I’m not saying the worst, otherwise I would need to include the star wars sequels or transformers movies… Just some really dumb movie that somehow got praised.

For me has to be Ready played one. That movie message is so “uhuh” obvious that is stupid, the whole nerd that saves the world in a thing that otherwise would be useless to know in real life… The so over the top evil gaming corporation. The whole 80s and 90s movies and games references get old after half an hour… And it’s so pandering towards the geeks and nerds, they really want the viewer feeling really cool for knowing that is the Shining hallway, or that is a Monty python reference… Or look a GUNDAM! YOU’RE SO COOL FOR COLLECTING THOSE GUN PLA! Look we have also overwatch and halo in the background! You’re so cool modern gamer!

Also the obviously attractive “nerd” hacker girl that thinks she’s ugly and deformed for having a small hard to see red tint in one side of her pretty face… Cmon man. In no universe anybody, inducing her, would think that actress is ugly.

And the message at the end is so hilarious: Look man, you’re cool for getting these references and being a real gamer is cool, but go outside more!

Is like the creators have no self awareness.

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    James Cameron’s Titanic. It’s marketed as a romantic film, but the moment you start looking at other aspects of the movie, it just seems stupid. The antagonist is so cartoonishly evil, it’s a wonder they didn’t give him a mustache to twirl.

    And then there’s the ending. Oh dear lord, the ending. Spoiler warning and all that: at the end of the movie, The Titanic s(t)inks and the passengers try to get to safety. Rose finds a floating door or something to stay afloat and finds Jack swimming in the freezing ocean. Then Jack makes the most non-sensical decision in the entire movie: he sacrifices his own life for no good reason. The plot frames it as a necessary sacrifice, but it totally IS unnecessary, because there was enough room on the stupid door for two people. And then we flash forward to the present, where Rose is old, but still has that gem she wore throughout the movie… and then she tosses it into the ocean. WHY.

    Basically the plot boils down to: two young people have a fling on a boat and then the boat sinks. It absolutely did NOT deserve all those academy awards it got that year.

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      People are STILL bringing up the “there’s enough room” arguments?

      The movie LITERALLY shows you why it doesn’t work. At first they both try to climb on it, but they’re too heavy and the stupid thing capsizes. Only then is Jack like “You go take it, Imma good”

      Also, Mythbusters tried it and got the same results. 2 people to heavy, 1 ok.

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        It’s been a while since I’ve seen the movie (and have no desire to see it again) and I don’t remember the scene as clearly, so that’s on me. Throwing away the gem was still colossaly stupid, though.

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        No, the Mythbusters actually proved the door could support two people. At the end James Cameron himself basically throws his hands up, concedes and makes some comment about “whatever, if the script says Jack has to die, Jack is dying.” Rewatch the edpisode if ya don’t believe me

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          Yes, after the took off their lifebelts and tied them under the door for adden buoyancy.

          I think two people, already stressed to their teeth, now also suffering from hypothermia can be forgiven for not having the same presence of mind in that situation

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            Guess i forgot about that detail, so thanks for the correction. The end results are the same either way though. The door can float 2 but the script says jack has to die, rendering the entire argument pretty moot. James Cameron’s comment was basically “science be dammed, Jack’s drowning.”

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              I’m sure if Cameron realized that the door of that size, with two life jackets underneath could support two people, he would have written the door to be smaller. It’s ok not to like the film, but this is just CinemaSins level pedantic.

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    Dark Knight trilogy. I firmly think between Nolan and Bale, Batman is forever scared. Every version I’ve seen of Batman sense has been this dark brooding boring character. Oh and that ridiculous voice. “The Batman”, kept dark and brooding but at least he was a detective again. But that trilogy was terrible beginning to end. The slight glimmer of hope is Heath Ledger’s performance which was great but still not enough to carry a trilogy.

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      Batman has been dark and broody decades before the Nolan trilogy.

