Just want to make sure I have that right. He spoke up so now they are making shit up to try and defame him? Do I have this bullshit right?
Who the fuck cares. He seems like a good dude and we all know she’s a complete piece of shit. Let’s not give her or her shitbag followers oxygen.
Yep
It certainly puts it in new light the same way everyone randomly coming out to say they hate Coldplay after some CEO was outed as having an affair during one of their concerts.
Ehhhh honestly saying that you hate Coldplay has been a thing for quite a while. They’re a highly successful pop act that is well past the peak of their popularity, that’s just gonna happen
X&Y is still a great album though
Hey! I hated Coldplay way before that shit happened, plus them outing a shitty ceo actually made them slightly cooler.
Weird, I haven’t heard anyone say they hated Coldplay for this. In fact, I’d say that Coldplay is one of those bands that is regularly hated on, well before any of the cheating CEO and now, if anything, Coldplay is more liked, even if indirectly just because the situation was funny and meme’d so much.
Agreed. Didn’t see that mentioned a single time
Ardent Coldplay hater here. Has absolutely nothing to do with the CEO shit.
Yeah Coldplay sucks and I agree.
As far as I can tell, Coldplay only have the one song, that they take apart and reassemble in different configurations. They are the musical equivalent of beige, and appeal solidly to the middle-classes. Hating Coldplay has been the thing to do for decades. It’s music for people who know nothing about music.
They have more than one song.
It’s just that you can’t tell them apart.
That’s odd that you’d describe them as Nickelback or worse, modern country music, when part of why they’ve gained and lost fans over the years is because their albums tended to have different sounds to them.
They didn’t do anything. Those two ousted themselves.
Oh I disagree. I used to listen to Coldplay pretty often and people have hated on Coldplay for decades. Some found the sound boring, and I recall accusations of them copying music from others, though I never looked into those claims. I say used to because I feel like my tastes in music changed and they don’t come up in my playlist much anymore.
Mine was just the way too fucking overplayed viva vida song. When you hear it 12 times an hour from multiple stations, any band quickly gets irritating.
The fact that people take JK Rowling seriously saddens me.
no they defend her, because shes the terf-queen, transphobes stick together.
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haha same
I don’t hate the guy I just think he’s a boring actor.
I don’t find him boring (yet); I just think he needs to be more selective in accepting roles, considering how distinctive-looking he is.
And that’s completely fine, something like that is just a matter of taste anyway. But trying to smear his reputation and spread false shit about him just because someone doesn’t like him? That’s not cool at all - and even worse if it’s just because he’s not a hateful piece of shit!
Also fuck JK Rowling, that terf bastard deserves nothing but a kick to the shin.
I feel like that happens any time someone gets over saturated in pop culture.
Fuck JK Rowling. Bitch never has gotten a dime from me. I hated on that shit in middle/high school when it was coming out.
Yup.
He’s not bad but he’s doing Nick Cage level of shit. He is put in roles he’s clearly unfit for. So many characters which HAVE to be charesmatic… But he simply isn’t.
He needs to start picking his roles wiser.
He and Nic are both incredible in The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent, imo.
Uh no. He’s just in everything now. It’s overexposure. You can admit to that and also despise JK Rowling.
You can admit to that and also despise JK Rowling.
And do you?
Yes. I think Pascal has been in too much stuff lately. And yes I think JK is a dark hearted nut job. I will never understand her vitriol towards trans people. These are not mutually exclusive ideas.
Scarlett Johansson has been in just as many movies lately and nobody is calling her overexposed.
Some people also don’t like it when someone is “overexposed” and in everything. They liked it when he was on the rise, in Game of Thrones and then he broke out with Mandalorian. People were happy because he played the role keeping the helmet on 99% of the season…especially flying in the face of the Halo series a while later.
But because he was now “popular” and appearing in more films and shows, this is bad now.
For some anyway. Not me. I love him still.
I personally don’t get it. He’s successful. It wasn’t handed to him like some nepo baby. He worked hard and did great jobs to achieve where he’s at.
