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This is a weird one. I speed, and so does everyone else, but nobody has the right to speed, and I cant say it necessarily would be bad to have more speeding restrictions. Im sure it would be just as abused as any other part of the law and justice system but I dont find it inherently unappealing.
I speed, and so does everyone else
Why?
Our roads are designed to make us think we can go faster than we should and localities have an incentive to keep speed limits arbitrarily low to increase fines from speeders.
Our roads are designed to make us think we can go faster than we should
localities have an incentive to keep speed limits arbitrarily low
Which is it? If speed limits are arbitrarily low then you can go faster. The fact that most people speed and the roads aren’t consistently littered with accidents seems to support that.
Um they are
Well, both.
If the road were clear around me, I could easily hold 100+ off the highway. I’ve got huge streets near me with long curves. No problem for my relatively new tires and well-maintained vehicle.
Once we add cars to the mix, I can no longer go that fast. Too many other cars, if I just weave around them, I can go fast again. Who wants all this power sitting behind a Sentra?
Yay! I’m free! Fast fast fast until more cars again. A little bob and weave… Crash.
This road is literally as wide as the highway but the speed limit is 45mph.
The road always has traffic, always construction, always debris from poorly maintained cars or accidents which means you can’t go fast but the road itself was designed for the Daytona 500. The ‘speed limit’ is set for a pace that makes 18 wheelers look fast.
So, the obvious answer said by every Suburban with scrapes on the side and Altima with paper tags is “My car isn’t going to fail or crash and in ideal conditions should have no problem redlining all the way down this thing so I should try that in five o’clock traffic.”
It’s both. They make it so you want to speed so they can generate revenue. Wide lanes and low speed limits can yield a lot of tickets
I was driving on a road like that in Scranton with a 45 mph speed limit, doing 50. For about a quarter mile, without any change in the road, it drops to 35 mph. Right in front of a police station. So the cops don’t even have to leave their station to start ticketing people.
It’s both because there is more than one kind of road.
America really likes stroads which give the impression that you can safely travel at speeds that are actually dangerous. We do that often in neighborhoods where we should be going 20-25 max but the design of the roads encourages us to drive faster. Since the speed limit is often actually at a safe speed, the issue of speeding is about the design of the road and not the speed limit.
Larger roads like highways, freeways, and expressways are designed for high-speed travel but often have speed limits that are low for the sake of revenue generation. If you’ve ever driven through a small town where the highway design doesn’t change but the speed suddenly drops from 65 to 35 you know what I mean. In those cases the problem is with the arbitrarily low speed limit as some states have raised the cap up to 80 and have not seen a substantial increase in accident-related injuries and deaths.
Connector roads often suffer from one or the other problem listed above. They are either designed to make you feel like you can go 60 when you should be going 40 or are set at 30 when you could safely go 40. The road design needs to match the safe speed by making drivers feel unsafe when they exceed that speed and not unnecessarily penalize them by not putting the limit lower than that speed.
Both of those result in speeding but have different causes.
fwiw, the roads are constantly littered with accidents and the US has the highest pedestrian fatality rate out of all “western” nations
Old, terrible road speed design methods resulting in shit like my drive to work: a long, straight road that’s wider than the nearby highway yet has a speed limit 15mph slower because…?
Usually the answer is “uncontrolled access” I.e. it has driveways and such, and not on and off ramps
I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. Speeders are assholes that put everyone in danger.
Surprised it took this long. Well, guess that means it’s time to faraday cage the 5g radios in the vehicles or find a way to create a super small jammer that can only broadcast in your car. Some sort of license plate blocker that only shows at a certain angle too.
Fuck that shit.
You can get the license plate thingies on eBay
License plate blockers are illegal in most states now because of the implementation of privately owned license plate readers that track you and sell the data back to police.
Are they trying to sell fewer vehicles?
“But if we market it as a subscription service, then surely customers will want it” - Some clueless executive
Pay to lose
What they should do is give the car owners a cut if the ticket fees. They would have people patrolling the streets to catch speeders. There also be a big uptick in vandalism of Fords. I would love to watch this experiment with some popcorn.
Dude! Yes! We definitely need more companies treating 1984 like an instruction manual. /s
it’ll be something the cops subscribe to, and car owners will have no say.
If I have to buy a “new” car someday, I’m cutting off every antenna I see.
