Summary
A Harris poll reveals that 69% of Americans believe Donald Trump’s proposed tariffs would increase consumer costs, with many planning purchases ahead of his inauguration to avoid price hikes.
Trump has championed tariffs as a key policy to boost domestic manufacturing, but economists and corporate leaders warn costs will be passed to consumers, potentially adding $2,600 annually to household expenses.
While Republicans are more supportive of tariffs, only 51% think they will benefit the economy.
The poll highlights widespread concern over tariffs’ economic impact, especially amid lingering inflation and financial uncertainty.
It doesn’t matter what they ‘think’. Tariffs will fuck everything up for everyone involved. People’s opinions on this mean nothing. It is like asking people if they think that being thrown into a deep body water with a heavy chain around around your feet will kill. The answer they give is irrelevant. That action will kill you because you will drown. End of discussion.
This may seem odd, but remember: greater than 2/3 of eligible voters did not vote for Trump.
True… but the non voters are dumber than Trump voters. At least the Trump voters understand that voting matters.
Representation also matters, and it’s understandable why someone might not want to vote for a candidate that they don’t feel represents them.
Edit: be sure to downvote this comment if you think large portions of people don’t deserve representation.
Pretty sure I wasted my vote since Harris lost (I’m in California)
If 2/3 of people seemingly understand the truth, how tf was he voted back in? Can they get rid of the outdated electoral college system yet?
Less than a third of eligible voters voted for him, so it tracks. Close to half the country not voting suggests they understand tariffs, but either just fine paying 20% extra for everything or don’t believe he’ll actually do the things he’s been most vocal about doing.
Electoral college was irrelevant this election. Trump won the popular vote because people don’t think voting is important. Kamala Harris was a shit candidate, but Democratic voters weren’t given a primary to pick a better one.
While the Electoral College did not directly factor into this election it could have indirectly factored in due to minority voters in solidly controlled states simply deciding not to vote due to their votes having no impact on the outcome. If for instance you were a Democrat in a state that Republicans have won by double digit percentages for the last couple decades you might rightly assume that whether you vote or not the outcome remains unchanged.
If we had a straight popular vote rather than the EC then literally every vote would count, unlike the current system where that’s only true in battleground states. In this case the EC is just another in a long list of voter suppression tools.
Mandatory voting?
Make not voting cause you to be chosen first for jury duty.
Personally, I’ve never minded jury duty, but people seem to lose their minds over it.
I vote in every primary and every election and have never been selected for jury duty.
Which implies I have no peers.
I don’t want to potentially be judged by people who can’t even be fucked to vote, thank you very much.
Do you want to be judged by someone who isn’t smart enough to get out of jury duty?
I never understood the hatred over jury duty. Except for people who work minimum wage or don’t get paid jury duty.
Jury duty is the most direct way a normal citizen can affect democracy.
I’d agree, except do we really want to emphasize the least engaged citizens for jury duty? That’s still someone’s freedom on the line, and while for some select few people finding a chance to vote is extremely difficult due to registration fuckery in Republican states, with the rise of early voting and vote by mail, the primary demographic of non-voting adults is people who are apathetic or intentionally ignorant to the political process. My fear is: “This is a waste of my time, and 30 days isn’t that long; just send them to jail.” And there won’t be anyone who cares strongly enough to object because the jury is packed with these apathetic citizens. To clarify, I see this as more of a problem with small-fry misdemeanor or less serious felony cases, not like murder or rape trials. But that’s most trials.
You could argue that politically engaged Republicans can be much, much worse on a jury, that this could help them develop a sense of engagement with politics, and that they might care if they can see their choice directly affecting someone else, but it seems sketchy.
When we don’t get paid because we miss work and are dependent on that money, it can be annoying. In theory, I think it would be cool to be on a jury, but its a luxury to be able to afford to be on a jury.
I guess it depends on where you are. In my city, you get 150% of minimum wage/hour of jury duty, so $18 an hour. Though of course if you make more than that and are paid hourly, it’s a definite loss.
