So… he knows that… like… Israel would be in the blast radius and Jerusalem and Tel Aviv probably affected by a shit ton of radiation….
He knows that he’s not the one who’s going to be pushing the button, but that his rabid out-for-blood base won’t even think about that. He’s just throwing them meat.
“The left are the real violent racists! Anyway, we should nuke Gaza. Filthy animals.”
-Magamorons
You can’t be a racist if they’re not real humans!
Its literally him
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Ghouls like him love Israel, it’s just all those… you know, those people who live there
You assume that these guy know much about anything except corruption, graft, and drug fueled sex orgies.
At Farmers, they know a thing or two about drug fueled sex orgies.
Nevermind all the other obvious reasons this is terrible but I’m sure Egypt would have some objections to being blasted by a nearby nuke.
Maybe the cunt is waiting for suitable wind direction before nuking.
Israel is rumored to have tactical nukes that are much smaller yield than the large ICBMs we hear about all the time. Super destructive force in only 1 or 2 km blast radius, which would even fit inside a small area like Gaza. Of course, in addtition to devastating Gaza, there would still be fallout and issues over Israel, and using them in this manner is definitely Not OK. However, I can believe that there are some deluded people in government (both in Israel and in the US) who would view that as acceptable.
Russia would immediately nuke them. It would be the end game for Israel. Hopefully they aren’t that stupid.
Russia wouldn’t get involved. Many of the Jewish Mafia reside in Israel and are essential to maintaining Putin’s power in the country. Russia in many ways would be more inclined to encourage Israel to use nukes to cause destabilization in US politics.
I don’t understand why Republicans are so strongly on Israel’s side at this point. I think almost everyone was on Israel’s side on Oct 7th but since then there have been over 35,000 Palestinian deaths, including women and children, and their infrastructure has been obliterated. Israeli losses since Oct 7th only come to 260 soldiers.
Why would anyone suggest nuking Gaza? Oct 7th was terrible but it wasn’t perpetrated by the millions of people in Gaza. It was perpetrated by the terrorist group that rules Gaza and, at this point, it seems they aren’t much of a threat.
The only reasons I could see for nuking Gaza are:
- To kill all Gaza s before the new crop of radicals being cultivated by Israel’s brutality become ripe.
- To try to create a broader conflict with the Islamic world.
Racism. They don’t view brown people, especially brown muslims as human beings.
They literally believe every single man, woman, and child in Gaza is part of Hamas, and therefore a terrorist.
They have no capability for empathy and can’t imagine a world in which a citizen of a foreign nation can disagree with the ruling party, despite about half the country he is part of ruling disagreeing with him.
They are also financially motivated to unconditionally back Israel because of lobbying, or corruption, whatever you prefer to call it.
I don’t understand why Republicans are so strongly on Israel’s side at this point. I think almost everyone was on Israel’s side on Oct 7th but since then there have been over 35,000 Palestinian deaths, including women and children, and their infrastructure has been obliterated. Israeli losses since Oct 7th only come to 260 soldiers.
Because it’s turned from a real issue with it’s real horrors and complexities into a partisan/cultural wedge issue.
Why would anyone suggest nuking Gaza? Oct 7th was terrible but it wasn’t perpetrated by the millions of people in Gaza. It was perpetrated by the terrorist group that rules Gaza and, at this point, it seems they aren’t much of a threat.
Might be important to note that it’s still an ongoing thing, with civilians still captive or missing. So talking about it in the past tense might be missing an important reason for Israel’s extreme behavior.
Part of it is due to fundamentalist evangelical Christians, who believe that Israel needs to firmly own the region in order to bring about the apocalypse. See: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/05/14/half-of-evangelicals-support-israel-because-they-believe-it-is-important-for-fulfilling-end-times-prophecy/
This is the same reason that Trump moved the US embassy to Jerusalem, and former Australian prime minister, a devout evangelical Christian, tried to.
Somebody got dumped by his boyfriend.
this sort of homophobia isn’t helping.
out of all the queer guys I’m friends with, exactly zero of them have detonated nukes in response to their boyfriends breaking up with them.
so all that’s left is you bashing a piece of shit, not for being a piece of shit, but because he kinda seems gay.
kindly, respectfully, fuck off with this shit.
