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Damn it, Tylenol!
I really wonder if leftists really are this brainwashed to parrot such an obviously incorrect narrative. The answer is “yes, they are this brainwashed.”
Except literally the meme plays out every single time.
He has a Trump Vance sign on his fence. Right wing extremism is a real serious problem https://scallywagandvagabond.com/2025/09/thomas-tom-jacob-sanford-michigan-lds-church-shooter-decorated-war-veteran-trump-supporter/
I saw the twin full size American flags on the back of the truck and I instantly pegged him as a MAGA nutter.
It’s really not hard to spot this particular brand of mental illness.
Narcissistic rage
your comment is extra funny when maga folks listen to fox religiously, which is literally a propaganda outlet for trump.
Bro, the shooter’s truck has two American flags, and his house has a Trump/Vance campaign sign.
You can’t sidestep this one. Sorry. MAGA dealt this one, not leftists
And actually, MOST homicides and mass shootings in the US are caused by right wing nutjobs. Don’t listen to Fox News’ propaganda
Learn how to read yet?
The reports I read said the shooter had trump signs at his house. He’s maga for sure https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/thomas-jacob-sanford-trump-supporter-michigan-grand-blanc-church-shooters-political-affiliation-democrat-or-republican-101759091935370.html
Do you really think a MAGA’t wank stain is going to trust a paper with Hindu in the name?
Lol
He has a Trump/vance sign on his fence https://scallywagandvagabond.com/2025/09/thomas-tom-jacob-sanford-michigan-lds-church-shooter-decorated-war-veteran-trump-supporter/
No way, mass shooters are never on the far right!
The Hindustan Times probably isn’t a trustworthy source. Especially in this political climate, I’d recommend not believing anything you haven’t seen from multiple sources.
MSN reports he has Trump/pence shirt in photo and trump/vance sign
Fair. Also here is that MSN article.
Ok genuinely trying to understand what you’re saying here. You say “narrative” but that implies that someone is writing a story. Can you please be specific?
Someone hasn’t been paying attention to where a vast majority of political violence comes from.
What leftists are shooting right wingers you fucking moron open your goddamn eyes fuck
The impact spread quickly to neighboring communities, including the small city that shares a name with the township.
“Although we are two separate governmental units, we are a very cohesive community,” said city of Grand Blanc Mayor John Creasey. “This sort of thing is painful for our entire community. I’m struggling to digest all that has happened, and my heart goes out to all of the affected families.”
Nervous reporter calls wrong number by mistake, feels obliged to put comment in story anyway, more at 11
The other kind of mass shooting.
That’s catholic. This was Mormon. Pretty funny anyway. (The joke, not the shooting.)
Sparkling massacre?
And again, to the disappointment of the MAGA heads, it is one of theirs, not a leftie.
And he was shooting their own too.
I bet they weren’t happy when that guy knocked on their door.
(I know, I know, terrible joke, but someone had to say it)
My Mormon mother died about a month ago.
Pity, I cant shove this in her face as evidence that her bigoted dogma was always hypocritical.
Don’t forget to pick up your free thoughts and prayers. Now, nearly all of them are 100% made in the US. Looking good, the United States of America. We’re number one in another thing that’s horrible to be ranked high in, around the world.
Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer said in a statement that her heart was breaking for the community. “Violence anywhere especially in a place of worship, is unacceptable,” she said.
Governor Gretchen Whitmer pointedly declined to use the word “genocide” on a Sunday morning news show to describe the war in Gaza and the massive Palestinian civilian death toll as Israel tries to eliminate Hamas. … Michigan has one of the nation’s largest Arab-American and Muslim-American populations.
“I’m watching this very closely and doing what I can to support all of these communities here in Michigan,” Whitmer said.
Huh.
So I guess is acceptable, sometimes.
Thou shalt not kill*
Man, it’s crazy how not using the word genocide in April of 2024, not saying it wasn’t a genocide but simply not saying it was while also calling it terrible, is both clearly communicating that she supports killing Palestinians and also super timely and extremely relevant to an attack a year and a half later.
Western liberals have always been like this.
Western society is predicated on some people being more human than others (but, but my enlightenment values. ha)
Christian institutions tied themselves into knots to morally justify the horrors of the colonial era and Atlantic slave trade. The conclusion they reached is some people are just more peopley than others. These people being Christians.
