The new take: “Epstein was a popular rich guy, everyone knew him and wished him well! It doesn’t mean they ‘knew’ him! Nobody knew what he and Ghislane were up to!”
But it doesn’t matter. The oligarchs don’t pay for their crimes. They don’t even get charged. Do you want to see them pay? I hear there’s a discount on pitchforks recently seeing as there’s nobody to work the fields.
No oppressors ever walked away peacefully at the request of the oppressed. Just sayin’
The new take: “Epstein was a popular rich guy, everyone knew him and wished him well! It doesn’t mean they ‘knew’ him! Nobody knew what he and Ghislane were up to!”
Not exactly “new”. The recognition that guilt by association is a fallacy and a hallmark of an undeveloped, irrational mentality has been around for a while. The unsound indulgence of biases such as confirmation bias & emotional reasoning is justly criticized.
If you want to discredit your position though, and make serious inquiry look bad so people can point at you & say
See? These people are irrational! How can we take them seriously?
then this is a great way to do it.
Throw him and Trump in the same cell at pedo prison.
Hang them from the same gibbet, I say.
Lock Slick Willie up as well! Throw all these fucks in jail. Regardless of party or status.
Are the words “if there’s enough evidence of a crime” implied or deliberately omitted?
Funny how only one party agrees with you. With us.
What party is that? Democrats sat on these Epstein files too. They weren’t important again until Biden left office.
then people wonder why no one votes for Kang or Kudos any more.
Lock him up if there’s enough evidence of a crime. After going after Trump. I don’t care about party or celeb status if they did such things.
Cool, he can share a cell with Trump
Did Clinton draw a pubescent girl for the birthday book and then sign it?
Also, were they besties?
Lock them all up
Trump first though. Right now, he is doing a shit ton of harm.
Jesus. What did he just show him on the computer? “Hey Jeff, c’mere you won’t believe it. It’s a show called cuties.”
Is that credible evidence of a crime?
Can anyone read lips? What are they saying?
… and justice for all. lol
Frankly, I don’t even think Hillary gives a shit about covering for Bill at this stage- The argument that anyone is trying to protect Bill is idiotic.
I don’t know if that was a marriage of convenience/business since the beginning, but it sure seems to have got there eventually.
And if she did give a shit about covering for Bill in the past and did anything to meaningfully do that, then by all means, lock her up too.
This shouldn’t be political. I don’t care if there was a stupid slogan for that chanted by idiots, a broken clock can be right sometimes.
Like giving us the sitting POTUS as a candidate in the first place? Worshipping at the altar of Kissenger and Nunn? Color revos? Or any number of things during her tenure as Secretary of State?
Those are political things. Those are things she should have been voted out of power for, not locked up for.
I was thinking more along the lines of the “helping cover up pedophilia and human trafficking” thing. That’s a crime worthy of prison time.
She was voted out of power. And then we got Trump.
I’m no fan of Clinton, but rather a million times her than Trump. But the US clearly needs better candidates.
Certainly, she would have been a better president than Trump. But that’s damning with extremely faint praise. A rotten turnip would have been a better president than Trump.
I’ve long tried to tell Americans that they need to spend their effort on the party primaries, that’s the last chance for actual options to be considered. Once you get to the election itself the only thing left to evaluate is “which is the lesser evil?”
When the campaign started in 2015, I thought Clinton vs Bush would be the worst lineup ever. I had no idea then that an even worse one was possible.
I don’t know how Americans always manage to get the worst possible candidates winning their primaries.
Those are things she should have been voted out of power for, not locked up for.
Everything is political, my friend. She should absolutely face consequences for her role in the heinous war crimes committed while she was secretary of state.
We’ve got literal piles of active Nazis and you want to go after Hillary for doing status quo shit.
Yeah, okay. Let me add her to the list. I think I’ve got a spot here at #187.
Don’t worry, I want to go after the fascists. But I reject the assertion that making life worse for Americans is somehow more morally wrong than making life worse for Libyans. In fact, I will go so far as to say that if you are willing to hand wave away atrocities as “status quo shit” then it makes sense that fascism is where things end up.
But making life worse for more groups is objectively more morally wrong than making life worse for fewer groups.
Right? The time when there might have been some kind of large amount of people wanting to cover for him was maybe…2 and half decades ago? The guy isn’t in power, no one cares enough for any of that…
It’s mostly the butthurt cons that were spreading black helicopter nonsense and swapping copies of the Clinton Body Count over email back in the 90s that are still obsessed with Bill (and Hillary).
Frankly I love this, because now we get to watch the conservatives squirm.
Is Bill Clinton a pedo for associating with Epstein? Or are they going to walk back all of their statements and say Clinton did nothing wrong writing a sex trafficker a birthday card?
All the Democrats I know are fine with locking him up if evidence against him surfaces, but boy howdy is it gonna do a number on the conservatives in my life.