      There have been lighter versions but dark and broody are basically core qualities of the character

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        Yeah no. I think you’re confused because Batman Begins came out in 2005 which was decades ago.

        If you forgot he’s actually also known as Bruce Wayne and he knows how to smile and have a good time. Any actually cared about the various villains that he fought against. He used to be a clever detective.

        Post Nolan he is has lost a lot of complexity. That complexity of the character offset his serious side when the cowl came on.

        Look me dead in the eye and tell me Nolan’s Batman is better than BTAS. Or is even in the same ballpark.

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          Yeah no. I think you’re confused because Batman Begins came out in 2005 which was decades ago.

          I’m talking about Batman the character, you know? The one first published in 1939. There have been multiple versions but “dark and broody” has been a pretty common trait

          If you forgot he’s actually also known as Bruce Wayne and he knows how to smile and have a good time

          No, it’s been well established he cannot get past the trauma of having his parents murdered in front of him. Actually, it has been well established he is now Batman and Bruce is the disguise… So no, he doesn’t really know how to have a good time

          Post Nolan he is has lost a lot of complexity. That complexity of the character offset his serious side when the cowl came on.

          Not really Nolan’s fault and not what you claimed first either. Batfleck for example was not dark and broody, he was just a fumbling idiot who claimed his superpower was money

          Look me dead in the eye and tell me Nolan’s Batman is better than BTAS. Or is even in the same ballpark

          Again moving the goal post … What does BTAS have to do with your comment that Nolan made Batman dark and broody??

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            If anything Nolan had by miles the best live action Bruce Wayne, the whole billionaire airhead mask he created Bruce, the character in that universe is perfect. Nobody would believe that asshole rich dude that showers with top models in a pool inside a restaurant and buys the place in that instant is Batman. It works.

            Later version like that hulking dumbass Batfleck or extremely emo Battinson don’t work as well. Also I don’t see what’s so great about Keaton batman, he’s so boring and quiet, with no contrast between Bruce and batman. Then the one scene with emotion is the LET’S GET 🥜 scene but that’s it.

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            So you just like the new lazy writing. Got it.

            Because I know you didn’t just draw a straight line from the 1939 Batman to the current Batman and was like ‘these are the same!’

            I’ll go watch my Adam West to Kevin Conroy versions. Where he was a multi-dimensional character. And you can enjoy the more modern one where he glares at people and had been reduced to ‘I’m Batman’. And this is where we part ways. Cuz this is a threat about opinions I gave mine and you are clearly mad that I don’t like your favorite version of Batman.

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              So you just like the new lazy writing. Got it.

              No idea where you are drawing this from

              Because I know you didn’t just draw a straight line from the 1939 Batman to the current Batman and was like ‘these are the same!’

              Oh I see, you lack reading comprehension. To make it extra clear, having a common trait (what I actually said) does not mean “these are the same”

              And this is where we part ways. Cuz this is a threat about opinions I gave mine and you are clearly mad that I don’t like your favorite version of Batman.

              I’m not mad at all… Disagreeing with you does not make me your enemy… You care confusing me with yourself lol

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              Multi dimensional Adam west? LMAO he was either a corny ass rich dude or a corny ass hero. With bad jokes even for the era.

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    La La Land. Musicals are already on thin ice, but a musical about some arrogant, self obsessed people complaining about how hard it is trying to be (and ultimately succeeding in being) successful?? UGH. Shut it all down.

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      Right?! “Oh no we are so brilliant and talented and smoking hot, but the world won’t just give us success on a silver platter and now that we made our dreams come true we miss being together”.

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      More importantly, >!they just gave up on their relationship because one of them was leaving the country? For what, less than a year? After all that, they just threw it all away because they didn’t want to deal with FaceTime for a couple of months? Bet they felt real fucking dumb when the pandemic hit.!<

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      Which movie are you talking about? Peter Cushing or Paul McGann? I don’t know that I’d call either one a blockbuster.

