Waterworld. At the time the most expensive movie ever made and the most spectacular flop of all time.
A lot of the Movies Sony makes now. Morbius, Kraven, etc.
marvel
Perhaps, Bucky Larson: Born to Be a Star. I have a weird relationship with this movie. I know it’s shit but I can’t help but be fascinated by it. It’s a fun movie to make your friends and family watch with you so you can watch their reaction. I wouldn’t even say it’s so bad it’s good. It’s bad but entertaining at the same time. I watch it and think “how the fuck did this get made?”
Battleship. It’s just such a bizarre license for a movie, and certainly one nobody ever asked for. (Well, outside Hasbro execs clearly desperate for another Transformers-level hit.)
Oddly watchable in a big dumb fun kind of way, at least. And hey, it has Jesse Plemons not playing a total sociopath, so that’s neat.
It’s shit but also entertaining. I kinda wanna watch that one again.
Ohh i forgot another one of my favorite. Ghost in the Shell live action. I love that movie because of Scarlett Johansson, but if you watch the original anime, everything just feels better, and the live action is simply unnecessary.
‘Live action’ remakes of animated classics, or any remake of an already good film.
Remake the ones that had potential. but failed in the execution.
All those Disney live action remakes are sooo bad. People just don’t have the expressiveness of cartoon characters. The Lion King was the worst. The characters were animated and still wooden
I think Christopher Robin and maleficent were good. As long as they’re telling a new story it’s fun to see the old characters. When it’s just the exact same plot but a little darker and live action over animation it’s so dumb. Our CGI just ain’t good enough to justify that.
They’re remaking Moana already, and still a new movie, relative.
There’s a distinction to point out between “absolutely no business getting made” vs “the final product turned out to be shit”. I can’t really think of anything that belongs to the former… I haven’t actually seen most of the films mentioned here so far, except the SW sequels… which turned out to be shit, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t have made SW sequels at all: they just shouldn’t have made them shit.
I was more curious about the former but got a lot more of the latter. Unfortunately, it would be difficult to phrase the question to get the desired result. Oh well.
My initial thought seeing the title was Megalopolis but I don’t know the budget for it. Haven’t seen it yet, so I can’t speak to the quality of it, but I had read a ton of shit talking about how hard it was for Copolla to get it made and then distributed after he did make it. It sounds like the only thing that fits the question.
Definitely worth the watch
Mortal Engines
It seemed like a prime IP to get its time on the big screen, being that it’s got a lot to build off of. But the sheer number of characters that were introduced throughout the movie and the ‘all of this and more awaits,’ really had me overwhelmed with having any continued interest in the “main characters” as the movie entered its third act. There were more issues, but that was the one that really sealed its fate imo.
Im pretty sure I watched this movie but I cant remember how it went
The Hobbit trilogy. It’s hard to understand how Peter Jackson could mess up movie after movie after movie like that.
I like them all ¯_(ツ)_/¯
(Yes I had read the book before they were made)
Simple:
He and his crew had 2 years of prep for Lotr, storyboards, finding locations, making props and sets, etc.
New Line Cinemas forced him to do that same prep in 6 months for the Hobbit. Allegedly they didn’t even fully finish the script and had to cut in Del Toro scenes.
I think it was Prime’s Theater where I learnt that for the Smaug fight scene for movie 2, they planed the set the night before, painted the next morning, filmed, and the paint was still wet when the sets were taken down.
The forced trilogy structure also really hurt it. When the Hobbit film adaptation was initially announced (at the time just two movies, even), I thought that it didn’t make any sense to adapt a book shorter than any of the individual LotR installments into multiple movies. When they revealed it would be a trilogy, I knew it was some studio decision to milk it for money and didn’t have high hopes.
There is actually a fan edit floating around online somewhere called “The Hobbit: Extended Edition” which, contrary to what the name might imply, cuts down the trilogy into a single movie of comparable length to the LotR Extended films. Still not perfect, but a huge improvement in quality just from cutting out all of the extra garbage that didn’t need to be there.
There are a few different edits, but my fave is the M4 Book Edit. It only follows what was covered in the book and cuts out all the additions like the Kili/Tauriel love story (and Tauriel is cut out completely along with Azog until the end), the Dol Guldur stuff, and Gandalf’s escapades outside the party. It cuts the trilogy down to 4hr18min. Aside from a few unavoidably janky transitions, it’s great.
I absolutely adore it for 2 reasons: One, I really dislike the trilogy as a whole, but that’s because of the bloat, which M4 gets rid of. Two, the older I get the harder it is to go through LOTR as often as I like. I usually do an LOTR rewatch once a year, and tried to add in the Hobbit, but usually stopped after the first. It’s just too much time for not enough payoff. With the M4 edit, I’ll get stoned and watch it 5 or 6 times a year.
