Firefox is some other type of engine that renders pages differently and doesn’t always work the same but brave has Chrome underneath it so it’s the same thing and it’s fine and eases all the same extensions and you like it
promotion, especially as a ‘security focused’ browser with ‘uncommon’ features.
I use it on android. On any other system, I would use Firefox but on android, I heavily prefer Brave because it’s better, faster, has more features, etc.
Firefox keeps adding stuff I don’t want, Chrome keeps removing stuff I do want.
I wish there was a browser that just does what I want, and lets me turn off the stuff I don’t want.
QuteBrowser. You control it completely. you can add scripts you want, remove stuff you don’t want. I have mine tied in with my bitwarden account so easy password management. I have a script that skips all youtube ads and has never been detected by google because technically I’m “watching the ads” it just immediately skips them. it’s tied in with greasemonkey so it makes adding customs scripts for whatever site I use a breeze. It has vim style navigation so it’s super quick to move around and don’t need to use a mouse.
I love it, I’ll never use a different browser again. Plus the dev for it is really cool and very helpful.
A good chunk of websites are just broken with Firefox and their not even broken in obvious ways. Some times they fail to load, sometimes they render weirdly, sometimes their just unresponsive. I use Firefox as my main browser but I always have something chromium based as my backup for when a website I wanna use just doesn’t work. A lot of the time I don’t even think to use it and assume the site would be broken on chromium as well but nope. Its almost always Firefox:/.
Can you give any examples where we can see these differences?
The royal mail tracking website for example brings up an obnoxious full page block on top of the actual content. Only happens on Firefox on android. Chrome worked fine.
Edit: also, just for reference, I’m amazed anyone actually needs examples of this. Its very well known that different browsers have different supported functionalities and unless the webdevs are properly customising styles and scripts for different platforms their gonna deviate. Thusly its not surprising most stuff only works as designed on Chrome since that’s the only Web browser that’s guaranteed to be tested on (it has the lions size of market share, to the point Firefox barely even registers).
Haven’t had trouble with Firefox for a long time. Sure, I also have chrome sitting somewhere on the hard drive as a backup but didn’t need to use it for months if not years. Started to use Waterfox on one pc and I’m happy with that one too.
Ive browser hopped a bit, Im currently on brave because it has a good vertical tabs integration and works decently well. Having to use another browser because a page won’t load correctly is infuriating to me. After reading the comments here, I’d like to switch. I’m guessing Firefox is my best option huh?
Vivaldi is nice. Created by the Opera creators. Cookie removal, antitracking, etc out of the box.
I was browser hopping a bunch lately. Stayed on Zen or a while but confusing it for multiple devices was a pain and there was always a new update that broke a mod, so I kept looking. Somehow I landed on edge, mostly due to how it did vertical tabs. But then I recently found out that standard Firefox pretty much does them just like that now, so I’m on that now.
I have Firefox but gave Brave a shot too. Works fine for me. I’ll use anything that gets around YouTube ads.
Try vivaldi. Much less fuckery than Brave
I got my dad to try Firefox and he said it drained his phone battery like no tomorrow, so now he uses brave because it doesn’t
I’ve been using Firefox for years on my phone with no such problems, so I can’t exactly verify what he’s saying
It’s possible dad was lying.
I use FF on android, but on my (ancient) desktop, it just runs like shit, while any of the chromium variants “just work”.
Somewhere along the line Brave tricked people into thinking they weren’t owned by a couple of really bigoted dudes.
In fairness Brian Bondy might be a good dude, but Brendan Eich sucks.
Do you have a source that resumes everything bad about Brave in one neat package ? I am tired of searching for sources everywhere and not finding everything I need each time someone ask me about it
Been using duckduck go for a while now, can recommend.
No idea it’s been plain to me is Brave is kind of dodgy to the point I’ve never even tried it.
Don’t look at me, I’ve been an Opera fan for more years than I care to admit.
