The announcement follows Newsom’s 2024 executive order, which directed encampment cleanups after a U.S. Supreme Court ruling granted state and local governments more authority to remove them.

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    Fuck Newsom for this, and all his regressive vetoes against laws throughout his tenure as governor to help fix this issue.

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      The governor’s office stated that the task force will prioritize sites deemed unsafe and collaborate with local governments to connect individuals with shelter, health care and substance use services.

      You didn’t Read the article.

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          You Tell me how NOT giving medical help, food, shelter and offer addiction recovery is improving things.

          People without housing aren’t props to make you feel better about how you live your life.

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            Oh boy I sure love the idea of violently destroying someone’s home with no plan in place for any extra service or place for them to go. Just hand them a brochure for the exact same services that have failed them for years.

            Unless you have a fucking home to move them into you should not be clearing these encampments.

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            It sounds like they plan to clear the camps and dump the people on the (already strained) local support systems without giving any extra funding or infra to those support systems.

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        Why is it never the fault of the Democrats for constantly picking a lesser evil, but still evil character? Who are we appealing to with that? The moderately evil people? Brother the elections are years away, why are you so excited to throw your entire life and hope behind the first piece of shit who decided to swing?

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        if he’s candidate for president, just let the GOP win again

        If he’s nominated, the GOP will win again. No matter how much you scold people who you don’t want to have any standards. Do better or lose. Those are your options and I’m certain you’ll choose the latter.

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          GOP will win again because this tactic of rage baiting dems on titles alone is still working. No one here read the article and just reacted to the title.

          This is what happened the first two times. Despite so much studies reporting on this exact manipulation of elections and we learned nothing.

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            You have chosen the latter.

            The political reality that existed when Clinton earned her loss, Biden barely squeaked in despite not earning his win, and Harris earned her loss is still present. More of the same will result in more of the same.

            Newsom is more of the same. Centrists can’t win anymore. Betraying the vulnerable and triangulation with republicans isn’t acceptable any longer.

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              Nope. It’s all down to media and now these watered down brains in here are so easily triggered by a title and refuse to sit down, calm down and do their part in voting and being educated further than this tiktok shit tactic.

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                It’s all down to media and now these watered down brains in here are so easily triggered by a title and refuse to sit down, calm down and do their part in voting

                No matter what shit you throw at them? I mean, I get that you liked the last three candidates and want another one just like them, and that’s fine since you’re so determined to keep losing.

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        Fuck him with a garden rake for running for President. The Democratic party will not survive another President of that mold. If he wins, get ready for President Stephen Miller and the end of all things in 2032.

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          I can see you just raged at the rage bait title and didn’t bother to read the article.

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            None of what I said had was commentary on the article. I was responding to a comment. I’m already quite familiar with Newsom’s track record. He’s just another establishment lizard person who should be laughed out of the presidential primary.

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          Based on what exactly? Your feefees? Look at you using descriptive words beyond rage baiting titles on other people and yet somehow you’re above it? I smell bullshit.

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            Look, asshole, based on my experience living in California. Based on my ability to read newspapers with a critical eye. “Oh, well yes they are going to use police to sweep homeless encampments, but don’t worry, it will be paired with housing and supportive services!” Do you know how long it takes to build the kind of infrastructure that second part requires? Newsom can’t simply snap housing and rehab slots into existence, but he can snap police raids into existence, so that’s what he’ll do.

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              Besides overhauling the economy to better suit everyone, which Newsom has little control over, what other policies and tactics would you like to see used instead?

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                How about don’t crow about abusing the most disadvantaged people in our communities, while pretending you’re solving anything?

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                  Certainly you just have more to say on this. There’s quite a history of California combating homelessness. What programs and tradeoffs have you seen that you prefer? There is diversity within the homeless community. How did you like to see the different groups managed?

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    This sounds an awful lot like Louisiana…

    Relocation begins: Jeff Landry’s administration clears New Orleans homeless encampments

    Louisiana coerced unhoused people into an unheated warehouse – and paid $17.5m for it

    It started out as needing to clear everyone out allegedly for security reasons bc of the Bourbon street attacks and the Superbowl, but everyone assumed he was trying to just slap a coat of paint on the city. Then it happened again when there was a big Taylor Swift concert, now it’s like every time “we have company” we should just understand Landry will be rounding up homeless people to make the city more presentable.

    People keep saying Newsome is just doing this kind of shit to prove he’s a centrist Democrat but I’m kinda starting to worry it might be a little more sinister than that.

