• Etterra@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Correction: random person who vaguely resembles images of a person in a similar jacket in unrelated images of alleged shooter selected as a sacrificial lamb by the incarceration industrial complex out of fear of the populace.

    FTFY

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    We can’t let the media take the narrative back and let them do a smear campaign on this person who might not even be the shooter. He’s a suspect.

    This ceo shooting broke the proverbial spell where what the population was actually saying wasnt being being guided or swayed by the news.

    We need to keep the steam up on the media pushback. All those savage, snarky comments left on every news article, fb post, tweet… they got overwhelmed by us. That needs to keep happening so they can’t go back to distracting and brainwashing people with fear and politics while they scapegoat this guy and try to make an example of him to the rest of us plebs.

    They already tried to distract us with aliens and Diddy because people won’t stop saying how much they hate insurance companies. Keep voicing your discontent where ever they leave an open comment box. Please do it. Not only is it cathartic, but it upsets the oligarchs and everytime you upset an oligarch someone’s insurance is less likely to deny their claim.

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    2 days ago the “experts” were telling us how the shooters planning and brains were why he got out of the city so easily. now we’re being told that he just happened to have the gun, silencer, fake id, and manifesto all on his person? not a chance, feel bad for this guy who’s obviously a scapegoat and just the first similar looking dude they found

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    A bunch of rich people were scared. Now we are about to see a bunch of theater to make them all feel safe and good about treating the peasants poorly. Mark my words.

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    there’s no way this is the guy. if he gets convicted it’ll be because cops and DAs want the case closed at all costs because it’s so high profile.

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    Listen, it says a lot that someone must have recognised him from circumstance and eyebrows. They did not squeal.

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    Honestly he was so smart to be able to get away basically undetected. After I reflected on it for a bit, there’s no way he would unintentionally be presenting the same fake ID, manifesto and carrying all the stuff he had. It seems deliberate.

    Luigi will be remembered as the one who took on American Healthcare and actually did something about it, even if the full weight of billionaire-owned media and the full force of the law is going to be dumped on him.

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      I still don’t get this play here…

      Why have all that shit on him.

      Just go back and act like nothing happened.

      I guess time will tell.

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        I can’t say for sure whether it is the right decision.

        Martin Luther King Jr. advocated for obeying just laws and disobeying unjust laws openly. This could be in the same vein.

        https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/mlk-disobeyed-unjust-laws-state-america-today-requires-we-not-ncna1287569

        Of course it could be in vain but I don’t know. For sure I would have liked him to get away undetected. But probably knowing that he would eventually be caught regardless, to do it on his terms while he has a broad swath of support might have been his decision. He already humiliated the police from being able to catch him long enough.

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          Martin only won because the alternative to his vision wasn’t the status quo, it was Malcolm…

          And they still both got killed for it.

          But mercing a CEO in broad daylight ain’t a MLK move, that’s 100% a Malcolm maneuver.

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            Absolutely, I’m not saying Luigi is MLK Jr. even remotely, I’m just saying that what he thinks is the right thing to do at the moment could be in line with some thinking like that, even if the original action is motivated by something else.

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              Actually, it seems like he views himself as a MLK…

              From Mangione’s review of Ted Kaczinski’s book:

              Clearly written by a mathematics prodigy. Reads like a series of lemmas on the question of 21st century quality of life.

              It’s easy to quickly and thoughtless write this off as the manifesto of a lunatic, in order to avoid facing some of the uncomfortable problems it identifies. But it’s simply impossible to ignore how prescient many of his predictions about modern society turned out.

              He was a violent individual – rightfully imprisoned – who maimed innocent people. While these actions tend to be characterized as those of a crazy luddite, however, they are more accurately seen as those of an extreme political revolutionary.

              https://gizmodo.com/computer-programmer-named-person-of-interest-in-killing-of-unitedhealthcare-ceo-2000536144

              It’s just his standard for Malcolm was Kaczinski…

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                Certainly. I’m not trying to argue with you about what this guy thinks of himself.

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            And looks like Malcolm might be proven right in the end.

            After middle class sided with the blacks, the owner class turned all us of into field ******

            And here we are…

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              There’s better ways to say what you said, but there’s still some stuff wrong with it

              After middle class sided with the blacks,

              They really didn’t…

              the owner class turned all working Americans into

              They already had…

              “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

              LBJ said that during the civil rights movement. He wasn’t saying we should do that, but what the republicans were already doing.

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                1. How did civil rights get pushed?

                2. White middle clsss enjoyed 2 decades of unprecedented prosperity, what are you basing your claims on?

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    These companies don’t care about you, or your kids, or your grandkids. They have zero qualms about burning down the planet for a buck, so why should we have any qualms about burning them down to survive?

    We’re animals just like everything else on this planet, except we’ve forgotten the law of the jungle and bend over for our overlords when any other animal would recognize the threat and fight to the death for their survival. “Violence never solved anything” is a statement uttered by cowards and predators.

    (Quote from a book review made by the suspect)

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    Officer Tyler Frye, who has only been on the job for about six months, and a fellow officer responded to the McDonald’s where the suspect was spotted, the AP reports.

    They asked him to pull his blue medical mask down and “recognized him immediately” Frye said. “We didn’t even think twice about it, we knew that was our guy.”

    Frye said, “It feels good to get a guy like that off the street, especially starting my career this way, it feels great.”

    Yeah… Great job. I’m sure your corporate overloads will appreciate it.

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    After Mangione provided his real name and birth date, he was taken into custody on charges of forgery and false identification to law enforcement, court documents say.

    Tell me its not illegal to possess a false ID and present it to a private corporation like a hotel, for privacy, right?

    My understanding is this is only a crime Shem presenting it to police or other State official