Unable to contact servers; boot loop, car won’t start; manufacturer sues you for breaking licensing agreement with unapproved modifications
That’s why we need right to repair
And a corporate death penalty, if I had my druthers.
Classic cars for me then
my classic car is a 2005😎
Unfortunately just like your cell phone we don’t really need external antennas anymore. In a lot of cases there’s not even a wire inside you can easily cut, just traces deep on the board
What I’ve been reading about on that subject is that cars often have a Telematics Control Unit or TCU that can actually be disabled if you can find it. It’s a box that plugs in to the wiring harness. They also have antennas that could be connected by a wire that you could locate, giving us another option to disable them by just disconnecting the antenna wire. That way the TCU could still talk to the main computers but not be able to send out its data.
If it doesn’t have a wire you could always put in a little faraday cage.
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Welcome to UPS trucks.
And Amazon, and FedEx, and UPS, and DHL…
I a totally meant FedEx. But I thought they were the only ones with police contracts?
They all have telematics in their trucks, and I know they all use the data in the case of accidents to prove fault. Amazon specifically monitors speed and will fire drivers if they do it too much. Wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if they started sharing that info.
Oh yea, on the same page, it’s just that FedEx specifically have been proven to hold contracts with law enforcement, while the others have not.
Ooh yes good patent it so other manufacturers won’t do it.
Patents don’t necessarily stop other OEMs from using it. It just means they’ll have to pay Ford a fee to license it, themselves.
Ooh that’s gonna get your car keyed.
You have a strange way of writing molotov cocktailled.
I was gonna say, they are getting keyed with bullets
The key that opens anything.
Yep, it snitches on other cars!
Let’s be real, close to a majority of Americans have no issue with their iPhone being used as part of a mesh tracking network, even if it helps abusers with airtags.
All they have to do is sell this to people as benefiting them, and they will gobble it up. Hell, chances are, insurance companies will start offering reduced rates if you drive one (and then they buy the data from Ford and increase rates with it).
The massive difference between AirTags and this is that AirTags (and the whole Find My network, it’s not only AirTags after all) actually provide a useful service to each participant, namely locating their things if they get lost somewhere. This does effectively nothing for you and will only ever fuck over other people (you could argue rightfully so, but still) and provides no value to anyone other than the police.
One wonders whether instance companies will incentivize these vehicles with lower rates.
For whatever the insurance companies deem a low rate driver, sure. But you can be sure that many drivers will be paying more once their insurance company sees how much time they stare at a TikTok videos what “driving”.
Actually. I do wish that phones would fucking tattle on people who can’t be bothered to watch where they’re going while operating 2 ton Hausfraupanzers.
Instead of paying 2000 dollars a month for your shitty lifted ford ranger you pay 1500 a month for your shitty lifted ford ranger, but the car will… SHUT THE FUCK UP, WHERE DO I SIGN?
Ah classic boot licking just like ol’ henry ford
What do you mean by tha-
Only a single great man, Ford, to their fury still maintains full independence [from the control of Jewish masters]. -(Mein Kampf)
Oh. Well, shit.
Interesting. The article suggests the car would photograph others speeding rather than reporting itself.
Personally, I don’t mind speeders so much except when they’re weaving between traffic recklessly. I do really hate tailgaters though. So a rear-facing camera maybe?
How about neither
I hate speeders, i almost got shot off the road yesterday by a guy going at least 120kmh in an 80kmh zone. But trusting someone like let’s say ford to take care of that… Oh nonono
I hear you. But I can’t agree to what’s basically spying on everyone just for that. You know it would escalate into more mundane things once it’s there.
Exactly
Sooo how long before we find a way to jailbreak the thing and essentially have an on-board “give that car a ticket” button to report false speed data on any driver we happen to be pissed off at?
…yeah I’d 100% abuse the fuck out of that.
Not just a law enforcement thing, either.
Ford will absolutely, 100%, start selling this data to insurance companies, who will absolutely use it to increase rates.
us insurance sounds insane, you are forced do deal with corporations in a scammy as fuck way
How does it work elsewhere? We require doctors get malpractice insurance, and there’s growing support for making the police get liability insurance too.
I live in Estonia.
