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        9 days ago

        Sniffies. It’s a web app you don’t even need to install but you can pin it to your homescreen to behave like an app too.

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          Well I wouldn’t say it’s better but it’s definitely less enshittified. Give it time, the owners of Sniffies have given no indication they have the ability to earn anyone’s trust.

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    Let’s take these serious for a moment and pretend that anti zionist = nazi

    and zionist = jew

    Does grindr really want that Jews meet up with nazis unexpectedly in a private place?

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      Nazis on Grindr? You must be kidding. No self respecting nazi would ever choose to be gay…

      /s just in case that needed to be stated…

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          The nazi presence in the furry movement is really under estimated by people who’re outside the subculture. There’s, like… there’s a lot of them in there, guys. Recruiting from persecuted groups is already standard operating procedure for fascists, and the furry community notoriously has both money, a great deal of practice at forming groups that insulate their members from criticism, and a real serious problem with sexism. Unfortunately, it makes for the ideal environment to grow far-right movements.

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        Oh please, it’s always the bible thumping hellfire preaching black man lynching baptist pastor/senator that is caught with three underage dicks in his mouth in an airport men’s room. ALL nazis are gay.

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      People don’t seem to grasp what “Nazi” actually means anymore. That these people literally want to murder others on a large scale.

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    Yeah that’s fucked. If you are going to let people say “No Christians” or “No Muslims” then “No Zionists” ought to be allowed.

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          No, no, antisemitism isn’t about hating jews its about hating zionist. The military industrial complex tells me so. /sarcasm/

          Though thats how alot of people treat it…

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            Just fyi, the slash in /s or /sarcasm isn’t some weird bracket, it’s meant as an XML style closing tag, meaning “end of sarcasm”. In full it would look as follows:

            <sarcasm>Things are going great!</sarcasm>
            

            But people drop the opening tag and the <> for convenience.

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              No, the / has nothing to do with xml. It’s a fake IRC command.

              They were all in the style of /commandname.

              You know, people tend to use sarcasm more in chats than in XML documents.

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                You know, people tend to use sarcasm more in chats than in XML documents.

                <message tone=“annoyed” mood=“indignant”>Speak for yourself</message><snap />

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                I’m aware of slash commands. If it’s a /sarcasm command, why would it be at the end of the statement?
                What’s your source for this? I’m pretty sure “/s” means “end of sarcasm”, borrowed from XML/HTML.

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                I don’t remember ever seeing /s on IRC.
                It’s always meant </sarcasm> to me.

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          I get no Jews as in people of Jewish faith but no Jews as in the ethnicity would get iffy fast. No blacks or no whites or no mulattoes or whatever can be a bit oof even though everyone has their preference

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      More importantly, what’s a Zionist doing on Grindr? Nethaniadolf doesn’t seem the type to be very rainbow friendly.

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        Well, not every zionist likes Netanyaho. In fact I think even among them the majority dislike him because basically most of almost every group dislikes Netanyaho ATM. Hes only still in power because of political leverage, fear, etc. Sort of a “Hes a evil psychopath but what if we get instability in this turbulent war time by removing him?”

        Also I’ve 100% encountered zionist LGBT people on dating apps. They’ve been either Jewish or Centrist Libs.

        Or because of “poor relations” between Islam and LGBT… Which is mostly just any religion and LGBT. Seeing zionism as a lesser evil to Islamic fundamentalism that they associate with Palestinian Nationalism.

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        My autistic ass is going to be nitpicky as well. Zionism deals directly with people who identify with a religion and where they ought to live. I mean it also vaguely alludes to aspects of jewish ethnicity’s since zionism likely also is concerned with athiest but ethnically jewish people unless I am mistaken. There is a lot wrapped up in it.

        Also religions have specific outcomes they desire as well.

        Regardless, my point people should be allowed to be anti-zionist on Grindr if they can be anti-other-vaguely-equivalent-things.

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          Just to confirm for you (from an atheist jew) yes zionism is also concerned with atheist jews. Also, yeah people should absolutely be allowed to say no zionists, I certainly wouldn’t want to date someone who doesn’t care about Palestinians.

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            TBH, I don’t know why a zionist would want to date someone who’d even put “no zionists” in their profile in the first place if anything this is just encouraging everyone to waste their time.

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              A lot of young right wingers are complaining that people knowing their political stances makes it hard to date. They’re hoping to trick people into dating them, effectively.

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                I don’t see how this would matter though. In a dating app, someone who refuses to date zionists will notice if pro-zionism is on their profile and not match with them or even block them. If there is no mentioned zionism on the rightwinger’s profile and the rightwinger is trying to trick people into dating them whether the anti-zionist is able to post “No Zionists” on their profile is immaterial, the rightwinger will try to match with them regardless.

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                  If a large portion of people are putting it in their profiles, NOT putting it can make you stand out?

                  If no one can, they won’t stand out. Sure they could lie, but now they don’t have to

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              That’s not the reason for it. They want to ensure it isn’t normalized. If you start seeing a lot of people openly saying they’re anti-zionist, people who seem reasonable and generally agree with you, then you may consider that the propoganda you’ve been fed saying it’s wrong inst accurate.

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        Every single religion has extremists. Make a religion, you just made reliigious extremists. Support a religion, you support the same religion as religious extremists are supporting.

        Religions support politics, and politicians, . They have to do that to achieve theocracy.

