with its suppressor to McDonald’s. I’m skeptical.

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    5 months ago

    Listen, it says a lot that someone must have recognised him from circumstance and eyebrows. They did not squeal.

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    I am normally the first to decry dipshit conspiracy theories. However does anyone else find it interesting that they quickly arrested someone who looks not the same but similar to the released photos, with an untraceable 3d printed gun? That gun gives them the lack of need to prove where it came from and a vague air of suspiciousness. Oooh he wrote a suggestive book review. Case close boys?