Hey yo linds, i don’t think they wanna render the area uninhabitable, o ye lord of the dipshits
only your science denying base might think it was a good idea to go be settlers then
Back in 2017 or so, I had a full on MAGA coworker who was ecstatic about the migrant detention centers at the border. If anything, he felt we weren’t torturing them enough. One day, he dropped a line that was so heinous it still sticks with me to this day: “we used to do the same to the Japanese and no one cared about it then, so why is everyone up in arms about it now?”
All this to say I’m not at all surprised they’re saying this now. They’ve always felt this way, and they know how despicable it is.
Fwiw, the dude was a 50-something year old Israeli immigrant. He also joked about wanting to join the military to “practice on live targets”
I hate this timeline so much
Not to defend the viewpoint, but I assume he was referring to interment camps and not nuclear bombing. That would be more analogous to the border detentions.
What’d you say back to him or do?
I knew better than to engage. The guy was a nutter. He got laid off shortly after that thankfully.
Bonus story about this fucker. When I adopted a dog, he told me that “in five years you won’t give a shit about the dog and will only care about your boyfriend”. Eight years later, my girlfriend and I co-parent the same dog like she’s our daughter.
Your coworker has serious mental health issues. I hate the party but I also hate that our mental health system won’t address the negative impact religion plays in forming negative views and that our laws prevent therapists and those in mental health from doing their actual jobs.
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“we used to do the same to the Japanese and no one cared about it then, so why is everyone up in arms about it now?”
One of the many shameful moments of American history conveniently left out of grade school history classes.
This was definitely mentioned multiple tribes even i was in school.
Lindsey is part of the swamp. He’s a Christian Zionist, a doomsday Christian. These types of Christians want to hasten the Day of Judgement. Pretty much they’re psychopaths thanks to the Scofield Reference Bible.
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Number one rule of Christian Narcissism: That rule was written for the others. It doesn’t apply to me. I’m not doing anything wrong.
I am christian because I say I am, therefor everything I do is christian and thus righteous.
You are giving them way too much credit. Any combination of “god wants me to” with “God works in mysterious ways” and “the will of God is 100% infallibly and unerringly good” can justify pretty much any heinous act you can think of.
I agree with you 100%. In my belief, it is God who wills when Judgement Day comes. It is not the will of a human. Christians and Zionists together think they can some how bypass the will of God.
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I bet they would be off the rails no matter of the literature choices
If it’s okay that he calls for mass murder of innocent civilians, is it okay too then that we call for the murder of him and his family?
I mean, it’s a horrible thing I am suggesting, I know, but I would call for the death of one named and st most ten unnamed innocent individual, whereas he’s calling for the death of millions… I think my horrible suggestion is way, WAY less bad than his.
Seriously though, leave his family alone. Don’t harm the innocent .He himself though…?
There’s a Facebook tag group called “OP getting hammered harder than Lindsay Graham’s tonsils at a truck stop” and that’s what I think of when I see his name.
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There’s nothing homophobic about acknowledging that two or more enthusiastically consenting adult gentleman may jackhammer upon each others’ tonsils in the privacy of their own bedroom and/or truck stop.
I think it’s also not homophobia, and perhaps even being an ally, to point out when the people constantly trying to demonize the LGBT+ community are being hypocritical about it. And it’s not because they are gay or bi, it’s because it reveals how twisted their motivations are.
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It also plays up the trope that any older unmarried man must secretly be gay
I gotta give these people credit. It must take a massive amount of effort to try and be this consistently on the wrong side of history. Like, at some point, it has to be deliberate…
They think they’re on the right side of history. It’s 100% deliberate. They never admit they are wrong about anything because the thought is completely foreign to them. Right wing boomers absolutely believe they are 100% in the right on every single issue. They can’t even imagine they aren’t.
boomers
Why specifically call out people over 60 here…?
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Because they vote republican by a large margin?
Looks like 35% republican vs 33% democrat (versus 32% “independent” who might all vote republican for all I know).
But there’s a lot of republicans under 60 too so not getting the point of the random ageism.
Lemmy is big on ageism and throwing around the word boomer (incorrectly.)
Which is funny since there are a lot of older people on Lemmy, who most likely do not agree with the Republican agenda.
Except the Senate actually is boomers. Average age over 60
He’s really gone of the deep end. I mean, he’s always been a bit all over the place, esp wrt to Trump, but wow…
This really isn’t all that different from his old friend and former presidential candidate John McCain (dodged a bullet there), singing ‘Bomb Iran’ to the tune of the Beach Boys’ ‘Barbara Ann.’
