So it’s working as planned?
I use arch btw
Thanks for letting me know! You’re not going to believe this, but I, too, use Arch.
The crowd exhales we know
The 24H2 update would not install on a brand new prebuilt PC that I bought for my parents. I contacted both the manufacturer and Microsoft and spent too many hours troubleshooting before I gave up and returned it to where I bought it as defective. Back to the drawing board for a replacement PC for my parents.
WHY ARE YOU NOT UPDATING TO WIN ELEVEN? Hard to recommend this OS without QA.
Agile has been a mistake for the software industry. It did nothing except to give executive more avenue to force changes to the software that are being developed and in the end it’ll take a longer time to have production ready software when compared to traditional waterfall approach.
It depends on the use case. For incremental changes and validation of hypotheses in an uncertain or new product Agile is great. It allows for fast valuation and fast pivoting. I would not recommend Agile for systems that are mostly known and need a big upgrade, that’s not what its for.
Agile became a buzzword and shouldn’t have been implemented as widespread as it has. It does have its use cases though.
Your OS isn’t getting regular updates!!!
This is a feature imo.
I switched to Mac after my old Asus laptop went out. I figure why bother with a PC laptop, it’s not gonna game and let’s see what the fuss is about. Love my MacBook Air. So then our desktop dies and I give my wife 3 options. A Mac, a cheaper PC, and a more expensive PC. She’s Android, figured she’d want to stick with Windows, but she picked the Mac! So happy. I mostly game on Switch and Xbox these days so that’s fine.
I keep feeling like I left Windows at the right time.
Being happy for someone switching to mac and being on lemmy where everyone is on the Linux train, was not on my bingo card.
Unix unity. Linux 💜 Mac 💜 BSD
Thanks I guess? Surely Mac and Linux users can be friends or at least allies against Windows. Linux comes from UNIX which macOS is based on so they’re very similar, only one is FOSS — which I suppose is the point — and the other is not. But another commonality — Macs and PCs can both run Linux.
I feel you may be boarding a different sinking ship: https://youtu.be/JUG1PlqAUJk
I have been using Linux Mint for over half a year now, and besides gaming, I had no issues with a great experience. Had very bad experience with other Linux distros.
How does Apple’s profitability being a little less than it used to be (they’re still insanely profitable) imply that it’s a “sinking ship”?
I’m a Linux user as well, but use macOS at work and it’s fine.
Did you watch the video or are you guessing based on the thumbnail? Because the video isn’t about Apples profitability.
I watched the first minute or so, which was about their stock price relative to Microsoft. Profitability is a huge part of a company’s stock price.
I didn’t watch the rest because I’m not going to watch a 30 min video without a good reason to.
TL;DR: Under Jobs, Apple focused on engineering products and the profitability and stock price followed. Under Cook, Apple focuses on stock price (dividends, stock buybacks) and is massively cutting R&D/Engineering costs to the point they did not release anything really new for years and their projects keep failing while also increasing prices. E.g. Siri that is unable to catch up to modern chatbots.
Sure, that’s an argument for why the stock price is suffering, not for why macOS is in danger. Apple is still massively profitable, the stock price just reflects the market’s perception that profits won’t increase as fast as their competitors.
Again, why are you so over focused on stock price? As a consumer, how is the first thing you take away from lack of innovation and engineering failures that Apples stock price may suffer and not that the machine you are buying may be sub-par and overpriced?
So you’re saying I’ll be safe from this if I stick with win 10 past October?
Butbutbutbut Linux is not ready for desktop! I asked a stupid question in an Arch forum and they told me to RTFM! It does not support kernel level anti-cheat! Terminals are scary!
Etc, etc.
good I’m convinced. just one thing… which graphic design programs does it run natively?
figma
ok so it’s useless
May I ask what’s your job? I’m a web developer completely fine on Linux. I used windows for a long time, I tried mac for some month. Linux is the best.
developer is completely different from designer. I’m a graphic designer, and I also do animations and videos. I use adobe illustrator, photoshop, indesign, premier; affinity designer, photo, blender. I use figma too which is good for prototyping for web or apps, but not graphic design in general. and certainly not photo editing. inb4 gimp–completely unusable for pro work.