For one, car insurance depends on your basic demographics (car registration location, owner’s years of driving/insuring experience), the car’s power rating and make/model - and finally, accident history. For any type of insurance that covers your own vehicle as well, it also takes into account the age and value of the vehicle (for the mandatory liability insurance, that’s irrelevant).
For medical insurance, your prior medical history doesn’t matter, there are no premiums. Your options are (simplified, there are some others too):
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Work and have social tax paid for you by the employer (they don’t get to weasel out of this with a regular work contract)
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Be an entrepreneur and pay yourself at least the minimum monthly salary with social tax, the rest you can take out as dividends or invest into growing the company
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Be a student, including university
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Be underage (this also gives you dental! I do wish everyone got dental)
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Be registered as unemployed and at least act like you’re trying to find a job
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Have some sort of permanent disability that’s severely impacting your ability to work
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Have a child under 3 years old
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If nothing else applies to you, you can pay a certain sum which was either monthly or quarterly, to have the same health insurance (this is mostly for those entrepreneurs who don’t want to pay themselves even a minimum salary because they’re already loaded and would rather avoid paying payroll taxes on themselves and only pay income tax if/when taking out dividends). I suppose you could also do it if your income is entirely illegal and therefore untaxed.
If you hit any of these, you pay €5 per doctor’s appointment, with some exceptions. Private care is more expensive. If you don’t in any way qualify for the national medical insurance, you’ll have to pay for your procedures and stuff, but the prices are reasonable usually.
As for liability insurance for medical malpractice and the police - I’m not 100% sure, but I do believe that victims get compensated by either the hospital, or the government in the case of the police. In any case, it’s very rare for anything like this to happen luckily.
I do believe life insurance that pays out if you die prematurely or get a major injury or disease, will still depend on your medical history - or at least whether you smoke and drink alcohol.
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You do realize insurance companies were recently proven to be purchasing data secretly created from our own vehicles so they could raise rates, right? Not sure it “works” here in the US…
Why not just have a speed cap on cars?
And have it auto adjust based on the roads limit. We have gps and data for every road. Driving is a privilege not a right, nobody has the right to speed faster than the posted limit.
No speed cap yet, but all new cars sold in the EU must have a signal that alerts the driver if they’re driving faster than the current speed limit.
https://www.autoweek.com/news/a61532276/mandatory-speed-limiters-europe-cars/
I hope they make it 80dB loud and sound like nails on a chalkboard.
I’ll stop speeding when the mfs around here stop building 6 lane roads with a 30mph speed limit.
Ill stop speading when I stop having freebird play randomly.
Because it’s dangerous. Sometimes you have to exceed the speed limit to avoid a collision.
Fascist nazi fuck company. Class traitor ICE vehicles seem on point though.
That face when you allow your factories in Europe to become war machines, but not the ones in your own home.
Allegiances and all that.
You won’t buy a Ford because it’ll rat you out to the cops
I won’t buy a Ford because they’re dog shit vehicles
We are not the same
With how rarely Toyota’s break down, I hesitate to consider any other car company. Ford is near bottom of the barrel.
2002 Echo 248000 still going. Not a truck but still, go Toyota!
My Toyota is old enough to vote, and the only issue it has ever given me was a seized brake caliper. I’m convinced that it’s going to outlive the heat death of the universe.
Funny enough my girlfriend and I just got Toyota’s, so we should have reliable vehicles for the next 30 years
Lol, fuck yeah!
Hondas are fine
Yup! Wanna change your battery?
“FUCK YOU, GO TO AND PAY A DEALER CAUSE WE BURIED THAT SHIT INSIDE THE FUCKING ENGINE COMPARTMENT!” -Ford
I can’t believe no one has sued them for this anti-consumer bullshit. I don’t know anything about cars, but even I have been able to change the battery in every vehicle I have ever owned.
I rented a Ford focus once and it really was a dog shit vehicle. Every other vehicle could easily interface with my iPod but this piece of shit would need to scan the iPod for 5-10 minutes (making the head unit completely unusable in the meantime) at which point it would start playing some random song from the iPod that it bizarrely determined was first. That was the most obvious shitty design flaw, but literally every thing about the car was piss poor. If I hadn’t been against Ford already because they knowingly killed people with those defective Firestones, I would’ve completely turned against them from that one rental experience. Fuck Ford.
Cue the “I wasn’t driving, that was someone else!” Defense.