The hypocrisy and inconsistency is on purpose.
They. Do. Not. Care
Fer muh econoME
Which has also been objectively worse under Republicans for the last 70+ years
Frankly I love this, because now we get to watch the conservatives squirm.
They really aren’t squirming. We have to stop letting the stupid algorithms and memes we subscribe to color our thinking about the reality of social divides.
The right broadly is happy as pigs in shit right now. They DO NOT CARE about Epstein or any of the other “scandals” broadly. They’re just happy their angry, orange Jesus is making the nasty, nasty liberals and trans kids cry. They wanted all of this, they don’t care about crime and law and consistency and leadership and the economy and policy. They just care about the narrative and the narrative they are hooked into right now is that the left broadly is screaming in rage and they LOVE IT.
There are some here and there who are really uncomfortable and it may be a wedge issue for them, but don’t get fooled by amplified minority voices on any topic.
The minority voices here are more important than you think. The hardcore MAGA base is not that big, and they need more mainstream conservatives to go along with it–the ones who say “I hate Trump, but Hillary/Biden/Kamala would be worse”. You start cleaving away pieces of MAGA, and it will fall apart as a political movement.
now we get to watch the conservatives squirm.
If they weren’t shameless hypocrites, yeah. You really think they’ll have any issue saying Clinton is a pedo for associating with Epstein, while in the same breath saying Trump did nothing wrong for that exact same thing?
Didn’t you hear? He was an FBI informant.
to them, trump can do no wrong, so anything he does gets excused. they’ll happily tear down others for doing the same things that trump did. trump humpers don’t operate on logic
Fuckin’ great, lock his old ass up too.
Throwback, also, to the Lemmy fake-leftist who was pretending that back in the 1990s him and all his activist friends were super excited for Bill Clinton and all his leftist politics, and lecturing me about how far the Democratic Party has fallen since then. Fuckin’ what lol. I was around for it, literally 0 of us were as excited about Bill Clinton and his balanced budget as this guy was pretending that him and all the left were back then.
The good thing about both parties hating progressives is that no one circles the wagons to protect progressives.
Anthony Weiner was immediately persona non grata when his allegations came out.
Progressive perverts get no protection because both parties want them gone, so there’s no backlog.
Meanwhile, republicans and centrists alike participated in a culture of protecting reprehensible predators in order to hold on to power that might otherwise be vested in people who give a shit about the poor.
There is some credit to be given in that no one seems to be circling the wagons for clinton now, but he’s already served his purpose: 8 years of triangulating with the right.
Wonder how many centrists are sitting in awkward silence and how much of the “fine, lock clinton up too” sentiment is coming from progressives.
War criminal is also a pedophile. What a surprise.
The same release also includes confirmation of the Trump “wonderful secret” note that he claimed was a hoax, and is currently suing the WSJ for billions for reporting on.
Wonder if he’ll withdraw the lawsuit, or whether the whole thing was just another “it’s not a bribe, it’s a settlement” scam.
Wonder if he’ll withdraw the lawsuit
Doubt it.
He will toss out as many roadblocks for as long as possible to continue to threaten the WSJ and try and delay any further releases from them or any other media.
Polarizing tribals: “Its blue! Its red! Its the left! Its the right!”
Me, since like forever:
top-notch meme. carry on.
Plus, the guy was way wrapped up in financing stuff, which just attracts other money-grubbing people anyway. Same with Harvey Weinstein, where they use the money and cloud of flies buzzing around them as the cover if they get caught. They use the ones that didn’t know about their crimes as protection. Fully disgusting, but such is the thrall of money I suppose.
“Thrall of money” can be rearranged to spell “holy lemon fart”.
Every now and then I see a phrase and wonder about anagrams. Really paid off this time.
You okay?
Yes? I just like puzzles, and anagrams of about 9-15 letters are fun to play with. I didn’t just look at the original phrase and immediately know the anagram, but I am least proud to say I found it by “hand”, without computer assistance (beyond, technically, using a notes app as a workspace).
Edit: My phone let me misspell some Ps as Os, and I was missing an aopstrpohe.
Holy Lemon Fart, Batman! That’s a great anagram!
Heh, we happen to have gotten caught up in two different posts’ comments back to back (from my perspective).
It’s Lemmy. There are literally dozens of us!
is that Limoncello? No, I farted
Farts are never not funny, even the lemony ones.
Bill Clinton was an FBI informant infiltrating the cabal of shadowy pedophiles. I will literally die for Bill Clinton. See source.
XcQ, Electric Boogaloo.
Surely someone’s uploaded a Rickroll video with a thumbnail that hides what it is.
It’s 2025 and I’m still falling for a Rickroll
Thwarted by Sync’s previews.
Boooooo
Voyager saves the day also:
Boooooooooo (Boost is really missing features, huh)
You got me good. I applaud you sir.
Almost rage replied until I saw the thumbnail.