    Word of advice for California, be very cautious about allowing any state police or task force to permanently or semi permanently set up in your cities. If it gets proposed push back as loud and hard as you legally can, no matter what you local government might indicate about it.

    Homeless sweep ahead of Taylor Swift concert reveals conflict between city, Troop NOLA

    Troop NOLA: What we know about the new Louisiana State Police troop in New Orleans

    Mayor LaToya Cantrell ‘in alignment’ with Gov. Jeff Landry’s crime plan for New Orleans

    And if you can’t stop it from happening make sure your city hammers out even the most obscure details in a contract. If you’re not sure if you need to bother with getting it in writing, you do.

    New Orleans council member pushes city to enter agreement get written agreement on homeless sweeps with State Police

    I changed the original headline bc it’s misleading. It makes it sound like the contract was something city council wanted bc they wanted homeless sweeps. The city pushed for a formal contract bc State police were just doing it without any say from the city on how they rounded people up or where they took them.

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      Maybe he can send trans people to gulags too. After all, Newsom’s message seems to be “Hey, I heard you like fascists… vote for me! I’m a fascist too!”

      Experience has shown that trying to out-fascist the fascists always works really well for centrists. Anything but the compassionate, progressive politics people desperately want.

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      Trump has started going after the homeless. I can see Newsome taking action to keep Trump from declaring it an issue in California and sending in the National Guard and or the military. This may be a preemptive measure to address some radical moves by the current federal administration.

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        Trump has started going after the homeless. I can see Newsome taking action to keep Trump from declaring it an issue in California and sending in the National Guard and or the military.

        He was going after the homeless before trump took office.

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    Encampment sweeps kill.

    https://www.propublica.org/article/portland-homeless-deaths-multnomah-county

    But although the city spent roughly $200,000 per homeless resident throughout that time, deaths of homeless people recorded in the county quadrupled, climbing from 113 in 2019 to more than 450 in 2023, according to the most recent data from the Multnomah County Health Department. The rise in deaths far outpaces the growth in the homeless population, which was recorded at 6,300 by a 2023 county census, a number most agree is an undercount…

    These deaths came during the same period that Portland began a two-pronged response to public pressure over homelessness. City leaders began moving homeless people out of public view by removing tents at a rate far surpassing those of its West Coast peers. Since 2021, it carried out 19,000 sweeps, and it dismantled over 20 encampments per day in 2024, according to city records.

    At the same time, the city reduced money for stable permanent housing while dramatically increasing its investment in temporary shelters…

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      How is a city spending $200k per homeless resident and still not providing them with housing?

      That’s more than 8 years’ worth of rent/mortgage at $2k per month. And even longer in a more reasonably-priced home.

      I understand there are more expenses than just rent, but I also understand that it’s nearly impossible to get a job if you don’t have a permanent residence. If we’ve got a homelessness crisis that includes working families, why wouldn’t the states want to help those families?

      A rent/mortgage assistance program seems like it would do a lot more long-term good than simply “cleaning up” encampments.

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      The system isn’t perfect, but California is one of the better states about funding relief programs for the homeless. The major issue is that the weather there is nicer than the surrounding mountainous/desert regions so they are a funnel for the homeless population. South Park made a lot of jokes about this years ago. The real estate value in California is way too high and the only way to fix it is by legislating it away.

      Houses are for living, not speculation. -IYKYK

      We need to treat the homeless like the UN treats refugees and build tent cities with organized work/training/healthcare. I just don’t see how we can do this without the optics being horrible.

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        Houses are for living, not speculation.

        The US making any moves like China would result in one of the biggest crashes this country has ever seen. It’s politically toxic without a revolution or a crash and neither party would pursue it because the upper middle class would revolt if their “wealth” in housing equity would disappear. Even China can’t fully commit.

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          For a lot of folks their equity is the only savings they have. And those folks are a lot more politically active and pay more taxes and donate to campaigns so politicians care more about them.

          It’s gonna be hard to get this passed without a lot of carve outs and/or backlash.

          Maybe adding a homestead personal income tax credit for folks who owned their home prior to the new law with a gradually applied cap on it to mitigate the loss of equity for people who only own one home.

          But without a ban on corporate ownership of homes it might not help much.

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      He must think he can win Republican votes. The right wing of the Democratic Party still doesn’t get it.

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      This isn’t new, he was a on a propaganda roll, and lots of people won’t even see this.

