Click a link and need to go back 10x to get back. Yes, I enjoy the footballs.

  • Eiri@lemmy.caEnglish
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    9 days ago

    I’ve always wondered. Is there really a benefit to a ton of redirects like that? Like, do they gain anything by making it harder to back out?

    Or is it just extremely incompetent website programming?

    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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      9 days ago

      I always just assumed it was a form of “dark pattern” meant to try to stop people from leaving their website once they’ve entered (e.g., coming from a different site, you can’t just hit backspace or click back to immediately exit their site. You’re stuck now).

      • Eiri@lemmy.caEnglish
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        9 days ago

        I think that’s right for a website where you accidentally clicked an ad and now it’s trying to convince you you have a virus and you need to download their virus to remove it. Or maybe for an ad pop-up where annoying you might increase the chances that the content makes it into your brain.

        But for a news website i have trouble seeing the logic.

          • Eiri@lemmy.caEnglish
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            9 days ago

            I’d have expected ad providers to catch on pretty quickly that there’s cheating involved, no?

            • Krauerking@lemy.lolEnglish
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              9 days ago

              Nope. They just hear back about number of views and how it influences the shoppers and brags about how it works.

              I honestly think it’s mostly the idea of advertising that keeps it running as an industry.

              Like Facebook juicing their video viewership and recent news about Google using off screen ads in their views and impressions numbers.

  • terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    8 days ago

    Not sure about that site specifically, but others that’s done it to me was easy to get around. Most of them are thwarted with basically double clicking the back button.

    • intensely_human@lemm.eeEnglish
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      7 days ago

      As the screenshot illustrates, the redirects have been repeated many times to thwart that strategy.

  • Katana314@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    9 days ago

    What makes me angry here is, I am 90% sure the browsers could code against this.

    If the user clicks a control on a webpage one time, the stack can declare “One user click! You have earned yourself One (1) navigation.” Then, the click activates some JavaScript that moves you to a new webpage. That new webpage has an auto-loader redirect that instead runs a 300ms timeout, and then takes you to some other page. The browser, meanwhile, has seen this, and establishes “We are still only operating off of that One (1) click. So, instead of adding a new page to the user history, we’ll replace that first navigation.”

    I have yet to hear a satisfactory reason as to why that’s not possible.

    • Robert7301201@slrpnk.netEnglish
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      9 days ago

      We just got vertical align last month. There’s so many things they should be working on but are too busy trying to add more ads or monetization features.

      I think the web is just too long in the tooth at this point but there’s nothing we can do.

      • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        9 days ago

        CSS features like vertical alignment would be defined by web standards. Those fall under the non-profit org W3C. They’re pretty slow about things as to not break the fuck out of everything.

        Browser behaviour like merging redirects falls on browsers tho, so yeah, we can blame Chrome or FF on that one.

        • Overshoot2648@lemm.eeEnglish
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          9 days ago

          Still waiting for CSS Color 4 so SVG gradients don’t look like shit. sRGB gradients are completely broken.

  • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    9 days ago

    just click again, but fast enough to get the redirect, but not too fast to miss it and double click, and try not to do it a third time or you’re going back a few ages.

  • randon31415@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    9 days ago

    Also: Algorithmic generated feeds where you try to click on one thing, but you click on the next thing in the list and when you click back, the feed looks completely different because it has new information on you. That thing you wanted to click on is gone and will never return.

      • ...m...@ttrpg.networkEnglish
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        9 days ago

        …and now you’ve hit upon my other peeve: (mostly shopping) sites coded to disable browsing links in a new tab…

        • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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          9 days ago

          Perhaps it’s because I never raw dog the web, and using uBlock Origins on “medium mode” somehow fixes it, but I don’t think I have ever experienced that.

          I have experienced sites that block right clicking, and that has always infuriated me. But I was able to get a little FF extension that disables right click blocking on websites. Which is pretty useful for downloading videos on sites that try to stop you from downloading their videos (though some have wisened up and can completely disable the ability to save a video through that method. The “save video as” option is completely greyed out). yt-dlp usually works in those cases, or one of the countless web-based video downloaders… but still annoying.

          • ...m...@ttrpg.networkEnglish
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            9 days ago

            …ah, i may be conflating contextal menus with opening new tabs, since that’s the primary UI mode i use to do so: regardless, any kind of shenanigans which aim to disable application-level UI get under my skin…

      • Skyhighatrist@lemmy.caEnglish
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        9 days ago

        What’s worse is that YouTube sometimes doesn’t do that, i.e. when you hit back it shows the same list from the cache or something. It gives you hope and makes it worse on those occasions when it does fully refresh on back.

    • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
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      9 days ago

      Youtube recommended videos does this. Not a huge issue because I can always search for the video myself but it’s annoying.

