You’ve got to let the police do their jobs, number one. Number two, you have to do a policy of stop and frisk. When you see a guy coming down the street and you can — the police know every one of them. They know their middle name. They know where they live. They know every one of them, the local police, and they’re great.
You got to let them do their job, stop and frisk, and take their gun away. You’ve got to do it. If somebody has because they have all these guns — you know, it’s very interesting, the toughest gun law, the toughest, by far, in the whole United States is in Chicago, and yet it’s the most — it’s —
Let all your Republican 2Aer friends and family know.
Everybody calm down. There’s a reason that the 2Aers won’t get mad about this.
This is as racist of a dog whistle as you can get. Lots of people are aware “stop and frisk” really means “stop and frisk minorities and plant drugs and weapons when you can.”
So it’s perfectly in line with the “law and order” bullshit. Don’t expect a lot of anger about these comments. To the shitheads, these comments are directed at the “right” people. Cops wouldn’t stop and frisk them, they think, because cops know that they’re a law abiding citizen by the color of their skin.
Racists gonna fuckin racist, man.
Indeed. They see all black people as criminals, I’m sure they’re thinking “If we get him on a bullshit charge now, he can’t steal a bicycle to sell for more hoodjuice or whatever it is those rappers sing about.”
Disgraceful.
Newsflash: Dark Skin is not evidence of guilt, but try telling the cops that…
You might be able to chip a few away by calling him a “gun grabber.” They probably won’t vote for Harris, but they won’t vote for Trump either. They might just sit it out.
Chip a few away here and a few away there… that might be all that’s needed.
Gun Grabbin’ Donnie
That’s G… r… a… b… b… i… n… Apostrophe
Grab 'em by the gun. You can do anything.
Grab 'em by the Glock.
Give them the ol’ Glock twist!
Grab em by the pistols
When you’re a cop they let you do it.
They probably won’t vote for Harris, but they won’t vote for Trump either.
This is actually possible. There’s a “don’t tread on me” type that has been using their yard as a political billboard for years and i just recently noticed that while they’re still anti- our current Democrat governer, they took down their pro-Trump stuff as well. Now there’s some sign about Jill Stein that’s up but seems a lot less flamboyant.
I think we all agree on the middle path. Keep posting bc every single voter counts. And share relevant expectations with the community who may not be 100% knowledgeable of the nuance.
Gun Grabber Don? You mean the only 21st century American president to sign an unconstitutional gun ban?
Fascists don’t win on facts and logic, they win on affect.
He says one thing about guns, but means something about hurting minorities. His electorate only cares about the second part. Literally anything you could argue about the first part is worse than useless, because through sheer power of denial they’ll revert to affect on this well-practiced talking point (”Trump love guns, Trump hate [insert slur here], Trump just like me"). You can’t win on this battlefield, no matter how objectively and obviously right you are.
That’s why “Trump is weird” is so unbelievably more effective than “Trump is a rapist”, “Trump is a fascist”, “Trump is a criminal” or “Trump is a traitor”. Pointing out his weirdness directly undermines his affect. “We’re not going back” calls back to the constant feeling of dread of his presidency. Ironically when dealing with humans, but especially when dealing with fascists, affect and core values are more important and less malleable than facts.
I literally just learned the word affect like… 4 hours ago, what the fuck?
That’s the Baader Meinhof Phenomenon (AKA the Frequency Illusion) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_illusion
This is something I learned about decades ago, but never really experienced. Now I see it all the time and it’s fucking wired. The simulation is breaking down
If we in a simulation, I hope that shit breaks all the way down.
They clearly forgot to install the Livin’ Large and Makin’ Magic expansions. Can we get an afterlife and some damn wizards up in here?
To the shitheads, these comments are directed at the “right” people. Cops wouldn’t stop and frisk them, they think, because cops know that they’re a law abiding citizen by the color of their skin.
The joke is that it’s the same damned thing when Eric Adams or Beto ORourke suggests it.
Take the guns from the poors is always the subtext. You never talk about disarming the police or curtailing access to private security.
Republicans just want to be vigilantes. And they’re mad at Democrats when they can’t hunt people in their neighborhood for sport.
I’ve talked to a fair number of progressives who are perfectly fine allowing firearms ownership based solely on class and wealth. They too, want “gun control” based on class and wealth.
Yep - “the police know everyone of them”
Conservatism is “there must be outgroups for the law to bind but not protect, and in groups for the law to protect but not bind” manifests again, here.
Same reason the NRA barely made a peep about Philando Castile. Licensed to carry a gun, dutifully announced that to the officer, and got killed for it. A year later they said that was a shame or something like that and then immediately forgot about it again. White agent of the state good, black gun owner bad. The conservative gun rights movement has always been motivated by racism.
Read this comment before the article and thought it surely wouldn’t be as obvious as you’re stating.
Spoiler: with Chicago, it’s usually more obvious.
One day I will finally untangle my sense of obligation to give bigots the benefit of the doubt. Can’t wait but it’s a lot of work and self reflection.
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Every time I read a quote from this idiot it hurts my brain. I could go on about how stop and frisk is a horrible, racist policy that is a violation of basic rights, but just reading anything he says is painful. His speech is so jarring, erratic, and logically flawed. I’ve listened to average second graders express their thoughts more eloquently than this piece of garbage.