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        I know, and am aware, but that’s not the point here. The thing is, he has a good standing at the moment, and people tend to forget the bad things immediately. Just look at Trump. I expected him to ride the wave and use it for his own campaign. But instead, he decided to revert back to his old behavior and be a dick about it.

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      He’s been “doing this” for years dude. He dresses it up with fancy language but homeless camp sweeps have been happening in CA for a long time and have been ordered by him through executive order, driven by his rich NIMBY donors.

      https://www.gov.ca.gov/2024/07/25/governor-newsom-orders-state-agencies-to-address-encampments-in-their-communities-with-urgency-and-dignity/

      Despite surveys in 2023 showing sweeps resulted in police citations as of often as offers for housing he continued with criminalizing homelessness, encouraging local governments to create anti camping ordinances in 2024 (aka criminalizing homelessness)

      https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-12-14/homeless-camp-sweeps-result-in-police-citations-as-often-as-housing-offers-survey-finds

      Flip sides of the same coin. He can play the part because he is basically trump with decorum and slightly different masters. Trump sold out to the extreme right white nationalist fascist crowd, Newsom sold out to the corporate world fascist crowd. If Silicon Valley decides that lgbt support is bad for business Newsom will flip flop (see his appearance on the charlie kirk podcast, testing the waters). He will always back things that fuck over workers and benefit the corporate class.

      vote blue no matter who though. Unless it’s someone from the dsa or psl that actually represents your interests of course, then of course the democrat leadership can’t possibly endorse the candidate and will split the vote because they’d rather potentially hand the election to a republican than give you a candidate that serves your interests instead of their donors. But remember, if you don’t vote for them you’re a fucking tankie piece of shit

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          “He could be a rock star if he hid who he was briefly to win the election then went back to serving corporate interests, souring people on the democratic side even more and sending them to the republicans or to not voting at all”

          Like listen to yourself. You sound like the victim of domestic abuse. “It’s going to be different this time!”. He’s not going to change honey, you gotta leave and find someone that’s actually good for you

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          Undermine himself with whom? He knows that primaries aren’t honest and that party leadershit decides. He’s trying to appeal to them.

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        These comments make it so clear no one is actually fighting for change they are fighting to go back to not caring about politics. Newsom will throw trans people under the bus and the blue maga will tell us that it’s better than what Trump was doing as he continues on the same path. He’ll kill homeless people by the thousands but it will be ok because at least it’s not trump.

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      Keep complaining, but also when the system gives us the option between fascism and radical centrism, I’m going to hold my nose and vote for the radical centrist.

      But I’m also going to continue voting in other races, protesting, lobbying my representatives, and trying to effect change in other ways. You should too. Voting in the presidential race is not the start and end of activism.

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    Bluemaga won’t care. We told yall this is who he is. Immiserating the homeless is what he does for fun.

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    Here’s hoping that AOC or some other progressive wins the white house. Newsom, while better than Trump, is still shit.

    As for Cali, I am hoping for Katie Porter or likeminded folk to take leadership when Newsom vacates his office. The homeless and everybody else needs help from someone who genuinely gives a damn.

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      he had so little influence after his sf mayorship, he tried to get elected a couple times statewide, but hes just not good overall. plus he doesnt really capture people outside of montery or rich people anyways.

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      Would bet cash money the DNC selects- I mean uh he fairly wins the DNC primary for next election cycle lol.

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    You see, that’s why I just can’t get behind this guy. Sometimes he is on point, other times he is a complete fuckhead. At least he isn’t full-time fuckhead like basically every republican, but that isn’t saying a hell of a lot.

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      He’s never in point. He made some tweets, then he made a knockoff Trump store hoping people would be dumb enough to buy that shit.

      He’s a scumbag though and through, only interested in advancing his career.

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      If he fights back against Trump, he’s an ally. That doesn’t make him a friend.

      See also: Liz Cheney.

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        Don’t get me wrong, if he ends up being the candidate, he gets my vote, but I’m gonna complain the whole time. Just wish we had better choices than hard-right and right-lite.

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        That’s dumb. He’s not an ally and neither is Cheney, and Kamala lost because she embraced a right wing crowd (including Liz Cheney, heh) instead of rejecting them, and you’re making the same mistake again.

        Not as bad as Trump but still fascist isn’t good enough, these people are not your allies, they want the same things Trump wants but without giving him all the benefits. Their only problem with Trump is that he wants to have all the toys to himself.