For 3D animations, Modo has linux-x86_64 binary. Blender is native also.
I’ve never been into 2D animations.
For compositing, The Foundry Nuke is native also. (If you’ve got the money, or you’re willing to buy it from seejeepeers)
For video editing, most youtubers use DaVinci Resolve.
Inkscape is slow as it’s using SVG for its backend and not as polished as an illustrator but it is feature-rich. Adwaita icons are designed in inkscape. It’s not a big sacrifice.
I learned photoshop when It was the CS4 version. I know it’s got a lot of AI features since then. Luckily, I left it before I could get used to them, so now I can use gimp. And btw, check gimp’s new release candidate. It’s a huge step forward. Everyone could give them their adobe cc subscription fees and we could see how they compete after that.
Why do you use affinity if you have adobe?
You jest but would you really install Arch on your grandmother’s PC?
Why not ? I suppose that as long as a browser (and whatever else she need) is working, my grandmother would not need much more. And I could also install a windows11 theme on KDE, if I really want to. A icon is a icon
And in the end I think that my grandmother would be able to mantain neither a window machine, so I don’t see the problem.
I think most of the replies to my remark thought I was questioning Linux for grandma overall. I wasn’t. Just Arch. I don’t think grandma needs rolling releases.
In my opinion also Arch is usable on grandma desktop.
True, it is a rolling release but I would suppose that on such machine there would not be that many packages installed and if the network is configured correclty (so nothing can connect from the outside) it would be not be a big problem, after all what grandma use is not updated on a daily basis.But that means she’s not getting security updates and since she’s grandma she really needs them. On the other hand, if you’re automatically upgrading her Arch install then there will be breakage she is hopeless to fix.
So what advantage does Arch offer grandma over a traditional release LTS distribution which will be nice and stable, not breaking or changing unexpectedly on her but still remaining current with security patches?
But that means she’s not getting security updates and since she’s grandma she really needs them. On the other hand, if you’re automatically upgrading her Arch install then there will be breakage she is hopeless to fix.
True, but that would be the end result in any case where an update do something wrong or require some sort of manual intervention, it is not strictly tied to Arch. But you have a point here.
So what advantage does Arch offer grandma over a traditional release LTS distribution which will be nice and stable, not breaking or changing unexpectedly on her but still remaining current with security patches?
Only to have some newer software, but you can also update Arch every once in a while, the fact that it is a rolling release does not mean you need to update every day. The everything will depend on which distro normally uses the person who install the grandma machine
I used Arch for about 7 years. I still have it installed on an old PC but I haven’t used it recently. Every time I told pacman to update everything it felt like an adventure. Never knew if I was going to reboot to a working desktop or to a console printing cryptic error messages that take a while to Google on my phone before I get things back up and running. I wouldn’t wish that experience on my worst enemy’s grandma!
It all comes down to the maintainers of Arch putting all of the responsibility for breakage (especially due to old configuration files) 100% on the user. That’s not a system any normal person should use, that’s a system for Linux hobbyists. A LTS distribution where “don’t break the user’s install no matter what” is the rule is absolutely the only system I’d ever trust for grandma.
It’s fine if you want to assume all responsibility for updating grandma’s system and fixing breakage every time. I don’t have any interest in doing that. If I’m at grandma’s house I want to spend time talking to her, not fixing her computer.
When my wife’s grandparents had to get a new computer they got upset about the new windows interface and the fact their old games didn’t work, so I set them up with Linux and a DE that resembled XP (it’s what they were familiar with), and I was able to get most of their games going.
They used it without issue until they died.
So you’re saying Linux killed your wife’s grandparents.
Now that would be a funny headline.
No sadly COVID lockdown isolation did them in. I’ve never seen minds and bodies decay so fast. I have another friend who developed full-blown psychosis from it too, and at this point it looks like he’s never coming back. The lockdowns were harder on some people than we were/are ready to talk about I think.
