• lazylion_ca@lemmynsfw.com
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    8 months ago

    I understand the ick factor, but dishwashers are built to sanitize. Its going to get hotter than anything you’d wanna stick your hands in.

    The biggest worry would be the bristles clogging the drain.

    Now ask her how she cleans her sex toys.

    • 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      8 months ago

      That’s not the problem, the types of bacteria and parasites is. They’re not exactly the same.

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    8 months ago

    My mother used to recycle her douche bottles, throw it in with the regular dishes, and make her own. Guess who always had to wash the dishes…

  • Aceticon@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    You have to consider only two things really:

    • Maybe, just maybe, something which was designed to kill the bacteria and remove the residue of things that came in contact with fresh or at most rotten food, is also totally effective at doing the same for things that came in contact with fecal mater and with toiled cleaning chemicals. Or maybe not.
    • Do you for a toilet brush need the level of cleaniness achieved by a dishwasher, and if not are there other reasonably simple methods to achieve the required level of cleaniness for it?

    In the absence of actual scientific studies that provided an answer for the “is a household dishwater entirelly effective for fecal mater and toilet cleaning chemicals contamination” question with a high degree of certainty, the consideration on whether to do this or not boils down to: “Is a dishwasher level of cleaniness for a toilet brush worth the risk that the dishwasher might not deal with fecal mater or toilet cleaning chemical contamination correctly?”

    Personally, I don’t think it’s worth the risk.

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    8 months ago

    I mean logically the kind of shit that grows on your dishes isn’t much better for you than the literal shit that a toilet brush would scrub out of your toilet bowl. They both contain a lot of the same bacteria, you wouldn’t be much better off licking an old used plate that has been sitting in a moist environment for a few days before you put the dishwasher on than you would be from licking a toilet brush. Well made dishwashers are designed to vigorously wash and, with the right settings and detergent, sanitize everything inside them so that they are safe to eat off of. Heck the machines they use to sanitize surgical equipment are essentially fancy dishwashers. But emotionally I couldn’t do it. Even if I used the best dishwasher known to man and rewashed everything multiple times, I just wouldn’t be able to get over that mental hurdle.

    • mako@lemmy.today
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      8 months ago

      I mean logically the kind of shit that grows on your dishes isn’t much better for you than the literal shit that a toilet brush would scrub out of your toilet bowl.

      First, what the fuck is growing on your dishes that you believe is “logically” equivalent to eating human shit? Second, this isn’t a logic problem or a place for opinion. All the work was already done for you, just waiting for you to look it up instead of giving your opinion on bacteria.

      Human shit also doesn’t only contain bacteria. There’s estimated100 million -1 billion virus per gram of wet shit inside of us. Fungi are estimated at up to a million microorganisms per gram of shit and there’s around 100 billion bacteria per gram of wet shit. Let’s not forget parasites like cryptosporidium which your body purges in shit.

      Meanwhile either giving your dishes a cursory rinse or not allowing them to sit covered in food for multiple days at a time would minimize bacterial or fungal growth on your dishes.

      This is a reminder for everyone: your opinion on facts that you can’t be bothered to type in a search box are less than worthless. They’re disinformation and in sone cases, like telling people that eating shit is no more harmful that licking a plate, can cause harm.

      Just say no to opinions on what facts may or may not be.

      • Laticauda@lemmy.ca
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        I didn’t say it was the equivalent I said neither are good for you and both could be cleaned and sanitized sufficiently by the right dishwasher, so please don’t put words in my mouth thanks. Damp used dishes stuffed into a dishwasher for a few days aren’t going to have anything good for you on them either and that’s how most people treat their used dishes. We get viruses and parasites growing on regular food that has gone bad too, and both are going to disagree with your stomach and potentially do some harm. Does rinsing your dishes or washing them right away help mitigate or prevent that? Sure. Does everyone do that? Of course not. I never said “eating shit is the exact same as licking a dirty dish” nor did I say anything close to that. I said “both are bad for you and a well made dishwasher is designed to clean things really well and even sanitize them in order to make them safe to eat off of, so it makes sense logically that this could be safe but I still wouldn’t do it anyway”.

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          Damp used dishes stuffed into a dishwasher for a few days aren’t going to have anything good for you on them either and that’s how most people treat their used dishes.

