The ONLY ONLY way to prevent this was if he SHOT his Parents before they could leave an easily accessible gun around! That’s LITERALLY the ONLY way this could have been prevented!
Why he is so swollen in the second pic, how does that work exactly
Nvm this isn’t the afterwards just some weird compression
Guns are plot devices in most media. People are always waving them around and pointing them at each other. Hell even cocking and shooting at each other to make a point.
Without going out of the way to get training, or growing up hunting, our default understanding of guns are symbols of personal power. In our hyper capitalist modern day America that makes guns have real appeal, even though it’s a total distortion of what guns actually do.
It’s sad and dumb, but this exact thing has happened quite a lot. Once or twice, you got a fluke, but once you have a pattern? That represents a problem.
fucking iconic comment, thanks homie 🩷
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Seriously, what did they expect? The first thing you learn before getting a gun is to never assume a gun is unloaded or safe, even if you just checked it. Never point a gun at anything you do not want to shoot. As always, safety rules are writen in the blood.
This could have been a case of someone giving them a gun without going over the basics of how to safely handle them, or of him intentionaly ignoring safety rules for the video.
The first thing you learn before getting a gun
Oh, there are requirements?
Darwin award never fails.
Sad.
Ever since becoming a parent this kind of tragedy really gets to me. I’m glad I don’t have a gun in the house anymore, at least. Consider doing the same, if you’ve got babies. They can be clever before they’re smart, it’s not their fault they wanted to impress their friends.
At the very least, get a trigger lock or firearm safe. We don’t even have kids but I could never live with myself if a relative or neighbor kid hurt themselves or someone else with one of our firearms, so we have a safe.
And check if the lockpickinglawyer already tested said trigger lock.
It’s bit my area of expertise; but the ones he tested where far from safe.
Trigger locks are laughable, or were when I was researching this. I’ve left my revolver to family back in the states (as this one cannot be made UK compliant), but I’m still getting good use out of the fingerprint safe I got for it.
I do miss shooting sometimes, and it was fun to make and test a new cartridge between 45 and 454 Casull, but that’s all behind me now.
Yeah my dad just removed all the firing pins. Worked well.
Good extra layer, wouldn’t use it as a sole safety measure though!
When I was young, my Dad simply didn’t have ammunition in the house. If we went to the range or were going hunting, we’d buy ammo on the way and we’d shoot it all or give away whatever was left over to another shooter.
That’s what it’s like here in Switzerland.
You’re allowed to store guns at home but ammo is heavily restricted.
No, what you say is not correct. You probably think about military service rifles only. But you can buy (and stash a lot of) ammunition as a civilian. The seller only had to make some basic background checks. I think recently, they made it a bit harder and you have also to prove you own the corresponding firearm?
You should teach your kids basic gun safety anyway imo. Because they could go to a friend’s house where there’s a gun.
The only true protection is educating them to not do stupid things.
I plan to, as appropriate. It’ll be less commonplace now we’ve emigrated to the UK.
Living in the UK, I have never seen an actual firearm outside of specialist police and museums. Nor has that presented any problems. shrug
I wouldn’t say I emigrated for any one reason, but fewer guns was one of the… many.
And before anyone says it, the only person to menace me with a knife has been my partner… and I think she was joking.
That’s for her to know :)
I do feel like the media coverage of knife crime is overblown. The violent crime rate here is pretty low, and yet you have to be an adult to buy a seam ripper. Knife sales aren’t the reason for rises in violent crime, inequality is. Hopefully we can begin to address that with a new administration.
I didn’t call her bluff, so who’s to say.
It’s comparatively low, but you take about the level of crime you have I guess, rather than crime you could have. I don’t hold much hope for whatever bizarre Frankenstein’s government is next in charge of the country, but we’ll have to cross that channel when we come to it.
menace me with a knife
Regardless, a knife isn’t any risk to innocent people across the street from the intended victim. A gun on the other hand…
How many knives can a disaffected teen carry/throw per minute?
I wouldn’t seek to downplay how much damage a sufficiently motivated individual with a knife can do in a short space of time, but it is certainly orders of magnitude lower than a firearm in most cases.
How did a minor get their hands on this firearm? Did it belong to the mother?
It’s called THE CONSTITUTION. Look it up, commie.
/s if not obvious enough
The law says 21…so much for the law.
There is no magic gun fairy arming children.
At some point, a “responsible gun owner” owned that gun and allowed it to end up in the hands of a teenager. Any other country would hold them accountable.
There is no magic car theft fair letting kids break into cars…
There is no magic alcohol fair letting kids get alcohol…
You can say that for just about anything… people steal.
The majority of firearms used in crime are stolen or purchased via straw purchases.
So if you’re car is ever stolen and then used to run down someone or commit a crime, you think you should be held responsible right? Or next time you sell your car, same thing?
You’re reinforcing my point, not rebutting it. People steal things that are there to steal. Its why they can steal cars and alcohol but not fighter jets and hand grenades. Things don’t magically pop into existence for people to steal.
The majority of firearms used in crime are stolen or purchased via straw purchases.
Then storage laws and background checks are completely inadequate for vetting gun owners.