I honestly don’t get it. You can have someone like Taylor Swift who releases an album every couple weeks and if you speak ill of her then you’ve essentially become Satan. So it’s ok for one person to be constantly in the publics face but it’s not ok for another person?
if you speak ill of her then you’ve essentially become Satan
I didn’t think this was true until I encountered this from my sister-in-law. I just mentioned that I didn’t care for her music and suddenly I became a misogynist because there’s no other possible reason for not liking the output of the greatest singer and songwriter in human history. I countered with a very long list of women artists whose music I did like and she said those women all make masculine music. I was like “Kate Bush and Tori Amos make masculine music?”
Crabs in a bucket.
its because he supports his trans sibling, the current flavor of hate is transphobia of right wingers.
No, most people are just sick of Pedro Pascal, a guy who isn’t even anything special as an actor, being forced down our throat by being cast in every single movie that’s released. It happens to every actor that the industry decides is the “next big thing”. It’s pedro pascal fatigue.
Once that “actor fatigue” sets in, if they’re also a vocal proponent of ideologies that the public overwhelmingly disagree with, and are openly hateful towards anyone who disagrees with them, well it’s a recipe for backlash.
Also his whole “anxiety” thing where he supposedly needs to be groped by/grope people, yet seemingly only when they’re attractive women…come on, that’s creep behaviour.
It’s music for people who know nothing about music.
In case anyone was wondering I did some web searches and this “groping” stuff is basically made up by anti-trans activists as far as I can tell. So I’m not sure if this person is one of them or just parroting their smear unknowingly, but they can be safely ignored.
Like when the public was overwhelmingly opposed to the ideology that blacks and whites should be in the same public spaces, right? Or that they should be allowed to marry? Or that women should get to vote?
Idk man, it seems like majority opinion shouldn’t be considered when talking about people’s rights. We should all have the same rights.
We should all have the same rights, absolutely. That’s not what is being demanded.
I don’t know if it is most people, but Pedro seems to be in a point of oversaturation. I can see some people tiring of him. I can also see some news outlets trying to make money by putting out negative coverage of him.
Which would also get amplified by trans bigots trying to cancel him.
He’s barely in anything. If you see him in ‘everything’ you’re seeking him out.
You know you do that have to watch the stuff he’s in, right? If you’re sick of him then stop paying attention to him and letting him live in your head. And as for the anxiety thing, kind of a dick move to just assume someone’s a creep just because physical touch helps with their anxiety. As someone that had anxiety, I may not relate one-to-one but I definitely get it.
I don’t watch the things he’s in, so yeah, I know that. I’m answering the question that OP asked. You know, the whole point of this thread.
It’s strange how he only needs physical touch from attractive women co-stars, never the unattractive women or the men - that’s why it comes across as very creepy/predatory. You’re acting like there are no predatory people in the world using excuses like anxiety to abuse people.
Is there anything being “shoved down your throat”? Maybe some kind of “agenda” or specific groups of people?
OP have MWAM Syndrome, Must Watch All Movie so the appearance of Pedro Pascal in a lot of movie is a torturous experience. 1 out of 10 American suffer from this syndrome and it’s not a joke.
and it’s not a joke.
agreed, unfortunately the OP is.
forced down our throat by being cast in every single movie that’s released
This is just one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read
Only 14 movies in the past 5 years? Only?! Do you understand how insanely high that number is? lol. Most big actors do like 1 a year.
Went back and looked again, it was actually 14 over 6 years, but 2 of those were short films, one was just a cameo, and one was a voice role. So it’s actually 10 movies over the last 6 years, or 1.7 movies per year, that has you so upset. And you’re clearly upset coming back to this thread 4 days after it died
And you’re clearly upset coming back to this thread 4 days after it died
lol what type of ridiculous logic is this? You think I’m upset because I…checks notes…replied to people that replied to my comment the next time I came to this website? Explain that one to me please.
Why are you so upset that some people are sick of pedro pascal? You’re clearly upset coming back to this thread 4 days after it died.
the next time I came to this website?
This is easily proven to be a lie by looking at your comment history. You’ve really let Pedro Pascal get under your skin, huh
Go on, look at my comment history :). There was a single comment on a day where I didn’t post in this thread. I hadn’t replied to the dozen comments that replied to my posts because I had stuff in the real world take priority over Lemmy (hard to believe for you since you seem to think every poster in here dedicates their life to Lemmy lol)
How embarrassing, I can’t tell whether you’re lying to me or lying to yourself
Huh, when you put it that way it sounds like a lot - three films a year for a decade and a half, plus the Mandalorian, etc.