          No they don’t, don’t project onto the world what you think is normal. Everyone I know washes up or puts the dishwasher on straight after they’ve eaten, then puts their dishes away when they’re clean and dried.

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                8 months ago

                Wow. It usually takes my partner and I two or three days to fill it. I should look up the specifics of the model and see if the energy saving option is worth it for small loads

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                  8 months ago

                  Ah that’s the issue. The people I know have 2 kids, so it takes half the time to fill the dishwasher.

                  Personally I only run the dishwasher when we have people round for food and drinks. Otherwise I wash up the old fashioned way because it saves power.

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          You literally said ‘isnt much better’. A magnitude of a few thousand is ‘much better’ in my opinion.

          Noone likes being criticized but this could be an opportunity to embrace it and learn something.

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          I don’t know what “brutal science” is but I do know that the scientific process was used in many peer-reviewed studies to understand what lives in our shit. That holds a lot more weight for me than what an anonymous poster feels might be right in regards to the same subject matter.

          Furthermore, the greater concept here is that we as a species have access to actual information by powers of magnitude more then ever before in human history and yet a significant percentage of the population believe that vaccines cause autism because a washed up Playboy bunny repeated what she read from a discredited “doctor” and it caught on like wildfire.

          People in general too often believe what they hear or read without legitimate evidence. Disinformation exists at best because people unconsciously believe their opinions are just as valid as peer-reviewed research, and at worst to weaponize information for personal gain. Whatever the intent it’s a plague on humanity and I won’t apologize for calling it out when seen. If that’s too “brutal” for you I hope you can get to a place where reading cited information in response to opinion doesn’t disrupt your sensitivities.

    • 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      8 months ago

      But emotionally I couldn’t do it. Even if I used the best dishwasher known to man and rewashed everything multiple times, I just wouldn’t be able to get over that mental hurdle.

      I know, right? If nothing else it just feels wrong…

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      8 months ago

      I don’t know about the dishes but according to my memory of something I read a while ago (can’t look things up right now), the kitchen sink and kitchen brushes aren’t much cleaner than anything in the toilet; and actually, kitchen washcloths/sponges tend to be worse than toilet surfaces.

      So, maybe don’t put toilet brushes in the dishwasher but definitely don’t put in kitchen washcloths either. Not sure what this means about us washing dishes by hand with a sponge either. And maybe don’t put in used washcloths along your clothes in the washing machine.

      • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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        8 months ago

        i would assume the big problem with toilet items is that some quite nasty bugs come out of our bungholes, whereas in the kitchen you’ll at worst find salmonella if you don’t practice good hygeiene around raw unvaccinated bird products

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    8 months ago

    Yikes. I would never eat there again!

    Logically, the heat used for drying should kill any germs. But why risk it.

    I rinse mine in the toilet bowl when it has bleach based toilet cleaner in it. That alone keeps them pretty clean.

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    8 months ago

    I once asked my nephew about this - he worked in a hotel back then. Yes, indeed, they clean toilet brushes in a dishwasher.

    But it is a separate one that is only for toilet brushes and brush holders, nothing else.

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      I worked at a restaurant in the kitchen. We had a place on the wall to hang brushes. The GREEN brushes were to be used for food/prep areas only. The white brushes were for cleaning toilets, and other filthy places.

      The white brushes were soaked in buckets and rinsed/washed thoroughly in a slop sink, then later, put in the racks that push through the dishwasher conveyor belt that ran through the machine if I recall correctly. It’s been more than 20 years

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    8 months ago

    You know how you wash your dishes to keep the leftover bits of food on them from crusting onto them in the dish washer?

    That, like ten times first, maybe twenty.

  • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    What the fuck is wrong with people.

    how the fuck do you lack this much common sense? to put your fucking shitty toilet brush where you put your eating utensils?

      • 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.worksOP
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        8 months ago

        They’re still not the same germs. No dishwasher goes over 90 or 95°C (household ones). There is bacteria in feces that can survive that temperature. Not to mention parasite spores/eggs, some can easily withstand even 150°C.

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          You are forgetting caustic bleaching chemicals… I mean it’s gross but also hygienic

          • RobertoOberto@sh.itjust.works
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            But are you going to add bleach to your dishwasher when you run the toilet brush, then do dishes normally on the next cycle?

            Seems like you’re opening a whole new can of health-hazardous worms with that plan.