Even after it’s been sold to a Chinese company?
Opera, like Edge and Brave is just Chrome in a trenchcoat
RIP Presto :( I wish they had open-sourced it when they abandoned it
I saw recent versions of Opera and it’s looks like dogshit, how do you use it guys? (and why?)
It’s a combination of having used it forever and it has all the features I want. Part might also be that subversive little me likes using something not everyone knows exist.
I mean there is a lot of other browsers which offer even more features (and also better privacy & interface). Also I don’t think that people don’t know what opera is, in my country it’s was (and maybe is) very popular
cause most people just google a chrome alternative. they dont do research. brave gives them a surafce level adblocking, and they feel fine with it.
Doesn’t Firefox still have brand recognition though? I’d have thought even people who answer “google” to “what browser do you use” would have heard of firefox, and therefore looked it up rather than using the neurons to ask, “what alternative browsers are there?”
You’re assuming people know things about the tech field. Very few do. I mean, those of us that do recognize the name Firefox. But someone who heard from a friend that Google went on trial for bad monopoly practices and wants to deGooglefy has no idea what’s available or what any of it means.
Because vanilla Firefox has to be tinkered with to get the best out of it and the average user is not able to do it
As a user of Firefox from 1-3 and quantum to current… What exactly are you tinkering with? Install ublock and be done.
Dude I use firefox as main browser too, I’m not saying that brave is better, read my comment again.
What I’m saying is that you and I are not the average user. Our moms are the average user, our brother that got a DUI last friday is the average user, our anti-vax aunt is the average user…
Read their comment again.
They didn’t say that you said brave was better.
They said that folks barely need to tinker with anything, and was asking what you need to tinker with to make it suitable for you.and was asking what you need to tinker with to make it suitable for you.
For myself I like to add a couple addons, like u-Block origins with automatic cookie reject and containers for when I have to browse IG or Google stuff, plus some tweaks in the about:config for disabling telemetry and such.
My point is that many people either don’t feel like going through this process, even if it takes just a few minutes, or don’t care about privacy at all, they just fancy an ad blocker. So they may end up installing Brave.
I’ll give you one of many examples I have: I’ve taken guitar lessons for the last year and a half and every time my teacher put a background track on youtube we had to sit through 30 seconds of ads, while he complained about it every single time. For the first month I tried to persuade him to install FF + u-Block, but he kept saying things like “I’m not a computer guy”. Even after I offered to do it myself, he was afraid that “there may be some sort of virus” so at one point I just stopped suggesting it. A couple months ago he installed Brave because a frend of his told him to and that was it.And that’s because what me and you see as “barely tinkering”, as you put it, other people see it as this herculean labor they cannot even imagine to approach. Of course this is because of a lack of culture on the matter, but most of people don’t care about making a culture at all, they just want to be spoon fed with stuff that works, no matter what happens under the hood.
Any more so than vanilla Chrome?
No, in fact the <u>average</u> user doesn’t tinker with Chrome either
In what way?
I switched recently to Librewolf, but as a long time Firefox user (of which Librewolf is a fork anyway) it didn’t seem unusable out of the box. There are some settings for privacy and studies etc you mght want to change, but they are all very obvious in the GUI preferences.
I did personally go into about:config to set a few things, like not allowing searches from the address bar because I’m weird, but what makes Firefox no good for the average user?
The typical conversation I have is:
- Hey, how don’t you have ads on Youtube?
- Well, its easy: you install Firefox and then…
and that’s where I loose most of the people, that extra step.
Me and you can go down on the
about:configall day long to dissect every aspect of privacy we care about. For the other 90% of people, even just going to Mozilla extensions manager and downloading u-Block Origin is too much.Bear-proof trash can theorem…
Don’t extra step
" how come you don’t have YouTube ads??"
“Firefox”
Later they come to you “but i still have ads!” THEN ya hit them with config
Config is just to add ublock. I’d hardly call that config.