        Every single religion tries to pull this bullshit. christians? Yep. muslims? Yep. jewish? Yep. hindu? Yep. It never ends. Keep religion very far away from everything, always. It ruins everything it touches.

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          zionism is not a religion though. it is a terrorist organization. can grindr allow you to say “no nazis”?

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    I feel like they actually could make their own app with blackjack and hookers.

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    You guys are all conspiracy theorists.

    What actually happened: someone who knew someone at Grindr said “man, anti-zionism is really gaining ground on Grindr, huh?” The Grindr employee said “Huh?” “Oh yeah, its like on every other profile.” “Huh…”

    Then a few employees chat about it, until someone mentions it to their ad exec, who says “HWAT???” The ad exec knows that the Israeli government is committing war crimes - but they also know that as soon as the right wing media picks up on this, Grindr will become the “the secret deviant app for jew-hating gay nazis”, and they DO NOT want to spend their weekend handling that shit storm.

    Hence the rule.

    You can still say “Pro Palestine” in your bio.

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        Morally better? I mean, I think so - wanting to stay out of a conflict, to me, seems more morally defensible than actively supporting the bad side. It isn’t the perfect moral position, but I think it is better.

        More likely on a factual basis? Yes. Absolutely.

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          Semantics. That’s what this seems to boil down to.

          And, no, they did not “stay out of a conflict” by capitulating (in advance even) to Zionists’ apartheid views of the world.

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            I mean, this is literally the basis of the trolley problem, and the divergence of several major schools of moral thought.

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              Umm. No. No offense, but that’s patently ridiculous.

              A corporation chose a distasteful policy to avoid the possibility of losing profits due to negative press. There are no lives at risk. The only risk is “brr! line must go up”

              To equate such morally detestable behavior to minimizing actual suffering and loss is bizarre and nonsensical at best. At worst, it’s nothing more than helping whitewash the vile and disgusting crimes of an apartheid warmongering regime.

              There is no nuance here. They capitulated to genocidal bigotry to maximize profits.

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      If that were the case, the exec needs to be fired, because this is an obvious shit storm waiting to blow in from the opposite direction

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        I mean, its possible you’re correct. But my point is that, no, Grindr is probably not, like, run by the zionists. It’s just trying to stick to a good policy for anyone to stick to - don’t get involved in a conflict in the middle east.

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    Alternative phrases to use:

    • No reactionaries
    • No genocide supporters
    • No apartheid supprters
    • No IOZ/GDF supporters
    • Class conscious workers only
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    I bet they are fine if you say you support “settlers” though.

    That term pisses me off so much. What human scum those people must be

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      Maybe throw “no religious nationalists” in for good measure. State religions don’t have the best track record in the history books.

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    Not difficult to realize why when you realize who owns it along with many of the other dating apps.

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    This is such a weird stance for American companies and politicians. It truly blows my mind. You can say whatever you want about Americans or anything here. You can even say the president is a pedophile and it’s fine (even if it wasn’t true) but the second you say something bad about Israel because they suck everyone starts flipping their shit.

    It’s like our whole country is secretly run by Israel or something.

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      How is nobody calling out the fact that millions of Americans think that creating the State of Israel is supposed to fulfill their sadistic, hateful, apocolyptic prophecy fantasy of eternal punishment for people that dare to test their fickle faith. This is a large part of why this world sucks right now. Other than this simple quagmire, world control is about the almighty profit, but this is where these Americans will act counter to profit.

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      It’s like our whole country is secretly run by Israel or something.

      Careful buddy. This is an antisemitic trope. The real reason is much simpler. America is just a really evil imperialist entity that will back a fascist settler colonial state in the middle east for geopolitical/oil reasons rather than it being controlled by Israel.

      Israel has no ability to control America. Its population is too small and it is almost entirely dependent on US support. If America says jump Israel says how high. America is weird about Israel because it desperately wants to be and it desperately wants to be because the countries voiced ideals do not match is actual reality.

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        I didn’t say it’s run by Jews I said Israel. If you haven’t noticed Israel is a country that is separate from ours and has been acting horribly. I am allowed to call that out. Don’t start that bullshit. Not all Jewish people agree with Israel they use that as an excuse to cover their atrocities and you are only helping them.

        If Israel has no control here why does our president do everything their president asks him to? Seems like they have some form of control even if its not stated explicitly

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        Except talk bad about Israel and get blackballed or fired. Talk bad about Palestine and nothing.

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      This is such a weird stance for American companies and politicians. It truly blows my mind. You can say whatever you want about Americans or anything here. You can even say the president is a pedophile and it’s fine (even if it wasn’t true) but the second you say something bad about Israel because they suck everyone starts flipping their shit.

      With you so far.

      It’s like our whole country is secretly run by Israel or something.

      DANGER WILL ROBINSON: That’s cutting it pretty darn close to the whole Jewish cabal bullshit. Your country is not secretly run by Israel. It’s run by reactionary old farts, who’s more afraid of being called antisemitic, than they value human rights.

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          You are equating Israel to all Jewish people.

          No I’m not. I’m saying it’s close to the rhetoric from 100 years ago, not the same.

          That’s offensive!

          To whom? I personally find it offensive, that you would try such a cheap trick to end this argument. Purposefully misinterpreting my comment in an attempt to get me to look antisemitic? Seriously?

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          Yeah pretending that the state of Israel represents all Jewish people seems kinda antisemitic to me. Just erase Jewish people all over the world.