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    I’m reliably informed there are people who like Michael Bay’s Transformers movies. The most interesting part of the entire series to me was watching a Camaro get into a literal fist fight with a Mustang. Otherwise my memories of the movie were having eye rollingly childish catch phrases boomed down at me, or visuals that are basically just technicolor television snow.

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      I thought the first one was at least fun, but had some obviously annoying parts that should have been cut from any sequel.

      Then the second one comes out, and the annoying parts of the first are the entire movie of the second.

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      No like is the wrong word. I love them. Don’t know why thou, they are fucking stupid.
      I mean its clearly an ad for the military where cars beat up cars. Buuuut Its hilariously epic and very comforting in its shallowness. Normally I am more of a weird indie movie guy. But every time optimus calls out all autobots in the end I cry.

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    Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

    I’m a huge Tarantino fan and enjoyed every single one of his movies, except that one.
    Maybe you had to have been in the Hollywood scene at the time to understand the humor, but I was bored out of my mind the while time and wondered whether he’s making fun of the audience and seeing if he can get away with a movie without a real storyline if he just includes his signature foot shots, long conversations about nothing and a massacre at the end.

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      just includes his signature foot shots

      To be fair, those foot shots are … as good as foot shots can be, at least.

      Sigh.

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      I think the problem was that half of the movie was a memorial to the victims of the Charles Manson murders and the other half of the movie was about Brad Pitt and DiCaprio, and the two stories had absolutely zero synergy.

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      That was the last movie I saw in theaters until two weeks ago when I saw Furiosa.

      I enjoyed Once Upon A Time In Hollywood. Furiosa was better, though.

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      I’m a huge Tarantino fan and enjoyed every single one of his movies, except that one.

      Are you including Jackie Brown in this assessment? Because that’s the one Tarantino film I’d never return to. Bored the shit out of me.

      I can see how Once Upon a Time in Hollywood wouldn’t do it for a lot of people. The storyline was pretty bloody thin.

      From memory, my wife and I had only just recently watched the Aquarius TV series (a few years after it was made) followed by Mindhunter (we were on a true crime kick back then), so the intersection with the Manson murders kept us hooked. Also, Tarantino using the same Aussie actor from Mindhunter to reprise the role of Manson felt like a really cool Easter egg.

      But, that’s the thing about Tarantino - he’s always going to be polarizing. You either love or hate a given piece of his work, I guess.

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        I disagree entirely. Jackie Brown is actually my favorite Tarantino film.

        Tasteful and interesting.

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          See? That just illustrates my point perfectly. I reckon Tarantino intentionally sets out to put people firmly on either side of the love/hate fence, with each film.

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            It was hugely freeing for me to realize this. I didn’t really care for Death Proof and I absolutely hated Inglorious Bastards. My friends thought I was crazy. After loving Kill Bill and everything I had seen before it, I thought Tarantino had just gotten too far up his own ass. Then Django came out and was just fun and cathartic and I realized I just needed to take each project as it came

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        Yeah Jackie Brown is my least favourite Tarantino film by a mile.

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    The Matrix. So, so dumb. Dumb, lots of dumb.

    Absolutely the most overhyped film I’ve ever paid money to see.

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      Well, everyone is wrong sometimes, you just chose today. That film is a masterpiece. And yes they ripped off a bunch of other shit, but they did so with proper style.

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        Masterpiece, schmasterpiece. It’s a series of dumb set pieces tied together with a pseudo-philosophical plot and some impressive effects.

        Just IMO, of course.

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        And if you watch the matrix today for the first time, everything is cliche and done to death.

        The reason for this is that every single action movie after the matrix has copied it. When it released, it blew people away. No one had seen anything like it. I remember going to see it after an event because of how much people wouldn’t stop talking about it. Even overhyped, I was blown away.

        The Matrix defined action movies for a decade+

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          When it released, it blew people away

          I actually saw it on release in the cinema. Hated it. Ah well :-)

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            I saw it in theaters too. Two months later, I saw The 13th Floor. Dark City had come out the year before.