My state pays $20/day. The last time I was summoned, the estimated cost of the commute using the IRS average is $35 (granted, that’s a high estimate) and not reimbursed or compensated. Also the $20 is taxed. So it effectively cost me money to go to jury duty in my old county even before accounting for lost wages.
While I too want more people to participate, I think we should also recognize that choosing not to vote is protected speech. That’s probably not why people don’t vote, so we should probably find other ways to encourage voting (holiday, more access to polls, etc.) Unfortunately, some repulsive people prefer it when fewer people vote.
For protected speech, I’d prefer if people would go in, take a ballot, and submit it blank. Essentially, making a statement that there is no one on the ballot who would represent them. It would be more meaningful than not going to the polling place at all. It sends a more significant message than just staying home.
I do agree that we need to make it easier, not harder, to vote.
Automatic registration, election day holiday, laws forcing employers to facilitate voting by their employees.
“If you are going to protest at least do it exactly the way I think you should.”
Well, perhaps you should do it in a way that doesn’t appear exactly like you actually can’t be bothered to do anything.
Matter of perspective. Its not important that you think their action has no effect, its important that they think their action has effect.
Neither perspective is really wrong or right absolutely. We won’t know which is right for so many decades that its useless to declare one perspective entirely baseless.
The new suppressed it, or the democrats restricted who could run, or anything else, but stop telling me the primary I voted in didn’t happen.
It did happen, it was just irrelevant. No serious competition was allowed (Sorry, Dean Phillips).
This is fair. It was a bad primary
Was Kamala on your ballot? If the results of an election are ignored, was it really an election?
I’m not going to say that people were so stupid that they didn’t realize a vote for Biden was really a vote for Kamala.
Most voters are dumber than dogshit. Can’t blame the EC for this one. Blame the fucking dumbass voters.
So 1/3rd of Americans don’t understand how economies work or what a tariff is.
And 20% do, but voted for him anyway…
Tariffs were barely talked about until the day after the election for some reason. So a lot of people learned after the election…
Tariffs were talked about constantly before the election. A lot if people weren’t listening.
But muh eggz
That assumes that everyone who answered this poll bothered to vote
At this point, with him announcing to all and sundry during the campaign that he was going to do this, not bothering to vote was still a vote.
But you see, the leopards won’t eat their faces!
And the other .001% is former president McKinley who Trump assumes is still alive.
Gotta be the same 30-40% that vote trump no matter what he does.
US has lead pipes, piss poor education standards with not enough funding, environmental pollution, bought out media that perpetuates toxic culture
Wut that has to do with anything there saying??!! *cough and wheeze*
The Democrats want to take your guns!
Dude! This is Trumpland! We don’t do reality!
Egad, you’re right! Here, we let reality do us!
They just go with whatever Trump says.
I was told that Trump got elected because of the economy.
“bUsInEsS mAn GoOd!!!”
Man, if only they could read they’d know how not good at business he is.
These dipshits only know what Trump’s name looks like. That’s how they find him on a ballot and fill in the box.
By people who don’t understand the economy.
Or bother asking or listening to an economist.
Or who even pay attention to actual news
But eggs expensive
So, at least a 1/3rd of them voted for higher prices? I mean it’s fine if that’s what they wanted I guess.
New cars coming from Canada or Mexico? 25% more expensive. American cars
madefinal assembly in USA with tons of parts from Mexico/Canada will be $$ too. And about every piece of electronics 10% more expensive too.Does Trump know that drugs like fentanyl is being made in USA? Does he thin
gk drug manufacturer/dealer all come from mexico/canada/china?While I don’t quite believe this connection, I want to point out that legacy car manufacturers heavily depend on imports, especially from Canada and Mexico …… but Tesla does not
Does he thin[k] drug manufacturer/dealer all come from mexico/canada/china?
Yes. That’s the racism.