As with almost everything, I reckon the truth is in the middle - that there’s a tribal backlash by those that consider “woke” a slur, and it’s being amplified by those who are genuinely overexposed to him.
A decade is 10 years, he only really arrived on the scene 5 years ago, where’s the other 15 years coming from?
A decade is 10 years, he only really arrived on the scene 5 years ago, where’s the other 15 years coming from?
Your maths is as bad as mine - a decade and a half is 15 years, so I added 10 not 15.
Decade and a half? You mean half a decade?
Oops, no idea where that came from, unless the 1500 films bit confused my subconscious.
Sounds like you seek out his content to be honest.
I think you have me confused with a different poster. (I just checked and I’ve seen him in The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent, Gladiator II and Mandalorian)
indeed you are correct. i swear lemmy has a off by one bug or something in comment replies lol. apologies for the noise.
It seems like he’s in a lot of things, because the things he appears in tend to be good, and he’s good in them.
I saw the same complaint about Rami Malek a while back, and his imdb profile is relatively sparse for a two-decade acting career. He just happens to be memorable.
I’ve heard the same said about John Malkovich, even though he’s hardly in anything really. But when he is in a movie it’s always good.
The average count of John Malkoviches per movie poster was quite high in the late 90s…
Being John Malkovich is an outlier and should not have been counted.
The whole meta because he was in so many movies makes it required to be on the list, imo.
I loved him in that movie where he played a jewel thief.
If this was Reddit 6 years ago, I’d give you a star. ⭐️
also a vocal proponent of ideologies that the public overwhelmingly disagree with, and are openly hateful towards anyone who disagrees with them
This is news to me, what’s he been saying?
pedro has a trans family member and he advocates for trans rights. the OP is mistaking being pro trans rights with the more muddied waters around trans athletes in competitive sports. hilariously if they knew anything about m2f trans population and how biochemistry works they’d quickly realize the estrogen these individuals take rapidly normalizes them to their gender’s average in performance.
Your last sentence proves being any doubt that you have zero knowledge on the effects of testosterone, exercise/working out, or biology for that matter.
Tell me - does oestrogen shrink trans women’s lungs? Does oestrogen physically shrink trans women height wise? Does it reduce their arm span?
Okay champ. Go talk to a medical professional. See what they tell you.
So you think that a fully grown male who takes testosterone blockers and oestrogen will physically shrink in height, arm span, and their lungs will shrink? If you do, oh boy…the school system has failed you more than you will ever know.
Never said anything about a fully grown males taking estrogen. Thats your delusion. Anyways kindly fuxk off people have better things to do than deal with your nonsense.
Go take some intro anatomy and physiology classes if your interested in learning how the hormones work. They’ll cover it.
Oh so what you’re saying is that no, oestrogen doesn’t take away the physical advantages that a trans woman has over women?
Strange, cause you claimed the opposite 2 posts ago.
No news here, just the usual bigoted “I dislike a thing, so I assume everyone else quietly agrees with me and is too afraid to speak out against the woke mob” bullshit that racists, sexists, homophobes, and (in this case) transphobes have been using for decades.
Well yeah obviously but I wanted them to say that. Hoping for a confession here.
some MAGA chud named “freedomadvocate” being a transphobe. how surprising.
“most people”? Citation needed
You really need a citation for that? In a topic asking why there’s so much hate towards him? You need a citation for me answering the question? Did you ask OP for a citation? Are you asking every person who replies in here for citations?
If you were answering from your own personal perspective, no I wouldn’t ask for citations. But you pretty specifically answered on behalf of more than 50% of people, so I was wondering where you pulled that fact from.
lol ah arguing semantics instead of the actual point, I see.
No arguing for clarity, and knowing the difference between your own opinion and speaking for a group of people you know nothing about.
No, semantics because you have no other argument but just don’t like what was said.
Take your meds
I think those only come in LD50s
you want a citation on the opinion that most people are sick of an actor who is in a lot of movies and TV shows lately?
Do you want this peer reviewed or is just regular polling ok :P
You wanna be clerk? Mark me up as not sick of him
ok found this
Pedro Pascal has officially entered his backlash era.
but i couldn’t give a shit i just think it’s funny you’re asking for a citation on an opinion
Boy so you just didn’t read that article at all, didja?
i did? what is your question :D I can get AI to summarise it for you?