            I think that all of this was just the zeitgeist of the time.

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        I mean, the post is literally asking for unpopular opinions, so… respect the honesty at least

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      Ok no. The matrix, the whole trilogy, it’s a damn masterpiece. Misunderstood to the max. I won’t bother with a essay because I know haters never move from their place.

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        Hey, I’m not a hater, at least not in the trolling sense. I just genuinely think it’s a poor movie and massively massively overrated. Never saw the sequels as I had zero interest.

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          I’d be curious to see what you think of the sequels because I only loved the first movie and hated everything that came after it. But I totally understand that you have no interest in watching them.

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        the whole trilogy, it’s a damn masterpiece

        An unpopular opinion from OP themselves.

        I like the matrix series, but the two sequels are far from being masterpieces. The 2nd was a good action set piece, but the 3rd one got a bit up its own ass at times trying to fit all the exposition in with the action scenes.

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          As usual people don’t understand the hidden message, every dialogue the AI characters say is ON POINT. Even Neo, becoming less human and more omnipresent and digital z everywhere, meanwhile Smith becomes more human. Is perfect, the antithesis, the one and the zero, binary code. Is perfect. Majority of people just don’t get it.

          And the very hidden references in music and Hinduism… I stand in my position, the movie is too clever for the average dumb viewer.

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      It was dumb, but at least it was semi-fun dumb. Thank goodness they never made any more Matrix movies after the first one.

      shut up shut up shut up shut up no they didn’t shut up shut up

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      Using people as batteries never made sense since you’d have to continually use energy to feed them and they really dont make that much heat energy.

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        If I remember correctly in the first drafts they used the brain for computational power but went for the battery idea because it was, for a then tech illiterate audience, easier to understand.

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      In a thread full of hot takes, you’ve picked the hottest. I’d expect Lemmy users and people who like The Matrix have a Venn diagram that’s just a circle.

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        Not gonna lie, never seen the full movie(s) and probably never will at this point since it doesn’t interest me.

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      I don’t think it’s dumb but very overrated and not anywhere near as deep as people make it out to be. It’s little surprise that “the red pill” had been embraced by so many arrogant people that are pretty ignorant.

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    I’m probably going to get some hate for this one, but Spider-Man: Across The Spiderverse. The story wasn’t as tight as the first movie, they introduced too many new characters to keep up with, and it ended with a setup for the next movie.

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      Why do both of the Spider-Man animated movies look like they’re something like 15 frames per second? It actually made me sort of nauseous to watch them when things were moving around really fast.

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    The Purge. They’re all dumb as fuck. “No lawz fur wun day. Halps soseyetti.”

    Yeah no, trust in the government would break the floor and anarchy would reign instead. Not to mention businesses would probably refuse to operate here.

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      Are these highly praised? I thought they were at best considered fine examples of a genre that’s looked down upon.

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      Don’t get me stated on how fucking dumb it is that everyone everywhere just immediately turns to murder. Crime isn’t something I have a problem with, so when I say I’ve never committed a murder it’s not because the pesky laws are stopping me. I just genuinely don’t see the need to kill someone. But no, everyone and their mom is going full zodiac all day all night if it went for laws!

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        That’s a plot point in the prequel one (I’ve only seen the first one, though) and from one of the trailers I remember seeing, during the very first Purge people were just throwing huge parties and getting all kinds of fucked up, and the people on charge were disappointed because they just wanted people to kill each other.

        It was posed as some sort of secret government conspiracy to keep the population/minorities/what have you “in check.”

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      Really? I’d guess the opposite would happen, and the power vacuum would be quickly filled by alternate purge-day-only governments.

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      I love The Purge, especially election day. They really hit that sweet spot between exploitative horror and substantive political commentary.

      Which is what the best B movies do.

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      I was old enough to see the original trilogy re-released with all the bad dumb filler George Lucas thought was necessary to complete his vision.