Yeah, it’s honestly crazy to me because I think lockdowns were a net benefit to me. I was able to spend more time with my SO and kids, I had time for exercise and hobbies since I didn’t need to sit in traffic, and I didn’t need to spend as much social energy making small talk (I’m introverted). I honestly thrived during COVID. Getting COVID sucked for the week or so I had symptoms, but that was honestly a small price to pay for solitude.
But then I see headlines of people literally going crazy, see a dramatic increase in road rage in my area (which didn’t have lockdowns, only social distancing for businesses), and see my own extended family struggling.
I feel so bad for people like your grandparents that suffered. I just personally wish the COVID lifestyle was more accessible.
I just personally wish the COVID lifestyle was more accessible.
Same, it suited me quite well and I feel bad saying I missed it because so many others, including some of my own family and friends, suffered. Now that I’m back in the office 5 days a week, I lose >2 hours a day with my kids. I had my own parents say “i don’t get why you’re complaining, we got by before COVID” while refusing to acknowledge it’s different because one of them stayed home with us, while my wife and I must both work to survive.
I grew up in a religious conservative family. These and other experiences drove me to the left in a big way. I see now that thinking we can solve systemic issues with individualism is bullshit. I want a world where my wife or I could stay home (or some communal solution) to raise our family right rather than having a bunch of latchkey kids and being stuck doing chores from the moment we get home until the moment we lie down. Some people say “well that’s how I was raised” but it isn’t right.
Depends on her needs. If she uses it for Facebook, no problem, since I’ll be admining her system anyways
Removed by mod
It does not support kernel level anti-cheat!
Huh, thought you were mentioning only the cons.
Gods luck playing any of the biggest, most played games in the world without it.
Don’t give a shit about live service multiplayer PvP-games infested with FOMO battle passes, I’m afraid.
I’m quite content with co-op and singleplayer games, thanks for worrying though.
Then I guess they don’t exist.
Unlucky for you then. I’m gonna be having an absolute blast on Battlefield 6 in a few months 😀
I very seriously doubt that but cope away haha
You doubt I’ll be having a blast playing Battlefield 6? Why?
Why?
That update made me buy my first Framework laptop! Fuck Microsoft!!
I love my 13". Does exactly what I need. I kind of want the 12", but I don’t really need it. So i’m going to hold off.
of file corruption when symptoms occurs" adds the report (Translated from Japanese by Grok AI).
Why would you use an LLM to translate text? There are tools made specifically for that
Honestly, translations are one of the few things LLMs are good for. It can catch things like idioms or other things a machine translator may mistranslate. Though tbf, the main appeal is still live translation.
I want my Babbelfish.
Which are based on LLMs or other neural network models. It is kind of the thing that language models are actually good at.
See DeepL for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeepL_Translator
The service uses a proprietary algorithm with convolutional neural networks (CNNs)[3] that have been trained with the Linguee database.[4][5]
According to the developers, the service uses a newer improved architecture of neural networks, which results in a more natural sound of translations than by competing services.
The translation is said to be generated using a supercomputer that reaches 5.1 petaflops and is operated in Iceland with hydropower.[6][7]
In general, CNNs are slightly more suitable for long coherent word sequences, but they have so far not been used by the competition because of their weaknesses compared to recurrent neural networks.
The weaknesses of DeepL are compensated for by supplemental techniques, some of which are publicly known.As someone who’s played a few LLM translated games, it is in fact not good at it. There’s a lot of contextual hints that get lost and slang terms tend to confuse it. It does make it close enough where a human that doesn’t speak/read the original language could easily finish the translation though or still make it through the game.
Yeah I know they’re based on LLMs, but they’re more adapted to translation, right?
Yesterday I got into the process of installing Windows 10 onto my laptop because I am selling it tomorrow. I asked the buyer if he wanted it with an OS or not, and he replied that he wanted Windows 10 Pro. I downloaded the ISO and installed it to one of my M.2 SATA SSD drives with a USB adapter.
Before installing Windows over my Linux installation, I did a SecureErase to wipe out my drive with the Linux installation because that is the SSD I am selling with the computer.