My niece was 2 years old when she said “Uncle, I’m scared of the dark, but juice is in there.”
And she wanted one of those capri-sun juice packs. I told her there’s nothing to be scared of in the garage. She can leave the door open so she can see what she’s doing, but she should get the juice herself.
I expected to have to turn on the light, and maybe even get the juice for her, but I wanted to see how long until she asked for help.
Well, she was still scared, but she walked all the way in, picked up 2 juice packs, and came back inside.
I asked what the 2nd juice pack was for. She said “I got one for you!”
It was the proudest I’d ever been as an uncle. I taught her to face her fears, and in doing so she showed that even when scared she still thinks of others.
Which is more than I can say for trump and his way of thinking. He would have made the story into some self serving story where he battles a monster in the dark, and slayed a dragon, and everybody loves him. Meanwhile what actually happened is he got some underling to bring him the juice because he was too scared.
Whereas my neice faced her fear, overcame it, and thought of others while doing it. THATS real bravery! And more human growth than trump has ever displayed. Plus I actually understood what she was trying to convay. They may have been short sentences, but they were complete sentences. Plus they didn’t drift off halfway into some racist rant. Mostly because she isn’t racist and is raised better than that.
“My juice packs are the best juice packs. I was just talking to the inventor of the juice pack, Hannibal Lector, the other day and he says to me. He says, “Donnie,” he calls me Donnie because we’re that close, Hannibal Lector and I. So Hannie, I call him Hannie because we’re, like super duperly close, closer than brothers. So he, Hannibal Lector, inventor of the juice pack, he says, “Donnie, you always have the best juice packs. I don’t know how you do it, but yours are the best juice packs, and that’s why you should be president for life.” Very smart man, Hannibal Lector. Really, really smart.”
Nice ramble of a second paragraph there.
First they came for the imaginary guns of imaginary black criminals, and I said nothing… Because I was also imagining their weapons and crimes and hiding in my little baby coward bunker of a home trying to buy bulletproof pants online that would make people think that maybe I might not have a tiny, weird penis…
The so-called “2A” brainlets support this. Since it is happening to people they hate, it is okay to infringe.
No no no, you don’t get it, it’s the
blackother guy’s gun /sThat oughta tweak his magats
The NRA is awfully quiet all of a sudden…
They’ll just reshape it to “illegals with guns”
Oh sweet. Yeah only let whites have guns, I’m sure this will play out perfectly fine
Finally a reason you yanks should vote for the clown
We’ve heard this before; he just wants to take guns from people of color.
You must think we’re stupid or something. 🥲
He has said this before and everyone forgot. Wild that the Dem VP is an avid hunter that believes in 2nd amendment, just wants background checks, while the republican candidate wants to confiscate.
Beto Moment
Nah, everyone knows he doesn’t mean white people.
He’s happy enough to vilify white “leftists” and scream about Antifa any chance he gets.
I feel like I lose iq from reading this
Well trump, it was nice knowing ya (it wasn’t) bit you’ll never never ever ever ever be president again. Tell the average Americans that you’ll take their guns away? You nuts? Tell right wing evangelical Christian redneck gun lover that you’ll take their guns away? Are you suicidal?
Anyway, fuck Trump , happy to see him go
That statement is like a supercomputer ran LLMs and voter simulations for two weeks in order to find the one sentence most perfectly crafted to drive away the most American voters.
Did fox guy really refer to him as “Mr. President” ? Isn’t that a bit weird.
They always do that. It’s a tacit admission of the Big Lie.
IIRC it’s technically proper to still use that title for former presidents, but very few actually do out of justified distaste for the man himself, along with the fact that it’s definitely not a good idea to say anything that might imply you think he’s still actually the president.
I have read it is technically true, but reliable news places won’t call them President because it’s also technically not current. In the US, apparently once someone is president, they forever have the president title.
That douche from the “ change my mind “ meme, I checked out one of his YouTube videos a while back and he called the US President Biden “former vice president Joe Biden” after he was already president. Which is so douchey, it’s kinda funny.
(He deleted all of the YouTube videos since then to force people to watch him on his grifter platform. I’m shocked. At least it’s only shitbags being grifted.)
Also isn’t it pretty uncommon for someone to lose reelection for president but be the nominee the next one? Mean most know their official politics days are over at that point so the title isn’t confusing.
That’s the normal way to address a former president. They do the same with all the other former presidents as well, this isn’t the gotcha you think it is.
Edit to prevent spam: fuck Fox
NewsLeglallyDefinedAsEntertainmentI didn’t say it was a gotcha. I said it was a bit weird, which it is.
No, addressing someone with the same convention that’s been used for literally hundreds of years is not weird.
Being obsessed with the genitals of urinating children is weird. Burning pieces of paper with a series of words you don’t like is weird. Denying basic science is weird. Bribing pornstars to hide your affairs during an election is weird. Don’t dilute the message.
Snuff has been around for hundreds of years, but using it is still weird.
I’ve only ever seen former presidents referred to as “former president” in the third person and “mister” when addressed directly.