      All the poopy squelchy gross-out CGI was obviously a crass moneygrab, but it seemed like such a reflection of the man himself that I boycotted the prequels when they came out. Then I found Red Letter Media. Fuck the prequels. Fuck that creepy bastard. Han shot only.

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        Honestly, now that I’ve watched them more recently I enjoyed them a ton. At least Lucas had an idea of where he wanted to go with it, unlike the shit Disney trilogy.

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          Aeons ago, I came across a picture of a young woman in a “steampunk Elsa” cosplay. It was “steam punk” because she had brown leather straps with brass buckles everywhere and she was wearing a pair of goggles like a hat. It was “Elsa” because the cloth parts of her bustier was cyan.

          Feels reductive, right? That a genre of fiction with themes and ideas to explore, and a main character from a major motion picture, both get boiled down to some leather straps and colored cloth.

          That’s what Disney did to Star Wars. It’s not a story anymore, it’s a cosplay aesthetic.

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        The prequels had the best light saber fights in the franchise though.

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          I guess they look prettier. But they are boring AF. There is no tension or stakes between the characters because they’re all boring or unlikable and it’s so highly choreographed it looks like dance number from a musical.

          Yeah, OT lightsaber fights lacked action. But at least they had weight and meaning behind them. That makes them much, much better in my opinion.

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            OT lightsaber fights looked like people who practiced the idea of “less is more” combat and knew pointless flailing and twirling around was useless against a similarly skilled opponent. This MADE SENSE. Everyone in the prequels flipping around and going nuts with the lightsabers and all that – it was laughable. Even Luke in the OT who wasn’t as skilled as some of the so-called “masters” from the prequels used at least some restraint and thought when fighting.

            The prequels are garbage and I’m sick of people who think they’re good just because we made memes out of them.

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              Spot on. And don’t even get me started on Yoda. Not even did they make him stupid as fuck … no, he also had to get a little lightsaber and flip around like a character on super smash brothers. So ridiculous and basically a total character assasination.

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            They’re lightsabers wtf would they need weight lmao

            Look, George Lucas wanted Wu xia style movies with space samurais and the choreography did that PERFECTLY. Is supposed to look like a dance, have you seen HERO or crouching tiger hidden dragon?

            The Disney sequels tried to do a more “realistic” style, I bet inspired by John Wick or the bourne movies but with “swords” but failed, the mistakes can be seen during the choreography. I can’t remember a single mistake being noticeable during the prequel fights.

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              Ok, so you clearly only care about the action scenes and don’t care about the story at all. Guess that’s a view point that exists.

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                Anakin vs Obi wan was a visual spectacle and still one of most emotional fights in the series… And it’s in the prequel. I rest in my case.

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                  I guess having 15 mins dance number against overloaded CGI background is technically a “visual spectacle”, I so give you that.

                  one of most emotional fights

                  I don’t even know how to respond to that. I guess feeling relief that the movie is finally over is an emotion.

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        Oh, yes the special edition re-release … where all the guns have been replaced by walkie-talkies and the word Wookie has been change to “hair challenged animal”.

        The Plinkett reviews are probably the best thing that came from the prequels! I must have watched them more often then the actual movies by now.

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      I’ve recently come to terms with the fact that I guess I’ve just grown out of Star Wars. When you strip away all of the nostalgia, I don’t think any of the originals (or prequels) hold up at all. And the newer ones have just been trash.

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        I’ve recently come to terms with the fact that I guess I’ve just grown out of Star Wars. When you strip away all of the nostalgia

        Very true. Rewatching stuff later with a new perspective certainly changes things.

        I don’t think any of the originals (or prequels) hold up at all.

        That is where I disagree. THe orginals do hold up, because Starwars was about classic adventure story. The character of Luke Skywalker. The original trilogoy (and there are quality differences between the eopisodes) overall get this right. It’s the sort of timless story, just with a spin on it beeing a sci-fi world.