After installing Windows 10 from the M.2 SATA SSD with a USB adapter to the SecureErased drive, I instantly got multiple error messages about SMART checks saying that the SSD was broken/corrupted. I had never seen this POST error message when booting that computer with a Linux installation.
Well, I obviously had to change the drive to another one where I got the Windows installation to work normally without the BIOS POST error message.
I really cannot be sure what caused that. Can SecureErase do that so SMART checks report the drive as corrupted? Or was it the Windows installation?
Windows bad because I made a user error >:(
Hm…Weird way to shift blame.
where is the user error? is this user error with us in the room?
Fully overwriting an SSD is so archaic.
Example from hdparm:
--trim-sector-range
For Solid State Drives (SSDs). EXCEPTIONALLY DANGEROUS. DO NOT USE THIS OPTION!! Tells the drive firmware to discard unneeded data sectors, destroying any data that may have been present within them. This makes those sectors available for immediate use by the firmware's garbage collection mechanism, to improve scheduling for wear-leveling of the flash media. This option expects one or more sector range pairs immediately after the option: an LBA starting address, a colon, and a sector count (max 65535), with no intervening spaces. EXCEPTIONALLY DANGER‐ OUS. DO NOT USE THIS OPTION!!I think the all caps warnings say it all.
This is only for the trim sectors of the disk but I can’t imagine it being much different overwriting a whole disk.
Not to mention, as OP said, an old and very used disk.
Quick formatting should be enough to prevent any normal user from extracting meaningful data from the flash storage as only the controller knows how to piece together the flash cells to a file.
If the controller forgets it, the files are toast anyway.
At best write some random data to a quarter of the disk or something lile that.File recovery may only be possible if you give it to a drive recovery facility. But remember: Those ain’t exactly cheap.
A client paid some 4 figure price because an HDD died. Just for a small amount of files.@zer0bitz@lemmy.world did a SecureErase, which is an entirely different function. It was exactly made to be used in this scenario: user is selling their laptop.
other than that,
hdparm --trim-sector-rangeis most probably only marked dangerous because with a slight miscalculation you can wipe some of your data and you won’t even know how much damage you did. I’m pretty sure thefstrimcommand relies on this, which is executed every few weeks on my system, by default. check systemctl status fstrim.timer, maybe on yours too.Quick formatting should be enough to prevent any normal user from extracting meaningful data from the flash storage as only the controller knows how to piece together the flash cells to a file.
what do you mean by quick formatting? how do you do that on linux? I have only heard this term with te windows disk management tool.
on windows quick formatting only deletes the partition entry from the partition table. that’s why it’s quick. all the former data is there and can be easily recovered, given you know the former partition boundaries, which can also be recovered by tools. the ssd controller won’t know a thing, it won’t forget where it should look for each LBA address.
SecureErase would overwrite the whole drive (potentially multiple times). So if the ssd was close to dead, it might have just triggered it.
I see. Well the SSD was used and few years old. Some Samsung SSD from a OEM build. I did run SMART tests on it like year ago and it was ok/healthy.
Time to fill it with linux isos and seed them with torrentz until it breaks completely.
Uh v lå p.
Thank god i blocked windows updates and only allowed security updates for 23H2…
Yet again, I trot out this phrase, as a response to yet another massive Windows fuckup/scandal:
… People are still using Windows?
many have to - work from home, have to share data and programs with other workers. There are of course ways around it but I know literally thousands of people who are supplied with a company laptop with windows on it and they have to use it…
Huh, sounds to me like bad security and data integrity policies/practices from whatever company, probably not very well run places to work for.
You realise that most companies still run on Windows don’t you? I’m in the UK and there is around zero companies that use anything else… here they got rid of Macs because of the hassle of supporting them and windows. Plenty of companies won’t let you use a Mac to work with either
Yep I do realize that.
And I still have the same opinion.
You’re in the UK, so you’re not bound by GDPR… but a whole lot of places and orgs that are bound by GDPR realize that MSFT products indeed are a joke from a data security standpoint, and are actively transitioning to linux or at the very least FOSS software.
I am in the US.
I literally used to work for MSFT, a few of their different locations around Seattle.
They are a fucking insane mess, internally, organizationally.
