Scott Manley has a one hour video going over all of this, including the ridiculous redaction of
James Cameronproviding expert testimony by first saying he directed The Abysslol he first said he directed Titanic.
The actual interview: https://media.defense.gov/2025/Sep/17/2003800984/-1/-1/0/CG-115_INTERVIEW-DEEP-SEA-EXPLORER_REDACTED.PDF
You don’t have to get very far to realize who it is.
James Cameron is genuinely a world expert on submersibles. He made The Abyss and Titanic because he loves the deep sea
He made Titanic solely as an excuse to go down to the Titanic and film the wreck. He didn’t even have an idea for the story when he pitched the movie
Then he became the first person to ever design and dive his own submersible to Chellenger Deep, and only the second ever submersible to reach that depth (after the US Navy’s Trieste)
He’s definitely an expert, I just thought it was funny they redacted his name like we wouldn’t know who he was.
What do you mean “tragic”?
A tragedy is an event of great loss, usually of human life. Such an event is said to be tragic. Traditionally, the event would require “some element of moral failure, some flaw in character, or some extraordinary combination of elements” to be tragic.
To me this is tragic even in the Greek sense
Well, that kid didn’t ask to be there, so that’s pretty tragic.
I’d say “expected” might be a more fitting word.
Define “tragic”
Not surprising, the card was filled with… UNCOMPRESSIBLE DATA!
🫵🫅
Scientists were already able to recover footage of their final moments on the SD card
Fuck off
RIP. Tragic.
I did not expect that
So tragic to see someone speak from beyond the grave…
Spared no expense…
Kinda seems like it was the right call if it survived an implosion
Yeah, but 512 GB? That’s gotta be overwriting some data. The amount of data generated by sensors is massive.
What sensors do you think this was recording data from?
Depth, pressure, location, etc.
Dude the article is right there
But I don’t wanna.
And what do you think that polling rate was to fill up a 512 GB SD card? It’s all speculation but this isn’t a supper collider, we shouldn’t need sub second polling of a vehicle that can only move 5.6 km/h.
And even if you sampled at 10 sps, and did 50 sensors at 10b, you would still only be looking 5000bps or 5.8x10-7 GBps, meaning that it would take roughly 26 years to fill up a 512GB SD card.
While I don’t know for how long the sub had been submerged, I doubt it was close to a quarter of a century. If that was the case, I believe that we would have been talking about that as well. Even if it was 500 sensors, at 100sps at 12b we’d be looking at 79days.
IMHO there’s only a few things a 512GB SD card would be used for. And I hope it was music, because I don’t think we should watch the final moments of these people’s lives.
It’s not going to have location data. GPS doesn’t work under even very shallow water.
Nobody said GPS (except for you). Location data does not mean GPS.
Ok, so tell me how you are going to get a location fix underwater, in the dark, with no landmarks to orient yourself, in constantly shifting currents?
Even the Navy’s most advanced nuclear submarine have to surface to get their location.
It was in a camera.
Tragic?
Yeah we should build a bigger submarine that fits more billionaires. But no kids this time.
There were kids in it…? Christ :(
One was a kid, one was a person who spent a chunk of her life saving for a ticket.
Most of them were just regular people.
There were no women on the submersible.
Over 18, but still young enough to not be predestined to become like the other billionaires I guess.
and he didn’t want to go, or I’m mixing things?
His mom refused to go and tried to convince the dad to cancel the trip.
Yeah. One of the rich guys brought his son. Reported as “university aged” but still.
Over 18, but he was the only one that doesn’t want to be there. He was scared but didn’t want to disappoint his father. That poor kid and his mother. Can’t imagine how she must feel. This is why being a good parent takes more than resources. I would never want a relationship with my kids where they felt pressured into doing something just to make me happy. I’d hope I’d make different decisions as a father if I was in that situation. My son openly tells me about his hesitant feelings towards an objectively dangerous trip, I’m not making him go at the very least. And I’m probably not going myself because me and my son can do something else together.
Quote from his mother on giving up her seat to her son - BBC News:
“Then I stepped back and gave them space to set [Suleman] up, because he really wanted to go,” she said.
No, the “kid” was 19
Time to order a few SanDisk cards
And build a submarine of them.
Cmon buddy it was inside a camera rated for 6000 meters the only reason to mention the brand in the headline is because the article is bought and paid for. Be better
Don’t buy SanDisk, they are garbage. I already have 3 SanDisk SSDs that failed and I only had 3 in total. One was a WD branded one I got after my SanDisk failed. Turns out that WD bought SanDisk and I unkowingly bought that garbage again.
I recommend this great video from Scott Manley on the NTSB report :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMUjCZ7MMWQ
He also has a previous video that is more speculative before the report but very interesting anyway.
“Somewhat disappointingly, the images and videos shared in the report were taken in the vicinity of the ROV shop at the Marine Institute”
There, saved you a long read
I would never have gone in a submarine called the Tragic anything.
In this context Tragic was a title earned for their efforts. It’s like King Charles knighted the Titan, but since it was neither a Sir or Dame, it joined Titanic with the pronoun Tragic
I always thought allowing someone called Ethelred the Unready to rule England was a clear unforced error.
“Comedic” is a better title for this than “Tragic”.
I want to call mine “the five” but in spanish
Be funnier for a surface boat
let’s be honest the biggest boat i’ll ever have is a 7 foot tin dinghy
But you’ll have a submarine?
my family uses “[being] on the submarine” as a euphemism for answering the phone on the toilet so i’m getting a little giggle out of this question
stockton is also the city in california its named after his family i believe. like the city, its a "shthole.
“Tragic” - it was the titan. The SpeedLink controller controlled “submarine” (more like a glorified Pepsi can) whose operator did not follow protocol and therefore relieved the world of four money-hoarders.
I would feel bad if we had to kill a very young adult and respectable frenchman for every three asshole-rich fat cats. Maybe I’m wrong about the frenchman, but I don’t recall him being rich, just the ‘expert’ on the dive. I think tragic still applies for them.
Well, he was probably “rich” in that he has acquired his own wealth, but I don’t think that’s what you mean.
They should have built the hull out of SanDisk cards.
Or old school Nokias…
I still have one of those. I use it to split bricks when I’m putting up a wall.
Bricks? I used mine to process diamonds. Cracked them up real good. It still had its shine, too.
I’d go for a mix of 50% sd cards and 50% controllers. Maybe 40/60, science is not decided yet.
Unfortunately it only had older still photos and videos, nothing from the last dive. Looks like they had the camera configured to send the data to the onboard computers and those were smashed into a soild mass, of which, no data was able to be recovered from.
Spoiler: Nothing about the big boom or that trip was on it (as designed, lol), but it’s cool that it survived.
There’s probably an expensive helium mechanical drive somewhere down there that suddenly found itself to be considerably smaller than it started out.
They used 3 mini PCs with SSDs, which all of them were completely smashed and unrecoverable. the flash chips were all cracked or missing.