        The prequels and sequels completley missed that aspect of basic stoytelling. The OT stands out as a piece of revolutionary cinema, where the prequels are an elaborate ad to sell more Starwars toys.

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          Does that mean that from your point of view all the movies are evil?

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            Not sure what you mean by that.

            I can offer you bad, terrible, aweful, dreadful, horrendous, vile, digusting … but I wouldn’t say evil.

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          where the prequels are an elaborate ad to sell more Starwars toys

          This is clearly not true, Lucas cared a lot about his story and universe. I say this hoping it helps effectively communicate points later: statements like that detract from your premise because they’re obviously false to an audience that knows and cares. It would be better (from a rhetorical standing) to double down on the poor storytelling allegations by acknowledging it as true instead, then going on to say that they were cinematic incoherence regardless.

          I haven’t seen a single one of the prequels in over a decade except RotS (which I thought was an interesting story but a poorly made film), but my dislike of the prequels is because they’re not good movies. My dislike of the sequels is that they were not good and were made to maximize profits.

          THe orginals do hold up, because Starwars was about classic adventure story. The character of Luke Skywalker… It’s the sort of timless story, just with a spin on it beeing a sci-fi world… The prequels and sequels completley missed that aspect of basic stoytelling.

          This is where I completely disagree. Movies should not be aiming to do only the classic adventure story over and over again, and the prequels weren’t bad because of the story. They actually had a pretty classic story too: an evil being corrupts a well-meaning but slow-to-react institution filled with self serving or incompetent representatives by manufacturing conflict to seize power. All the while the forces of good are distracted and unfocused by the chaos— and too sure that their institutions will not bend to tyranny— until it is too late. With a solid director, the prequels could have been excellent, and also perhaps a prophetic warning about complacent democracies.

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            This is clearly not true, Lucas cared a lot about his story and universe.

            AHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Oh wait, your’re serious. Let me laugh even harder.

            Movies should not be aiming to do only the classic adventure story over and over again, and the prequels weren’t bad because of the story.

            Right. Movies shouldn’t. But Starwars should. But that’s not even the main issue. The prequels are just terribly written, no matter what genre they were supossed to be. Bad story, terrible characters with no development, inchorent and self condtradictory and padded with stupidly long and boring action scences. They are just bad movies. A director couldn’t have fixed that, they would need a complete rewrite.

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      I kind of like them, actually. I know this is a fairly unpopular opinion, so allow me to elaborate:

      I grew up with ep IV through VI, as my brother had them on VHS. I was instantly a fan, and I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve seen them.
      Once I was old enough to be aware of the concept of a story not existing in a vacuum, I started wondering about how ep III ended, and other things, long before I knew they would turn the prequels into movies as well. I was curious about the world building and the star wars universe in general.

      And that’s what the prequels did for me: They finally answered so many of the questions I had after watching the originals. So it was pretty cool for me to finally see that aspect on the big screen as well.

      However, they should’ve skipped JarJar Binks. And a lot of the world building seemed tacked on as a result of George Lucas realizing he could include anything he wanted thanks to CGI.

      And speaking of CGI: Han shot first. I liked the remasters, but they truly fucked ip Han Solo, trying to make him a loveable loner instead of some outlaw who was after a quick buck

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        And that’s what the prequels did for me: They finally answered so many of the questions I had after watching the originals. So it was pretty cool for me to finally see that aspect on the big screen as well.

        But it was terrible worldbuilding that often contradicts the original movies or just doesn’t make any sense.

        I liked the prequels when they first came out. But I was around 11. And I thought they were great because of the much better lightsaber and spaceship action. I got so many Starwars LEGO sets.

        When I rewatched them in my early twenties I was baffled about how bad they were, now having learned to care about storytelling and characters from other shows and movies, the fight- and action scenes weren’t really that important and when you don’t focus on them, the movies are just so boring and awkward. That wasn’t the case when rewatching the OT.