For as much flack as Jackson gets the for The Hobbit movies, he did a phenomenal job where it counts. There really is a wonderful, true-to-source Hobbit adventure scattered throughout the 8hr52min bloat that is the trilogy.
For funsies, if you like the other bits there’s another fan edit called Durin’s Folk and the Hill of Sorcery that’s 1hr8min that covers Gandalf’s adventure after he fucks off from the party at Mirkwood.
All of the Jurassic Parks sequels.
JP 3 is the best! 92 minutes - all of the action, no tired butt.
Even the Spielberg’s sequel?
Lost World was alright, 3 was meh. The rest are a big bag of:
Especially the Spielberg sequel… After the success of the first movie, Crighton wrote a Lost World novel as a sequel to the FILM, not the first book.
Spielberg jettisoned the book and did his own sequel instead. :(
I really wanted to see the chameleon dinosaurs on film.
Even the original was a massive disappointment if you had read the book.
Yep!
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny
lmao
That’s literally why it was my choice. It’s one of the biggest budget films ever… and also one of the biggest flops ever.
Was it? Or are those numbers just Hollywoid accounting. I mean, on paper everybHarry Potter movie was a flop…
At least it was better than Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
Did we watch the same movie? I marathoned all the films and Dial of Destiny is dire. To be honest, only the first film is truly great. I’d probably rank them 1, 3, 4, 2, 5.
Ohh yes, temple of doom is honestly annoying. Last crusade pulled the franchise back from whatever mess is 2.
No way temple of doom is worse than crystal skull right? I guess if you ignore the racism.
Racism? Fuck that. The annoying wise kid and the constantly screaming woman killed that movie!
Crusade > Raiders.
Is it worth watching though?
I couldn’t sit through Grandpa Pants and his Crystal Skull.It was a classic 80s adventure movie. Of course it’s not that old, but it fit the formula perfectly. It’s entertaining, but I honestly don’t remember much about it.
I felt it was significantly worse than Crystal Skull.
The Last Jedi.
I left the theatre angry that they spent enough money to take mankind back to the moon on something that stupid.
Is this the one with horses in space?? I fuckin hated that. Perfectly encapsulated the overdone-ness of it all
No, the horses were in Rise of Skywalker.
The Last Jedi was the one with the “Can you hear me now?” gags, and Luke tossing the lightsaber away.
I think they meant the horse-like things on the casino planet.
Oh god, right enough, I’d forgotten about those, and that whole casino thing! God damn, I hated that movie…
And yet… it’s my favorite post-OT movie. It could’ve used another draft to tighten a couple things up here and there, but it was good.
Now… TRoS is one of the worst films I’ve ever seen in my life and is the only Star Wars property I’ve only seen a single time and never will watch again. Hell I watched Book of Boba Fett twice. Shit, I’ve watched In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale twice. I’d have to go back to Battlefield Earth to think of an equally terrible film.
But when watching The Last Jedi I feel nothing but joy.
I see why they made it but really the ip must be toxic because there’s no reason they cant make these movies.
I can’t leave it at that. I have to add some details.
Both the empire and the rebels repeatedly made tactical decisions so stupid a five-year old would know better. The opening battle involved sending unprotected bombers against a ship with anti-bomber defences and keeping the enemy commander talking on the phone to delay his response. That works in a Mel Brooks movie, not in Star Wars.
They killed a fan-favourite character off-screen. What, was the puppet too old to reprise its role?
The empire’s main guy decided to chase the rebels down instead of destroying them immediately. For fun, I guess.
Phasma’s a badass. Except that she capitulates at the first sign of personal danger.
All Holdo had to say was “yes, there’s a plan. Not telling you what because of operational secrecy”. Instead she expected Poe to blindly follow orders when he’d already shown he couldn’t do that.
“Oh no, the sacred texts!” …that you attempted to burn a moment ago.
I highly highly recommend this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuuDTnMPMgc
I think you’ll like it a lot. I realized that bathos is what I hated about the Last Jedi. They killed so many truly deep moments to have stupid jokes. They couldn’t let anything just be serious. It ruined the tone of the movie, couldn’t decide if they wanted to be a comedy or a drama, and so they did neither.
All Holdo had to say was “yes, there’s a plan. Not telling you what because of operational secrecy”. Instead she expected Poe to blindly follow orders when he’d already shown he couldn’t do that.
Well, he did fine following orders in the first movie, and then they changed the entire character in the second movie but kept the same name. I have no idea why they did that.
My favorite bit:
Leia gives Rey a pendant and tells her that she can use that to track them wherever they go.
In the SAME SCENE, with NO CUTS, they are tracked by the first order and shout “THAT’S IMPOSSIBLE!”
You just described, IN THE SAME SCENE, how it is, in fact, possible.
Bonus: Putting a tracker in the Falcon was how the Death Star found Yavin IV in the very first movie.
