Summary
Donald Trump plans to ban transgender individuals from military service shortly after his inauguration, reversing President Biden’s 2021 policy and expelling about 15,000 serving trans troops.
Critics, including advocacy groups and military experts, warn this move will exacerbate recruitment and retention challenges, harm unit cohesion, and create skill gaps amid existing shortfalls.
The order aligns with Trump’s broader anti-trans agenda, which includes banning gender-affirming care and restricting trans rights nationwide.
Legal challenges are anticipated as the military faces administrative and operational disruptions.
I just don’t get it. Trans people can pull a trigger as well as anyone else. This is just hatred.
This is just hatred
Yes, this is indeed America.
Every 2 years since Reagan, we get a vote for either Greed(D), or Greed+Hatred®.
Greed+Hatred won this cycle. Not getting hatred as a result would be the confusing thing. A welcome confusing thing, but confusing nonetheless.
Hopefully the discharge is honorable and their service helps them get a good civilian job where they are happy and accepted
We’ll be lucky if they get a dishonorable discharge, because the way the GOP stands now… a firing squad isn’t out of the question.
I am disgusted by the world.
Fuck you Mace, Fuck you Elon, and FUCK YOU everyone who voted for Trump and signing my death warrant.
Elon ESPECIALLY hates trans people because his own trans kid disowned him
These people care way too much about others people’s genitalia.
Yea, it’s a pretty weird obsession
Seriously, pretty much all people I‘ve met who are offended by LGBTQ people have either suppressed desires or are really insecure about their own sexuality in some way.
It’s like that Hungarian minister who constantly attacked gay people until he was found by police at an illegal gay orgy in Brussels (illegal since it was during Covid lockdowns).
Let’s not overshadow the fact that people DO hate us just because they need someone to hate, or because their religion says to, or because their politics says to. Trying to pretty it up or make it “less bad” because they’re all secretly gay doesn’t help.
I detest the “all homophobes are secretly gay” thing so much.
What it’s saying, in effect, is that queer people are responsible for our own oppression. Because if every homophobe is secretly queer, then no straight person can ever be homophobic. If they were, they wouldn’t be straight, by definition.
The only way that argument works is if we’re actually arguing that there is no such as being straight, and that everyone is at least 1% bisexual. There’s some basis for that, especially in studies of ancient cultures and uncontacted tribes. But until we start taking that seriously as an idea (and that is a very, very contentious idea to be taking seriously), this “Only queer people can be homophobic” nonsense has got to stop.
One percent seems too low considering John Barrowman exists.
I don’t think anybody thinks that only queer folk can be homophobic, but it does happen quite often. Usually it’s the fault of heteronormative indoctrination, religious or otherwise (which is also usually the problem when straight folk are homophobic)
That doesn’t make it less bad, it makes it more bad.
There’s also some women that were so traumatised by experience with men that they are afraid trans women will attack women, and creeps will claim they are trans to elude punishment. I think this is a real problem, but much rarer than it may seem, and it’s not a good enough reason to say that trans women don’t/shouldn’t exist. Maybe it’s because I’m too privileged to understand
Please provide a source to 1 instance in the history of the world where an abuser used cross-dressing as the primary way to gain access to his victims…we’ll wait.
Yes, people are scared of this. But, only bc GOP leaders tell them to be. It’s a made up fear that cannot be legitimized like you are trying to do
I’m not trying to legitimise anything, but when I try to convince such people, I usually fail, that’s why I brought it up. Yes it’s weaponising fear and it’s the same irrational beliefs that make people racist or nazi, and a lot of other things, I think
Regarding the sources, I think it’s stories like this or this that makes them worry, don’t know if sources are credible, first one looks pretty fake.
nitpick
besides, I didn’t say
used cross-dressing as the primary way
it can be opportunistic, not modus operandi, I only think that this is realistic because statistically speaking there are enough abusers on the planet so that at least some could try doing that
Probably because the plan is to use the military to deport Trans people after he sates his thirst for deporting POC.
As a PoC trans immigrant
does he know he can’t deport anyone who wasn’t ported? lol
It’s gonna be just like the “good” old days, where bigotry is both accepted and the norm.
I’m just waiting for them to change hate crime to act of morality, claiming it’s just upholding good Christian values.I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised. 🤮
They want to deport the Mexicans, ban the Muslims, kick out the trans and (ultimately) the gays… they want anyone who isn’t a complaint WASP to be banished from society. They think they can do it all themselves. But they’re going to find out real quick that they can’t.
They want to deport the Mexicans, ban the Muslims, kick out the trans and (ultimately) the gays…
It’s gonna be great watching centrists pretend that they didn’t just spend the election cycle moving to the right on immigration, supporting an ongoing genocide in Gaza, and parroting right wing hate against trans people in their own campaign ads.
They think they can do it all themselves.
If Democrats’ actions of the past months are anything to go on, Republicans won’t have to do it all themselves. They’ll have help from Democrats.
and when they find out they can’t, they’ll cry foul and claim they were sabotaged
I still remember the labor shortage from all the deportations when they found out they need immigrants to do the work no one wants to do. They never seem to learn
Don’t forget turning women into breeding machines that legally belong to their husbands.
Yeah, in the future when the economy is hurting from a lack of population growth, it will be because the white women aren’t popping out enough babies and definitely not because the Republican hate machine threw out or killed millions of people who were already contributing to society.
Looking forward to the “support our troops” crowd disavowing Trump for this
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Goodbye naval intelligence
Hey! Let’s send over 10k of the people we trained how to use weapons professionally home in a clearly discriminatory manner instead of letting them keep their jobs. That will do wonders for political stability.
To be honest they have a history of switching sides… just a joke I heard take it easy! I dont know how I feel about this, I think it should be like anything else. Can you do the job well? if so then you belong in the military.
You mean fair and antidiscriminatory?
I believe that the focus should be on an individual’s capabilities and qualifications for the job, regardless of race, size, or color. What matters most is their ability to perform effectively
Regret joining the marines? Just wear a dress!
It didn’t work for Corporal Klinger.
It’s so strange how this same action could be attributed to him being an ally or even just a cuck.
“The trans community is a beacon of Hope that must be protected at all costs. Under no circumstances will I allow any trans person to fight or die for our country, as they are the ones our country should be protecting most.”
That’s exactly it! I knew I was pulling the idea from somewhere but couldn’t remember where. Of course it was the Onion.
15,000? Is that density of trans people comparable to the density outside the Army?
Yeah.
According to this site: https://usafacts.org/articles/what-percentage-of-the-us-population-is-transgender/ about 1.14% of the US is trans.
And according to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces there’s about 1.328 million active duty armed forces in the US.
1.14% of 1.328 million would be 15,139, so 15,000 is pretty much exactly in line with the typical stats. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it is in fact an estimate based on such data, rather than there being a survey ready-to-go which identifies how many such service members there are.
Makes total sense as an estimation. Thank you for the insight.
Hate sells and America is buying
Whether it’s trans people, gay people, or whatever, this is always going to happen to some population if the government is aware. Maybe not today, maybe not for a couple decades, but eventually. All you can do is hope to outlive it happening.
In the future it’s going to be about your genetic data that people have been freely sharing.