I worked with people, old timers who’d just casually tell me:
‘Oh yeah back before Desert Storm, I was out in Saudi Arabia flashing the BIOS of computer hardware that was bound to be installed in Saddam’s C&C and Air Defense Radar networks, some months later when time came for the air sorties, somebody else just flipped a switch and down goes all their radars!’
Aka a supply chain attack.
Aka, unless your definition of ‘data security’ is ‘the NSA has all my data’, then MSFT products are rather dubious at providing data security.
Like uh, did your org completely remove Copilot?
… Are you sure about that?
For starters in the UK we ARE bound by GDPR…
But it doesn’t matter - you are assuming that companies care in the UK, they don’t. You get Windows or Windows. As said a lot of software only runs on Windows, and this will continue until microsoft stop windows, corps don’t care. Here in the UK Macs are rare, really really rare, in business. Heck in general use they are rare compared to Windows. Linux is nowhere, under 0.1%. You are literally forced to use Windows if you work for a company. My wife works for a charity and she has to use the company laptop, through the company VPN or else she gets warning and can be sacked… it really is that simple. The company controls what software is installed, even what updates are installed. Here in the UK the NHS buys around 5 million windows machines a year… just imagine thatWell technically its not the same GDPR, but w/e.
Point is:
Much of what MSFT does isn’t GDPR compliant, or violates other data security and privacy laws in the EU or elsewhere, or just generally throws privacy and security by the wayside, as a matter of course.
https://ppc.land/irish-court-approves-first-class-action-against-microsoft-rtb-data-breach/
https://www.gadgetreview.com/microsofts-recall-fails-to-protect-sensitive-data
https://www.courthousenews.com/microsoft-must-face-privacy-class-action-over-kaiser-website-data/
This is just a teeny weeny sampling.
If you think MSFT gives a shit about actual data security and privacy, you’re not following the just stream of lawsuits they just keep getting into, revolving around these issues.
Yeah if that means 99% of orgs have bad policy, by relying on a company with a terrible record on all this, the, uh then uh yeah, 99% of orgs are choosing to have the ability to blame someone else for their own bad decisions, over making better decisions.
The point is arguing about something when you plainly don’t understand how the UK still has GDPR doesn’t really validate your opinions in any way shape or form…
The security doesn’t matter, nothing other than Windows is used. To move to something else would cost so much that businesses simply cannot sustain that. We now have workers who have had 30 years of only working with Windows… and new workers only get Windows. Doesn’t matter what you or anybody else thinks, or says, it matters little. It is pretty much set in stone that you need Windows and Office in the UK, plus other software to make things like PDF’s and documents. You can point anyone towards anything and it just doesn’t matter… and here in the UK they don’t care about lawsuits, we don’t sue first and ask questions later - our legal system is just not setup that way. It is so difficult for other countries to understand, but that kind of approach just doesn’t happen, and our legal system takes little notice of legal issues in countries like the US.
You realize a lot of software still only runs on windows, right? So its not even a choice for a lot of business.
Yet again - headline and article are massive overexaggerations, talking about an issue that a few people have had in very specific situations and saying it breaks everyones SSDs/HDDs and might corrupt their data to get people like you to get outraged and spread FUD.
Remember - if even 0.01% of people on Windows 11 get an error with an update, that is like 100k people. A 0.01% error rate is nothing. It’s not even worth mentioning. It’s not even worth investigating. Sure it sucks for those 100k people, and they’ll be complaining to everyone that will listen - but it’s not a big issue. That’s this. That’s this exact thing.
Wow, with a mentality like that, you’re a perfect fit for medical school.
And you’re a perfect fit for an arts degree with how dumb that equivalency is.
We’re talking about software updates here, not saving lives.
And you’re about as dense as neutronium if you don’t get it.
Doctors try to save everyone, even the 0.01%. Hell, the 0.01% are actually a huge focus.
In software a 0.01% affecting bug in a single one-off update, that needs very specific exact steps to happen, that is already released is at the bottom of the backlog, never to get fixed.
It’s you that clearly doesn’t get “it”. What is your software development background?