I’m pretty sure that McCain was referencing this 1980 spoof:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vince_Vance_%26_the_Valiants
Yeah, the Wiki page says so too:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bomb_Iran
“Bomb Iran” (or “Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran”) is the name of several parodies of the Regents’ 1961 song “Barbara Ann”, originally written by Fred Fassert and popularized in a “party” cover version by the Beach Boys in 1965. The most popular of the parodies was recorded by Vince Vance & the Valiants in 1980. “Bomb Iran” gained a resurgence in notoriety in 2007 during John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign.
I’m not sure why that makes a difference.
Team Trump obviously has the goods on Lindsey. There is literally no other good explanation.
This really isn’t off the deep end for him. He’s said atrocious things for decades.
I think Graham is just a sleazy politician and knows it will give him more clout. Republicans who have taken a stand against Trump have mostly ended their careers; it’s been a surprising amount of courage from some individuals I didn’t think were capable.
Lindsey Graham doesn’t have brain worms, he is the brain worm.
https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/727604522156228608?lang=en
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Yep. And he was plenty eager to flop like the spineless worm he is when the time came.
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Nope. Japan was pretty much done with the war before the U.S. decided to use them as lab rats to their nuclear bomb experiment. They were itching to use said technology with no regard to innocent lives.
Not just lab rats for the experiment, but examples to show the Russians what could happen if they decided to try something in Europe.
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If the bomb had not been used, more people would have died.
At best, there is no way to be sure of that, and at worst, it is outright false:
"Indeed, as early as 1946 the U.S. Strategic Bombing Survey, in its report Japan’s Struggle to End the War, concluded that “certainly prior to 31 December 1945, and in all probability prior to 1 November 1945, Japan would have surrendered even if the atomic bombs had not been dropped, even if Russia had not entered…”
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1149003
https://ahf.nuclearmuseum.org/ahf/history/debate-over-japanese-surrender/
Regardless, killing people indiscriminately is and always will be wrong.
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Japan knew for a long time that they were going to lose and have not decided to surrender.
Tough shit. That doesn’t justify the killing of civilians.
Those 2 bombs definitely helped them with the decision.
This is a bad take given the evidence.
There’s also the fact that there were no warnings. I’ve read some potentially conflicting accounts, but the consensus seems to be that there were no warning pamphlets dropped on Hiroshima ahead of the nuclear blast. At best, there may have been leaflets dropped that included Hiroshima amongst a list of 35 Japanese cities that could be the target of a bombing. At that time, the level of destructive capabilities were unheard of, so even seeing those leaflets, the thoughts citizens may have had is that there would be some firebombing. Destruction and death could be expected, but nothing like the complete obliteration that actually happened.
The use of atomic weapons was a demonstration of US destructive capabilities. They were a warning built of indiscriminate evil that saught only to strike fear into the eyes of anyone who would dare attack the US.
The use of atomic weapons may have legitimately reduced the number of American casualties, but I’m with you. It’s impossible to know whether lives were saved beyond those of American soldiers. Many civilians perished on those days, and that is not something to be celebrated.
https://ahf.nuclearmuseum.org/ahf/key-documents/warning-leaflets/
But fighting soldiers versus fighting civilians is completely different, isn’t it? Isn’t that why we’re not really cool with the conflict in Gaza?
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https://www.osti.gov/opennet/manhattan-project-history/Events/1945/surrender.htm
Prior to the atomic attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, elements existed within the Japanese government that were trying to find a way to end the war. In June and July 1945, Japan attempted to enlist the help of the Soviet Union to serve as an intermediary in negotiations. No direct communication occurred with the United States about peace talks, but American leaders knew of these maneuvers because the United States for a long time had been intercepting and decoding many internal Japanese diplomatic communications. From these intercepts, the United States learned that some within the Japanese government advocated outright surrender. A few diplomats overseas cabled home to urge just that.
When his male lover is revealed, it will be a glorious day.
It’ll never happen. He’s doing exactly what they want gay people to do, being “decently” quiet about it.
what exactly will be glorious about that in your mind?
Hypocrisy.
when has that ever mattered to a republican?
There’s really no reason to ever report on or pay attention to things Lindsay Graham says. He has no real values or stands of his own. He is a spineless jellyfish that goes with the tide wherever it allows him to keep the most power.
I have never seen any evidence of him ever voicing and sticking to an actual personal belief.
On the other hand, we should keep outing these Nazis whenever we can so that the decent part of society doesn’t collectively forget who punched down and who punched up.
You go girl.
Couldn’t ask for a better positioning of titles.