Ah perhaps I was unclear: I am perplexed by your decision to use that article as support for your position, even more so given the recent revelation that you read and (presumably) understood it. It seems rather self-contradictory, given the content of the article is a fairly scathing indictment of the very concept of the “backlash phase”.
I didn’t ask for a citation.
Well I can say with confidence that most people are not sick of him
TERFs will just make shit up. It’s absolutely unhinged. Rowling also has them denying that Nazis killed trans people - they’ve started to claim that the Nazis issued “transvestite passes” (which the Weimar Republic did - famously not the Nazi government) based on a book of photographs someone published of Nazi soldiers doing drag.
The Nazis tortured and murdered trans people. Some did drag because they thought it was funny, heck the US military did official drag shows during WW2. People do drag because it’s funny, that doesn’t mean they accept trans people. It’s unhinged how willing people are to lie and spread the lies of others in order to justify their hate.
how willing people are to lie and spread the lies of others in order to justify their hate.
It’s simply the required narrative not to call themselves monsters. The bigger the horror, the bigger the lie.
Phantasms are one hell of a drug.
It’s exhausting, because once you debunk them on something, they just move on to something else. It’s easy to just make up shit, it takes work to prove it wrong. There’s no guarantee anyone sees the debunking either.
Yep doing drag shows because it’s funny is the opposite of accepting trans people. It mocks them, and women too.
It’s a performance art, and like any other form of performance it can be used to be shitty, but it’s not inherently mocking of women or trans people. Some of the stuff I’ve seen on RuPaul has made me cringe, but I’ve also seen queens that dress up like church marms and do a Betty Bowers/old school Colbert skewering of the Christian right.
I agree, I wasn’t referring to actual drag performances, but to men dressing up as women only because they think it’s funny!
I don’t really necessarily have a problem even then. Manly men dressing up in dresses is funny because it pokes fun at masculinity, not at trans people.
I think it makes more fun of feminity than masculinity.
Hey now, drag queens and kings aren’t the enemy.
To be clear I never meant to imply that they were, I wasn’t talking about actual drag performances. I was talking about men dressing up as women because they think it’s funny.
What’s with people and celebrities? Go live your life.
Your post has me realizing how much I don’t give a shit about.
I honestly don’t even know who Pedro Pascal is.
He’s a pretty famous actor. With two popular shows running simultaneously (sort of) that contain him.
I didn’t recognize the name either until @Warl0k3@lemmy.world said who he is, after which my brain cells told me that i knew that before.
damn, how much arch are you using?
I don’t even get the reference because I stopped in for context but there is none because I still don’t know who that is.
An actor single handedly keeping a good 40% of the LGBTQ community off the ledge right now. Also he played The Mandalorian, and is a very vocal supporter of queer / trans rights (his sister is trans)
An actor single handedly keeping a good 40% of the LGBTQ community off the ledge right now.
Oh, wow, how is he doing that?
That helps immensely. I still don’t get how Arch is involved.
i was just joking around. prev comment said he didnt care. some one replied welcome to lemmy( your just like us). lemmy is filled with linux users. you said you dont know who we are even talking about. and i made the joke that you are that deep into linux you barely come up for pop culture.
I genuinely struggle to come up with a topic for a news article more mind numbingly uninteresting than celebrity drama.
Hi, welcome to Lemmy. You’re in good company here.
Why are you in the comments section, then?
I just wanted to chime in to posture with my superiority
It’s truly beyond me how people have the energy to keep with celebrities
Since it’s beyond you, I’ll take the time to explain. Different people have different values. Some people think it’s interesting to pay attention to the intersection of culture and politics… so they take their energy that isn’t devoted to the necessary tasks of staying alive and devote some of it to following this.
Some people take that energy and participate in online communities. Instead of devoting that energy to that intersection, they post and comment. Its their energy and their value system.
Some people aren’t interested in either. I hope this simple answer has bought it into your range of understanding.
Just here to explain the downvotes: “ChatGPT, come up with a response to someone who dislikes celebrities, use a touch of sarcasm and make the tone slightly condescending in a plausibly deniable way. Make it generic enough it could apply to almost any hobby, in order to trivialize their point”.
Sincerity comes off as sarcasm to the insincere.