Doctors try to save everyone, even the 0.01%. Hell, the 0.01% are actually a huge focu**s.
BULLSHIT
First of all, false equivalency. Second, this isn’t new and didn’t just start happening again. Its never stopped happening. Windows update is fucking atrocious. Its always been atrocious. Its always been the single worst part about using windows for the vast majority of users.
Came here to say “Well, maybe they’re corrupting your data.”
Look at it from the flip side: Linux is so bad people would rather deal with this than deal with Linux.
Meh - people are creatures of habit. To quote a family member “I’m too old to learn a new operating system!” Any change, even over to Mac OS, is rejected by most Windows users. Even when 99.9% of what they do is in a web browser.
Every time I try switching to Linux I run into some issue I just cant fix and go back to windows, currently pirated win10 IOT LTSC. Last time it was getting the USB ports to recognize an ESP32, the time before that graphics card drivers, the time before that it would either take ages to boot or not boot at all, the time before that software I couldnt get to run.
Maybe try another distro? Mint 22.1 works just fine right out of the box, and at this point Claude provides actual support better than scouring 3 forums in case you need small tweaks. Other than some proprietary fingerprint reader I never use, every machine I’ve used it on has been fine.
You can just do a live install from USB and test it before even installing.
I don’t bother testing using live boot anymore, often hardware will work on the live image but not work after it’s installed.
Needing to try random distros is part of my frustration with Linux, I just want one that works out of the box.
OK, well what I’m trying to tell you is that unless you have some exotic hardware, Mint has the reputation of working right out of the box. Not great for gaming, so if that’s a deal breaker, then that’s it.
unless you have some exotic hardware
Or very recent hardware. 22 is based on Ubuntu 24.04, which shipped with version 6.8 of the kernel which is from March 2024. That excludes all of Nvidia’s 50 series, AMDs RX 9000 series, AMDs 9000 series CPUs/boards, Intel’s Core 200 series/chipsets, Arc B series GPUs.
Sure your 5090 might boot and display a picture, but that thing aint gonna work right.
Lies! Linux never has issues!
My laptop’s Linux install currently isn’t corrupt and won’t boot, honest!
Disclaimer: I actually like Linux a lot, JFC the windows hate is crazy…
I use “incontrol” to stop feature updates. And I used win11debloat. Havent had a problem since. In dogshit bloat, no dog shit copilot, no forced updates, no privacy destroying telemetry. Just me and MY windows machine like the old days.
And I’m sure you’ll blame Microsoft/windows when things don’t work as expected and you get strange errors because you disabled core features using dodgy software that you don’t understand but think you don’t need them.
lol Another Reddit user, with nothing to offer but projection. Being in the game 20+ years, matey. If theres problems, I have skills to solve them. Just because you dont know your arse from your elbow, doesnt mean everyone else is the same. Go cry about MS’s spyware some place else.
🤣 literally everything you said is wrong but good try I guess. Only 20+ years? Amateur.
You’re the one crying about their “spyware”, not me. How do you not see that?
Im not crying about it, as I dont have any of it. Youre the one crying, and shilling, and painting anyone who doesnt bend the knee to them is going to cry without all those amazing core features… Absolute reddit moment.
Cool imagination you got there kid.
Well yes, but actually this is a security update
The reporter’s own “test” proves this is caused by faulty drives unable to sustain the speed they advertise, not Windows.
Why would IO speed be a factor in whether a user’s data is corrupted? That just sounds like a race condition.
Are you suggesting the drives are accessed more slowly before this update?
Maybe ? I know R/W speeds used to be a lot slower in Windows than Linux but I thought they fixed that a few years ago.
That’s mostly related to Windows Defender intercepting reads and writes and hasn’t truly been fixed.
Sometimes it’s literally faster to read a database using WSL than the native system.
“We looked around and could not find other reports resembling such situations. The problem has been reported by a Japanese PC builder and enthusiast and some of the comments on the thread seem to indicate that others there may be experiencing similar issues. So it could be a region-specific thing too”
It got me!. I turn crypto services off and it keeps turning back on. What a pain in the ass!