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        I think I would agree, though I only watched the sequels once and was so bored I didn’t really pay attention. But when the sequels released Starwars was already ruined and I very much expected them to be shit. So I guess they don’t feel as bad because they were close to what I expected.

        Also I’ve seen very little praise for them compared to the prequels.

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    For me, it was A Quiet Place. I found it incredibly dumb and impossible to believe that nobody on the whole of the planet ever considered that these aliens with ultra incredible hearing weren’t somehow vulnerable to noise? Just dumb as fuck, especially when you consider that sonic weapons already exist and are used, and sound is routinely used in torture/incarceration scenarios.

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      I actually don’t mind the premises behind the Death Angels, but the reasoning is pretty weak behind them. They could be defeated easily and the cast would not survive outside of the film’s sound design. The rest is just shit occurring for the point of the movie to exist, and its told pretty damn well.

      And then they made a sequel. And now a prequel. This didn’t need to be a franchise.

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      Eh, I think of it more in the vein of It Follows. It’s not supposed to make sense, it’s supposed to be a minigame for the audience to play along with the characters. It lays out a simple set of mechanics and then uses that to build tense dilemmas, giving the audience a chance to think about what they would do in that situation, and what they definitely want to prevent from happening.

      I didn’t see the second one, though. Heard it wasn’t great (no pun intended).

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      Iirc, cochlear implants don’t actually produce sounds, but an electro static (?) feedback. So the aliens aren’t actually vulnerable to sounds but to that.

      The movie probably could have explained that better

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        You may have got me there. It was overhyped. So. Much. Merchandise. It drew people to the cinemas too, at least where I live. I do not remember whether it was actually praised though.

        BTW: I hated the sound track. Anything with Puff Daddy or whatever he tries to call himself nowadays should not exist. Most lazy music ever.

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          It wasn’t critically praised, but the film did almost triple its budget with its box office gross.

          I think that puts this film in the overrated hit film category.

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          It wasn’t critically praised, but it did almost triple its budget with its worldwide gross.

          It also got a shit ton of attention for that stupid Puff Daddy song with Jimmy Page.

          I’d say this film fits the thread perfectly, if you consider profit to be high praise.

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    Guardians of the galaxy 3. Would not be surprised to learn ChatGPT wrote the dialogue.

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      Man people really liked that movie and i just do not get it. I really like the first guardians movie. It’s probably my favourite of all those superhero disney movies. The dialogue is horrible, everyone is trying to be a comedian. They made this pseudo sad ark for rocket, that was so damn cheap. Showing cute animals getting tortured/killed is such a lazy way to make people care. The only good thing about the movies are some of the crazy visuals and that groot wasn’t a baby anymore.

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      Thor: Love and Thunder felt like it was written by a Disney executive suite after they ran metrics on what test groups laughed at in Taika’s other work, then amplified the lulz by 20%, and rewrote it for the 11-16 year old market.

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        I had the feeling that they tried to merge a dark drama and a slapstick comedy into one movie.

        The God killer, especially the intro was quite interesting and dark. I could relate with his anger, disappointment and urge for vengeance.

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        Liked it. But I like goofy shit, and I don’t like Marvel.

        If they had done that with Batman I’d have pitched a fit. Like I did with Clooney Batman.

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          Joel Schumacher’s Batmen movies, especially the Clooney one, were so awful they changed the tone of superhero movies from that point on.

          I watched them both very recently during an extended Arnold Schwarzenegger movie binge, and it’s absolutely worth hate-watching them again for the sheer wonkiness and absurdity of… everything. Try tallying the Dutch angles. And girl power platitudes.

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        I had already been getting sick of superhero movies, but god damn that one was awful imo. The genre should have ended on a high note and stuck with that. It’s a great time to try new, non-super hero movies.

        Because the whole “casual super hero start -> personal setback -> bad guy: all your base belong to us -> super hero assembles a team to destroy NYC -> bad guy loses all bases in 40 minutes” plot is very tired.