Headline should read “One third of Americans have no idea how a tariff works”
And most of them showed up and voted for Trump. 1/3rd of adults voting for fascism is all it takes to destroy a country when 70 million people stay home and don’t vote
Maybe they should have bothered to vote? Crazy idea, I know.
No, blah blah blah, not prefect candidate, blah blah.
Can’t blame them for being lazy shitheads. Of course it’s someone else’s fault.
I upgraded my GPU and bought a bunch of audio stuff that I was gonna wait to pull the trigger on til later. Not taking the chance of not being able to afford it later.
The other third are household pets.
The other third are household
petsplants.Give the pets a bit of credit, even they saw this shit coming…
Maybe they should have voted appropriately on Nov 5.
The other 1/3 of people probably don’t even know what a tariff is.
2/3 don’t know. They’ve just heard enough negative press to agree.
Why didn’t they hear this before the election?
I mean it’s very simple. A tariff is what you pay the government to get stuff released from the port of entry.
You buy a $1000 DJI quadcopter that was manufactured in China, if Trump does his “60% on everything from China” tariff the US government says you have to pay them $600 or it goes back on the boat.
The complicated part of tarrifs is stuff like “are X-men action figures human or non-human toys” because those get different rates. Not what tariffs “are”.
It’s not hard, the country’s just full of uninterested idiots.
The part they refuse to think about is the DJI is just going to raise the price to $1700 to cover. And the fact that there aren’t going to be any local drone manufacturers for competition.
To cover what? DJI isn’t paying anything extra.
If they raise the price to $1700, then the tariff would be $1020 to the US government, again by you, and you would pay $2720 total to get your thing, split between DJI and the port authority.
After they put it on the boat DJI doesn’t care. They have their $1000. If they feel like it they can add the tariff charge and handle that for you, that’s how it usually happens now, but they don’t have to. You’ll just get a letter from the port authority about the charges needed to release your item.
I believe you’re conflating tariffs and customs duty.
You’re talking about direct to consumer from an overseas store, whereas I think the person you’re replying to is talking about the pricing at a US store?
What’s the difference?
Somebody has to pay the tax to get the items off the boat. Spoiler alert, everyone will pass the cost on to the final consumer.
Way to shoot ourselves in the dick.
Not just yourselves… it will probably send Canada and Mexico into a recession as well.
How would that happen? Aren’t most things sold in Canada NOT from US and probably from China?
Idk about food tho
The Canadian economy is tied at the hip to the US. A lot of our agri is US produced and while most consumer end products are Chinese a lot of Canadian manufacturing uses US intermediary products. Our resource export market is also US focused right now especially for hard wood, dairy, maple syrup, and oil/natural gas.
I don’t think we actually have the facilities to handle Alberta’s production through the Atlantic provinces or BC.
Yeah. It will probably suck for Canada too, but hopefully our government does the right thing and strengthens our ties with other markets in Europe, South America, and Asia. Really sucks how the past few years the Canadian government has torpedoed a lot of good international relations that would be really beneficial to have going into the Trump administration.
As per some other thread I hope we seriously consider trying to join the EU (or at least the EEZ/Shegen area)
Do you think the EU would let the USA in? Even Australia isn’t part of the EU even though they compete in the Eurovision song contest.
I think the EU would refuse if only because it’d be extremely likely that the US would brexit themselves as soon as the government flipped.
No way the USA would try to join the EU any time soon. Canada might though. Don’t know if they’d be allowed in.
Canada’s move to expand our trade agreements began back in 2003 with the BSE (bovine spongiform encephalopathy) crisis when our cattle exports to the USA (and other nations) were shut down.
But you’re right that we haven’t worked hard enough on further expansions.
Jesus, this is so fucking contrarian.
Yes, taxing goods imported from countries with poor labor laws increases their price.
Yes, we should increase the cost of goods that are made with unfair labor practices (or ban them entirely)
Yes, Trump is still a criminal even if he accidentally does the right thing every now and then
Not all imported goods are made with unfair labor practices.