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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        9 days ago

        Ugh yes.

        Though on desktop I’ve completely switched over to using FreeTube, and I’ve been loving it. The order of the videos in the feed does not change. It’s great.

    • IndiBrony@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      9 days ago

      That’s actually how I do my Lemmy feed. I have one chance to comment on a thread and if I don’t do it, when the page refreshes I lose it forever.

      I’ve learned to accept that there are just some things the universe never wanted me to comment on.

      • Angry_Autist (he/him)@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        9 days ago

        I’d love that, my entire frontpage is the same 30 things over and over unless I deliberately sort for something then it’s a DIFFERENT 30 things over and over

        • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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          9 days ago

          Try some different sorting options. I’ve found “Active” and “Hot” to be kind of shitty (though to be fair, I haven’t really used them in like 6 months so maybe they’re better).

          I usually go for “Top 6 Hours” or “Top 12 Hours” for stuff that’s not too old and relatively active.

  • bitwolf@lemmy.oneEnglish
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    8 days ago

    You can right click (long press on mobile) to skip back to the page that took you there

    • intensely_human@lemm.eeEnglish
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      7 days ago

      That’s what OP has done; that’s what we’re seeing in this screenshot.

      The back button is highlighted. This list is the list of options OP gets when he right clicks the back button.

        • Mushroomm@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          7 days ago

          Alright lol so long as you understand being forged by the fires of the early internet deems you responsible to be aware of such tomfoolery against us internet patrons. Convince 10 computer illiterate friends to install ublock origin and all shall be forgiven haha

  • Dizzy Devil Ducky@lemm.eeEnglish
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    9 days ago

    This is one of the absolute greatest reasons to support opening most everything in a new tab (as long as you don’t end up like my mom who at one point had over 100 tabs on her phone). Doesn’t matter if it’s a link from the same website, from a search engine, or whatever else there is. New tab.

      • murtaza64@programming.devEnglish
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        9 days ago

        Seems cool, but it’s currently missing some pretty important languages (Hindi, Urdu, Thai, Bosnian/Croatian/Serbian, Swahili, etc). I’d put up with something limited like this if it was FOSS and/or selfhostable but it appears not to be

        • Daemon Silverstein@thelemmy.clubEnglish
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          9 days ago

          Exactly. Also, it doesn’t have Latin (used for both scientific terms such as “Athene Cunicularia”, philosophical such as “Homo homini lupus est”, as well for liturgical and ritualistic texts, especially occult texts) nor Hebrew.

      • Daemon Silverstein@thelemmy.clubEnglish
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        9 days ago

        While it offers a concurrent alternative to Google translate, it still lacks some features, as @murtaza64@programming.dev mentioned, many languages are missing. In my case, I sometimes experiment with terms across various languages, sometimes Hindi (“O param Devi Kaali”), sometimes latin (“Vita mortem manducat, Mors manducat vitam” is a latin phrase I wrote myself, following Latin grammar rules), sometimes Hebrew (especially for Gematria calculation using numerical values from Hebrew letters (Aleph is 1, Bet is 2, Gimmel is 3, and so on) after translating/transliterating a word/name such as “לילית”). For these kinds of experimentation, DeepL can’t really be of use, so I need either Google Translate or Bing Translate (both support the aforementioned languages).

  • officermike@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    10 days ago

    Yeah, I also hate back-button hijacking. I suspect some websites do it to artificially force more page views for ad revenue. Try a long-press on the back button to view the history for that browser tab and click on the most recent page you think won’t redirect.

    • yeehaw@lemmy.caEnglish
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      10 days ago

      I usually right click the back button and go 2 entries back. Done.

      Microsoft also does this a lot on some of their sites.

      • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@lemmy.todayEnglish
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        10 days ago

        Usually with this, it’s like 20 entries, so pushes everything else off.

        The ones where it’s only a couple entries mostly seem to be the ones where there’s multiple articles on a single page and it’s at least might be attempting to be helpful?

    • Valmond@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      10 days ago

      Youtube does it, and it just continues to blast the wrong video you accidentally just auto-started because instead if fucking off, it shows other videos with the bad video getting just reduced.

      Aaargh for the state of todays internet

    • where_am_i@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      9 days ago

      I hate that this is even a feature in the web standard. A result of some massive corporate corruption for sure.

      • brbposting@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        8 days ago

        I recently looked into this after it seemed like Facebook messed with my back button on a private mobile window:

        Someone pointed out that it’s nice to have, for example, your email provider know that you probably want to go back for a message to your inbox instead of going back to the previous page.

        But what if browsers monitored which sites abused the feature and showed a pop-up when you click the back button, just like they offer to show you notifications? They could show you:

        This site has been reported to hijack the back button. Would you like to go back to the last domain that you visited?

        and offer to remember the setting.