I get the violent rhetoric, I really do. But, at the same time, I can’t help but feel like more people would be more amenable to social reform that benefits the little guy to the mere detriment of the rich, rather than murdering them horribly. I could be wrong, but doesn’t history teach us that violent revolution more often just begets more violence than actually solves problems?
but doesn’t history teach us that violent revolution more often just begets more violence than actually solves problems?
Nope! Look at the life expectancy increases under socialist countries, they mathematically have less death!
Also compare red terrors casualty numbers to standard operating casualty numbers. Like 20 million people die of capitalism caused deprivation a year worldwide today.
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in all seriousness, no it doesn’t. that’s whitewashing by liberals. good revolutions are often still violent. because guess what, if you want to challenge power, power doesn’t just fucking let you do whatever you want.
power doesn’t just fucking let you do whatever you want.
No, but power can be subverted. Maybe I’m hopelessly optimistic, but I think there’s still a non-violent solution.
not if history is any indication.
I agree 100%. I’m as left as probably most people here, but I just don’t understand why the first course of action is to claw the opps eyes out.
I understand. I throw obscene amounts of money at the cash black hole that is rent. I understand entirely how people think that people who make money simply by sitting on assets they own and otherwise provide nothing to society should be, ahem, obliterated. I just think it’s still possible to obliterate them with regulations instead of actual murder.
Ok but the rich, and tgerefore powerful will block said reform or even weaponize it. We’re at 40 years of losses for the little-guy. We’re down to the bone and they’re still cutting while the pigs still feed at the public through
Why would you us a bow? Range is poor, and lethality is also low, esp. with the access the the ultra-wealthy have to medicine. When you hunt deer with a bow, you can usually expect to have to follow a blood trail, as it’s rarely an instant drop.
Use a .300 Winchester magnum from 1000 yards; at that distance, you still have about 850 foot-pounds of energy, which is roughly double a 9mm at point black range. With the right ammo, that’s more than enough to get the job done. You probably want a combined mechanical and ammunition accuracy of about .5 MOA range though, so that you have deviation of less than 6" at that range. It’s a challenging shot, but it’s definitely doable if you know your holds and can call the wind.
And you can swap scopes depending on, uh, context.
Bows can be roughly created from easily available materials, making it impossible to ban the ownership of.
I don’t think that particular game is hunted on the streets.
They have meticulously maintained resorts, islands, megayachts, etc for exact purpose that.
It’s no proper sport tho, once the staff stops protecting them, they just stand there sucking their thumbs.
But it’s still fully worth it, once the kill is done & the empire (for at least a moment) falls, nature can’t believe what just finally happened, etc.
tactical raids on those properties.
let’s have it out.
Fire and smoke are powerful tools. Can’t stay in a bunker forever if you can’t pull air into it.
I mean, historically speaking un-tactical raids (pitchforks & torches) worked, however they did buy up a lot more police/military personnel since then.
pretty soon they’ll have formidable robots to replace the unloyal labor.
and so it begins
But what are you going to eat once you run out of rich people?
the food that i bought/exchanged from my local farmer for a fair price
And what are you going to pay him with?
Rolexes
if money is not existent at this point, i will, as mentioned in my original comment, exchange it for something else, be it other goods, or my services as a mechanic, electrician, metal worker, or IT-support (yes i know, kind of an outlier)
If you think a complex, modern society can be run on barter trade, I have some bad news for you.
well then, prove me wrong
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I’m not against but I feel like we have to establish boundaries. Like how rich is rich game? Is a weathy dude huntable? What about people that won the lotery? I Imagine billionaires are the better target right?!
As with any hunt, the biggest ones are the most impressive. Nobody’s going to commend you for taking down a scrawny one when there are billion point bucks out there.
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wow calm down Adolf
Anyone without capital is off limits
The true clarity is class consciousness :3
You’re only allowed to have post-nut clarity in capitalism if you have earned a lot or better yet once you have a stable passive income. Otherwise, it’s money-horney talking in you.
And most of the days that’s what lemmy sounds like “I never had sex, this attractive guy has slept with too many girls, we gotta make sure there’s an equal distribution of girls among all of us”.
We can still talk about how that situation is unfair, but you’ll never convince me that you’re neither jealous nor horny.
This is vibes based politics.
No, an exploited class noticing their exploitation and some dude thinking he is entitled to having sex with women are not the same actually.
I would like to point out that this is just what robin hood is
I always fall asleep thinking of that scene in dark Knight rises where people are raiding the rich homes. Lovely
But the clarity is getting shot in self defense
Now I need to see a photo shop of a Post brand cereal named Nut Clarity, with picture of fuzzy almonds floating in milk.
Lol!
This fantasy you people have is nothing but sociopathy.
What “rich” are you trying to kill and eat? Just, anyone that you have judged to have more than you have? It’s not like you will be able to get to the people at the very top. And what, you just murder those that you have labeled “rich” along the way?
My brother makes more than I do. MUCH MORE. I would never want to see him and his family murdered by douche bags out of jealousy for the things he has been able to work hard to achieve. And he has worked hard all of his life to make it to where he is now!
Do you guys have some sort of test to see who should and shouldn’t be murdered just because they have more than you do?
You guys are fucking sick in the head!
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What no theory does to a mf.
But seriously, you got it wrong. We would all prefer if things go nonviolent, but that is not possible.
Not only that but the post is just a joke, adventurism is not something that’s incentivized in leftist groups/movements afaik.
And your rethoric about “anyone that have more than I do” is completely wrong. The problem is not someone earning more than other people, but the bourgeoisie, the ultra rich, the ones that lobby for their interests, that buy and sponsor politicians. Anyone else is much closer to the poor than they are to the rich.
Also this has nothing to do with jealously. You should read some Marx to at least understand what you’re trying to criticize and oppose. Or at least watch some Marxist creators like Second Thought, Yugopnik and Hakim.
I loathe this runaway capitalist system we live in just as much as the next but this violent rhetoric is getting a bit too spicy. Let’s tax the owning class into oblivion. Take away their undeserved wealth and make them work for a living like the rest of us. Riot and rebel if our lives depend on it. But these calls for the outright slaughter of other human beings are going too far.
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The owner class wrote the rules and will never give up one iota of power. If we want positive change, meaningful progress, it won’t be from working within the system.
History only teaches one lesson and it teaches it very plainly: no progress is made without bloodshed. The blood of the worker class has already been spilled, millions of times over.
Capitalists can choose to give up their property and become workers like the rest of us, or they can get the wall and then their property is redistributed. The capitalist class has colonized our society, and their enforcers are the police. And according to Franz Fanon’s books on anticolonial struggle in Algeria, colonial relations never go away unless fought with anticolonial violence to oppose the violence of the colonizers. Ultimately, violence is what is needed to force those in power to give up their wealth, and if they gave up their wealth willingly then violence would not be necessary.
I just rewatched some Hawkeye episodes. I’m down with this. brb got to make some more special arrows.
Thank you for your important research.
Feel like your chances of seeing one of the dozens of people who hold like half the wealth in the world is pretty slim on the street.
ah but we know who they are no? that means we can find them.
I hope your bow skills are enough to kill their armed bodyguards first.
i can learn
I bet a couple dead goons would convince the rest to find safer employment. They do that job because they know there’s very little risk protecting some rich asshole
During revolutionary conditions a lot of bodyguards end up, you know… taking stock of where their class interests lie, if you know what I mean.
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I hear there are ways to track their private jets…
On a completely unrelated note: Ukraine has been modding off the shelf drones for aerial recon and munitions deployment.
Most of them are paying teams of retired Navy seals to protect themselves.