Western attitudes towards human rights, egalitarianism etc are a direct extension of this era. Patting themselves on the back on being the chosen people and treating their own well while treating others like they’re the scum of the Earth.
Wait wait wait wait. Mormons?
So it’s just another example of the biggest threat to conservatives is themselves.
Pretty likely that it was a POC. Buckle up everyone.
After the suspect left the church, two officers pursued him and “engaged in gunfire,” Renye said. The man was killed.
Is that based on anything or are you just racist?
I think its a joke about how if the shooter was white, they’d have taken him alive. The shooter is from a town that’s 80% white, so…
Went right over my head
I’m pretty sure pelespirit doesn’t joke
You’re right, it wasn’t a joke, but the sentiment is correct.
The sentiment that you are spreading lies?
The mod thought I was being racist, but it’s the opposite. If the the shooter is a person of color, they are 99% killed by racist cops. If the shooter is white, it’s 50/50. I’m not joking, it’s the way it seems. I’d love for a study to be done on it. Do you know of one?
If the shooter was not white it would be in every headline.
Proof Of Concept?
Piece Of Cheese?
Prompt Or Circumstances?
Yeah, the vehicle in question definitely screams “PoC” and not “white fucknugget.” /s
What’s that on top of the cab? Something or debris?
Appears to be bricks
Notice the Iraq on the plate.
https://www.michigan.gov/sos/vehicle/license-plates/military-and-veteran-plate-options
Mentally ill veteran goes on a shooting rampage after massive cuts to the department of veterans affairs. Absolutely could not be related in any way…
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/25/politics/veterans-affairs-doctors-warning-letter
Yeah, it’s confirmed he was a veteran:
What exactly are you basing that on?
The parishioners have commented that they didnt know the guy, that he had camo pants on, came in with an assault rifle, and that the truck the suspect drove into the church with had a bunch of American flags on it.
The suspect lives in Burton (~90% white) which is even less diverse than Grand Blanc (~80% white), and with shootings at religious institutions, they are usually closely linked to that church (which is currently being investigated).
Edit: The truck used apparently had an Iraqi Conflict veteran license plate, in addition to what I mentioned above.
I got the joke.
It wasn’t really a joke. It’s going to turn into a mess if it is, by the right wingers turning it into something. I get why the mod removed it though.
Pelespirit back again with no sources.
Admittedly did not read the article yet. This is my prediction:
Willing to put money on this being a conservative that is getting revenge on Mormons because of the Kirk killing being in Utah.
Hey, let’s maybe wait a bit before even reading anything this time. AP itself is quite trustworthy IMO, but the sources themselves often aren’t - AP reports what it finds out, but they get their data from police, FBI, etc - not a single link in the chain is infallible, which is why it’s best to wait till a bit more is known.
With the Kirk shooter, first he was trans, then he was a groyper, and then later on it turned out he has a trans girlfriend and he was sick of the hate Kirk was spewing. Hell, maybe even THAT isn’t the final version. The first one was super comfy for conservatives to believe, the second version was super comfy for the left to believe, and the final version… Honestly again, sounds a bit too convenient. So we’ll see.
Honestly, I hope they all just take each other out
My guess is the dude had some kind of a massive crash out after an argument with his wife.
I come from white trash.
I know how this tends to work.
That being said: total guess, in the sense that I do not have any actual evidence to back up or corroborate this idea.
I will though note that it is odd that… well, with Kirk’s shooter, we hear all about and from family members and roommates/partners, anyone related to the person… because everyone wants this info so as to attempt to create a narrative/motive, whether trying to do this objectively or in an obviously biased way.
This guy?
Maybe I’ve missed it but I’ve not seen or heard a single mention of any LE contacting his family or media outlets getting any statements from amybody he knew.
But this also has not stopped a good chunk of right wing people from doing the most pathetically transparent motivated reasoning I’ve seen in a while.
Tyler Robinson was raised Mormon so this might very well be the reason.
So it’s the left fault!?!??
/s
In their mind? Yeah? Probably. 🙄
Oh hell, I wonder if the guy that did this did it because the guy that helped Kirk achieve his objective was Mormon.
Here we go again. Monday Monday is going to be rough in my news circles
Thoughts and, ehem, prayers