So if you’re car is ever stolen and then used to run down someone or commit a crime, you think you should be held responsible right?
We can apply your deeply stupid “laws must be the same for all things” in the other direction too.
Should companies that use high explosives be able to just leave them laying around untracked and shrug off responsibility when they’re stolen and used to kill people? Should you be able to sell explosives to anybody you want with no obligation to ensure they licensed to have them?
The law also says “well regulated militia” but no one cares about that bit.
Commas what do they do?
I love eating my grandma and my cat
I love eating this guy’s grandma too
The word ‘out’, what does it do?
Yeah they do. It’s the national guard, which is pretty well regulated.
Well regulated in this sense means kept in good order, the term “regulations” to mean “government restrictions” didn’t exist at that time.
Well regulated in this sense means kept in good order
A definition that millions of gun owners also fail to meet. How exactly does a militia made up of morbidly obese, mentally ill men with no demonstrable ability to safely handle or use a weapon count as “in good order”?
Ok, I’m gonna assume you get all of your information about America from memes.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Guard_(United_States)#Standards
Both the Army National Guard and Air National Guard are expected to adhere to the same moral and physical standards as their “full-time” active duty and “part-time” reserve federal counterparts.
The National Guard is very fit and professionally trained.
Pretty sure he was referring to the non national guard gun owners.
Are all gun owners members of the National Guard? Are people in the National Guard expected to bring their own guns?
Sounds to me like you’re just pretending that the National Guard is the militia mentioned in the second amendment when it’s clearly not.
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Incredibly moronic way to die.
I don’t think it was accident, I think it was destiny. Cuz, how he die tho…like a G, stupid and pointlessly. He played a stupid game and he won a stupid prize.
Know’m sayn’?
Gnome sane?
On my whiteboard at work
Yao Ming?
Suicide/accidental is a crap way to go out. I’m shooting for “death by misadventure,” myself.
That’s funny, I just watched a Tasting History episode that advised against death by misadventure.
I like that show too!
I’m not sure, a bullet in the head is - among all the others - one of the better ways to go. Maybe preferably at 70, not 17, but still.
I hate to be morbid, but people don’t realize how easy it is to screw up shooting yourself. It’s a shitty way to go unless you know what you’re doing.
From the family’s Facebook:
My wife’s uncle attempted suicide by shooting himself in the head. He not only survived, but he’s mentally disabled now. His wife has to spend the rest of her life changing diapers and caring for him like he’s a child because he scrambled his brains. There’s no hint of the person he used to be anymore; he can’t even speak proper words.
Please don’t do this to your loved ones.
I dunno, maybe with a 12 gauge slug, or maybe buckshot, but, with anything lesser than that, I’d be pretty skeptical that it’s a my preferred choice of death.
It’s less about how I go and more about how I’m remembered.
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When you’re dead, you don’t care anymore about that
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I’ll die trying to pet something I shouldn’t, and at least get to cuddle with a lion cub before mommy lion rips my throat out.
Sounds worth it. Especially if you live to tell the tale a bunch before it finally catches up with you.
Just a lion out there hunting you down john wick style
I nearly got taken out by a momma moose while I was trying to pet her baby in Alaska, there’s a non-zero chance this is how I’ll meet my demise as well.
Wait you
You what
Why?
I saw a baby moose, it was about 5’ tall and I didn’t see the mom anywhere so I figured I could probably pet it and get away but she was standing in the brush line about 50ft away. When I got near the baby the mom charged out of the tree line and my wife drug me back into our truck. I can’t adequately explain why but it’s the same lack of survival skills that lead me to pick up a snapping turtle (in my defence they were in the middle of the freeway and I moved them to the shoulder).
lmao I’m glad your wife was there 😂 I do agree that the turtle had a valid reason!
I’m aiming for death by snu-snu but I’ll probably have to settle for cancer.
Wow… scary how close this is
I wanna go out in one of those embarrassing ways where people don’t discuss it. like discovered with my pants around my ankles swinging in the pantry after trying autoerotic asphyxiation.
Isn’t “misadventure” just aka “accident”?
A specifically reckless sort of accident, yes. But it sounds so much better in an obit.
I’ll grant you that. “Died by aviation misadventure” definitely sounds a lot better than “accidentally drove his paraglider into the side of a barn”
Going for “Killed by The Architects/Guardians” myself
Jesus Christ! Poor kid
Yeah truly, he left this world in a profoundly stupid way
This isn’t news, it’s tabloid.
Guns, how do they work?
The boy appeared to switch off the weapon’s safety and point it at his head
He knew enough about how they work to turn off the safety
Makes you wonder if it was at least on some level intentional.
I don’t know, it wouldn’t really make sense. It’s not the behavior of someone that actually intends to commit suicide.
I think it’s profound stupidity. I know people here are calling it victim blaming, with the implication that he’s a victim of, idk, illegal weapon sales? But you have to admit at 17 years old, it requires profound stupidity to turn off the safety and point a weapon at your own head with your finger on the trigger.
one less idiot around, at least he offed himself instead of some different person
Man, a kid shot themselves and that’s what you have to say?
Play stupid games, and win stupid prizes. 🤡
Sociopathic.