You expect a movie director only interested in pretty scenes to write a good plot!?
… your name must be Kathleen Kennedy…
+ Rogue One.
You take that back! It spawned andor which is also amazing. Rogue one proves they can actually make a gritty star wars film that shows a broken universe wouldn’t be all good vs evil bullshit.
I didn’t think I could dislike Rogue One until I watched Andor. After finishing Andor and then rewatching Rogue One, I felt disappointed that it wasn’t quite as good.
Not that it means Rogue One is a bad Star Wars film, but that Andor is just that good. I don’t think they’ll ever make another piece of Star Wars media that can surpass it.
WTF Rogue One is awesome
Rogue One is a shitfest for a variety of reasons:
The original writer director didn’t start with a script, he started with a supercut of other sci fi films and used that to make a script.
Even when he had a script, he spent an hour a day shooting off script for things that looked cool, but served no purpose.
So when the first trailers came out, they were full of gibberish footage that was never actually used in the movie.
https://www.polygon.com/2017/1/6/14195898/rogue-one-star-wars-trailer-jyn-erson
Then he got fired and a new writer director was brought in, one who said his super power was he never liked Star Wars.
https://theplaylist.net/tony-gilroy-rogue-one-podcast-20180405/
“Because that was my superpower. A) I don’t like ‘Star Wars’—not that I don’t like it, but I’ve never been interested in ‘Star Wars’ ever, so I had no reverence for it whatsoever, I was unafraid about that and they were in such a swamp… they were in so much, terrible, terrible trouble that all you could do was improve their position.”
So you get conflicting scenes, one where Cassian has no trouble murdering an innocent informant, but not long after gets all sweaty and conflicted when it’s time to assassinate a legitimate military target.
https://youtu.be/LORtuZ0ISF4#t=48s
vs.
No character growth, no arc, just in one scene he has no trouble murdering an innocent guy WHO HELPED HIM BTW, but later refuses to take out a military target HE WAS SUPPOSED to kill.
To say nothing of crapping all over the iconic opening of Star Wars by having Vader watch the Death Star plans fly away, personally, with his own eyes.
No character growth, no arc, just in one scene he has no trouble murdering an innocent guy WHO HELPED HIM BTW, but later refuses to take out a military target HE WAS SUPPOSED to kill.
Yeah, it’s almost like the target he was about to assassinate could be the only person in the galaxy who knows how to take out the weapon he just witnessed level a city.
To say nothing of crapping all over the iconic opening of Star Wars by having Vader watch the Death Star plans fly away, personally, with his own eyes.
Those two scenes line up perfectly and imo are quite satisfying when watching the two films back to back. In what way does Rogue One’s ending “crap all over” A New Hope’s opening?
I’m not going to read all that shit: Rogue One was fucking awesome.
about 2/3 of what they’re saying is about the production and trailers before the movie was released. Other critiques about no character growth for Andor, but not mentioning Jyn’s arc at all.
Also Rogue One brought us Andor, so even if it was a terrible movie, it spawned some of the best TV in the last 5 years, which says a lot about the movie and the characters.
Which is why you’ll never know Rogue One is trash. LOL.
Yep I walked out of the theater about halfway in
Same. I got as far as “Yer a
wizardrebel now!” and was like “Nope!” Took 3 full tries before I finished it.The Rebel Moon movies are better than Rogue One and that’s saying something.
The Rebel Moon movies are better than Rogue One
Woah slow down there. I can understand someone not liking Rogue One, but the trash that is Rebel Moon is no way better.
Rebel Moon is worth it just to see the Space Nazis get wrecked. LOL.
It’s pretty funny that it still turned out to be the best Star Wars film since the OG trilogy.
Empire Strikes Back is similar in it’s excellent story which somehow survived the shitstorm of fuckups and changes
I dunno, I think the best of the Disney versions is still Force Awakens. The big complaint is “Well, it’s just Star Wars…” which is true… but it’s Star Wars without George Lucas. They had to prove they could do what Lucas did without Lucas and I think they succeeded in that.
Then Last Jedi shit the bed. Then Carrie Fisher died which painted them into a corner with Rise of Skywalker. Force Awakens was Han, Last Jedi was Luke, Rise of Skywalker was supposed to be Leia… 😢
Cats
The moment they announced Cats I knew it wasn’t going to work.
First, the story sucks. A bunch of cats prancing around and learning not to be a dick to that one cat.
Second, Cats is a spectacle. The reason you go see Cats in a theater is for the spectacle. Everyone is dressed up and dancing around. It’s meant to be an experience. You can’t translate that to film.
I support the idea of making a cats movie. Just not like that. Should have been more costumes then cgi. Youre audience is furrys… so do furrys…
Just watch the Andrew Lloyd Webber theather version. It’s by far the best.
What, you didn’t like the butthole cut?
