Now I kinda want to see what a surprise caliphate would look like.

That’s not what that means. Separation of church and state simply means that the law doesn’t favor one religion over another. What you’re thinking of is the French formulation, known as laicite, which—you guessed it—is a French thing. It’s also based on some pretty problematic ideas that lead and have led to some pretty problematic results, so yeah.

For a non-French example, he’s the Australian constitution on the topic:

The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.

Nothing at all about lawmakers publicly adhering to a religion.

Monty lane problem.

You’re not supposed to say you’re boycotting Israel is the point, I think. Look up anti-BDS laws; this is already a thing in quite a few states.

We already have a model of this with Israel’s genocide in Gaza wracking up a climate footprint bigger than entire countries. Scale that up to a world war and… Yeah, not fun.

Okay that is literally not true. First, Ash’arism is also rationalist so yeah no. Like you do know many prominent Muslim scientists from the time period were themselves Asharite right? Second, the Islamic golden age didn’t die due to the power of religious figures; it died due to the sacking of Baghdad and continued right up until that moment. This happened more than two centuries after the creation of Ash’arism, and again many important developments happened in the Caliphate in the interim. Third, the Timurid renaissance came about a century later in a mainstream Sunni Muslim (so definitely not Mu’tazilite or some such) empire. In short:

It is inevitable that the religious mind either abandons their faith, or abandons science.

That literally didn’t happen.

Ultimately, if god existed and created everything… science would be another form of worship.

Yes, as clearly stated in the Quran, that is literally the point.

Sorry my people’s more than a millennium-long history doesn’t conform to your preconceived notions, but can you please not make shit up? Here’s a Wikipedia article. And in the first place, Arab distrust of science is a much more recent phenomenon that came after centuries of Ottoman neglect and is fading away right as we speak despite some of the most conservative mainstream theologies in the history of Islam.

Not that I disagree, but username checks out.

Given how well that worked with Russia, yeah don’t expect much help.

It was religion that got them there.

That’s… what? Like do you think the Assabids were atheists during the Islamic Golden Age?

In case anyone needed proof that intellectual property is a dystopian concept.

I’'m not American so I couldn’t vote either way, but calling out assholes like Pelosi and Schumer for being oligarchy and AIPAC stooges is not and was not disinformation. Voting for Harris is its own conversation and has nothing to do with that. Also your link’s information ends in 2022.

(they’re not, because Harris wouldn’t have advocated turning it into a riviera, cut USAID that helped Gazans, or escalated in bombing Iran, leaving aside the fact that Bibi explicitly wanted),

Slightly less fascist rhetoric doesn’t matter if it’s not accompanied by actions, I haven’t heard of significant USAID involvement in Gaza during the war, Democrats haven’t opposed the bombings much* and fascists aren’t the smartest bunch, respectively.

*This is a valid point, but I disagree. I know about the war powers resolution, but no establishment Democrat leaders have actually indicated they’d use that to stop the bombings. Schumer simply wanted the bombings to be done with congressional approval. The bombings are much better understood in terms of Israeli domestic politics given that Netanyahu’s government was facing dissolution. If anything Trump did get Netanyahu to stop; I’m not sure we could expect the same from AIPACrats.

I said right-wing, not Russia.

Oh you’re right, my bad.

But now that you mention it, the MUh boTH sides false equivalence fallacy is textbook Russian IRA troll farm tactics though.

Because the Democrats weren’t supporting Israel’s genocide just as vigorously as the Republicans? Remember the North Gaza offensive? The war with Lebanon? Bombing the shit out of Syria? Sometimes equivalence can be true, too.

disinfo ops

Just saying, this destroys any point you might have had. Genocide isn’t Russian disinformation.

That’s… hopeful…

I can’t stand that this piece of shit gets to dictate what most of the world does in their own fucking countries…

Eh, the only new thing to most of the world is how obvious he is about it.

At that point you might as well just go full socialism; 1000 people is just a mid-sized factory.

This isn’t the community for discussion-type questions. You have asklemmy and politics communities for that.

Tax wealth, not income.

I’d imagine it’s just the argument for capitalism. You know, profit incentive increasing efficiency and productivity and all that. Now this stuff is true to an extent (though a lot of politically active Lemmy likes to pretend otherwise), but all the good stuff happens before a single person reaches a billion dollars so if that’s the idea it would pretty much fall flat on its face.