Saying my response was created by chatgpt is dismissive and not genuine critique.
Again just explaining it and not disagreeing. I actually literally asked ChatGPT to come up with a prompt to generate your reply, here is the prompt:
Write a reply that is mildly sarcastic but still informative, starting with “Since it’s beyond you, I’ll take the time to explain.” The reply should explain that different people have different values, describe how some people devote energy to following the intersection of culture and politics, others to online communities, and some to neither. End with a slightly condescending line implying the explanation should now be within their understanding.
Well damn. When I wrote this " I hope this simple answer has bought it into your range of understanding." I didn’t have any intention of it being condescending. When I read it, I read as up boeat with a little happiness.
I ran your prompt through ChatGPT this is what it came up with:
“Oh, I get it — you don’t like celebrities. That’s fair. I mean, some people don’t like sports, others don’t like cooking, and there are even people who think reading is a waste of time. It’s all just hobbies, right? Yours just happens to be not caring about certain humans other people find interesting. Perfectly valid. Almost a hobby in itself, really.”
I see how that is similar. I just would have never used the last sentence.
This kind of mature and genuine response is only seen here on Lemmy lol. Anyways I do agree, our celebrities matter and culture is important.
FWIW, i didn’t read that as anything but genuine.
I’ll take you at face value if you say you were being sincere in your original posting, but it certainly didn’t come across that way at all to me (and I assume most of the downvoters). Just another interesting example of how tone doesn’t translate in online forums, I guess.
Relevant Kids in the Hall sketch:
Do you think OP was sincere when they said it was beyond them?
I also don’t see how the video you link to is relevant.
OP wasn’t claiming to be sincere. You are.
Since you don’t see how the link is relevant, I’ll take the time to explain. The character played by David Foley in the Kids in the Hall sketch is not being intentionally sarcastic, but his affect is so sarcastic-seeming that the character played by Kevin MacDonald in the sketch is offended and leaves, despite Foley’s good intentions and desire for human contact.
In the same way, your post, by your own declaration, is not meant to be sarcastic or condescending, but was certainly taken that way by me and probably by a large number of the folks who downvoted it. I hope this simple answer has bought it into your range of understanding.
I’m not claiming op was being sincere. I read him as sincere. It appears others are not. So he is insincere that this is beyond him. Rather that everything I wrote is understandable to him and he chose to be insincere. I imagine it’s for some reason I don’t understand. Do you understand?
Thank you for taking time to explain this to me. It is now in my range of understanding. I do not know why people have downvoted me. I think they disagree with me. I do not know why people upvoted me. I think they agreed with me.
I’m not sure if you take me at face value any more. I think you think I’m being condescending and sarcastic. Are you being insincere?
I am not being insincere.
All my homies vote for Pedro.
can someone fill me in please, I missed the while situation save a couple memes.
Pedro Pascal’s sister is a trans woman. He has been publicly very vocal on the subject of trans rights and inclusion. Consequently, a lot of transphobes, chuds, and miscellaneous fascists have been targeting him for a while and trying to smear his reputation any way they can. I don’t really pay much attention to celebrity stuff so I don’t know to what extent JK Rowling is personally involved in that, but given that she has been a very outspoken anti-trans bigot for some time, I would not be surprised to learn she was egging her followers on to that end.
Heaven forbid someone even suggests JK isn’t an advertiser freindly content creator over her hate speech. Expect the full Karen free speech rant.
Pascal supports his family member, and these troglodytes make it their mission to prevent him from making a living.
I have a rule of thumb in life. If it reminds me of Nazi rhetoric, I stay far away. It is rarely applicable but crucial when it is. I forget sometimes that there are people that not only dont think the same as me, they actually think the opposite.
If it reminds me of Nazi rhetoric, I stay far away.
Then why are you on Lemmy, a place where it’s frequently suggested that all the ills of the world are due to the minority of people in charge of the banking system, and where calls to execute those people en masse are overwhelmingly upvoted?
Big fan of Harry Potter, I guess?
I think you might be muddling criticism of capitalism up with whacko conspiracies?
I don’t think people running banks are considered the be all and end all of capitalism.
It’s the executions I take issue with, not the particulars of who gets executed.
Just looked his sister up and on the photos she looks happy. I’m happy for her.
I’d be happy if Pedro was my brother. I’d never stop smiling
