Wait, did they sell Bluesky to Musk?
Bro looks sad
Pretty much every failed social network out there failed because it had poor moderation tools, and this genius thinks the biggest mistake Bluesky has made is having any moderation tools at all.
Jack Dorsey looks like Rasputin
Lover of the Russian queen?
Even if somebody wanted to make an unmoderated ATProto app, I guess they could? Good luck with the app stores and regulators and users
ActivityPub provides the option to do just that. Anybody can spin up a server running Mastodon, Lemmy, Pleroma, etc… and moderate it however they like. There are a multitude of clients in app stores and an unmoderated server won’t affect that because they’re generic clients like web browsers. There are countries such a server could be hosted in with minimal regulations.
As for users… you’ll probably get some and they’ll probably be horrible. Most people will probably block your server.
You can also spin up your own Bluesky PDS (the account server) since federation is live now, or your own appview (basically the feed display server that has most of the smarts) and point your app to it, or set up your own relay (CDN like server) and point your appview and even point feed generators to it (3rd party custom feeds are supported in Bluesky)
So if you don’t like the decision made by anybody else you can just replace them. And yeah, just like on Mastodon nobody’s going to use unmoderated appviews, subscribe to scrappy feeds, or federate with a PDS hosting only shitty people.
It seems like there are some good ideas in there. Are there third parties out there running servers for each component that are open to the public yet?
Yes, there’s already some 3rd party reimplementations of both clients and PDS servers and feed generators (but haven’t heard of custom appviews yet). I don’t know anybody running an open PDS yet though, it’s mostly individuals running them
Biggest mistake he made was allow Twitter to be sold to an idiot
He looks like he’s ready to start working on a manifesto, just gotta let the hair grow out more to match the beard
Real John Mcafee vibes
“Social media and it’s consequences have been a disaster for the human race.”
Rah rah Rasputin
Lover of the Russian queen 🕺🕺
God damn it, now that banger will be in my head for hours
He went from looking like The Mandarin from Iron Man to wish.com late stage Tyrion.
Luke Methwalker?
Wasn’t this guy hired to be some kind of poster-boy CEO because he has a highschool masturbation related injury that causes one of his arms to constantly ache? Why is he giving everyone business advice now?
Because beard.
It’s length does indicate he’s a successful man of means…
he has a highschool masturbation related injury that causes one of his arms to constantly ache
Source? I’ve never heard of this (never cared much about him or Twitter) and tried to look it up, but I’m not seeing it anywhere.
I don’t understand how anybody can do something for a while, make millions or even billions off of doing that thing, and then they try to do other things to make more money and stay in the public eye. Just buy an island and fuck off for your remaining decades of retired decadence. What more could you want?
the kind of personality it takes to get to that level of wealth has no concept of enough wealth. money is how the untalented keep score.
I’ll have to dig it up tomorrow, but that was an illusion to a mountain climbing injury he sustained at some point earlier in life (to an arm) that left him in constant pain. He was able to function by mentally mastering the discomfort which he credited to meditation or something like that.
I believe it was an interview that aired on NPR at least 5 years ago.
I’m with you. When I saw The Saint as a kid it seemed like the perfect plan. Do crimes and retire when you hit 5 million ;-)
Seriously, I think it’s a widespread addiction. You see your nest-egg turn into millions and then billions… it’s got to be a rush.
When you have that much money, running a business is just a game to you. And it’s apparently a pretty entertaining game considering how popular is is with people who have “fuck you” money.
What a clown.
The fact that Bluesky has some form of content moderation and has occasionally banned users for things like using racial slurs in their usernames.
Actually, Jack Dorsey may be the problem. Good to see him shift focus to that “free speech”, pro-cryptocurrency platform Nostr. I see it like a containment zone for the worst people.
I think that it’s hard to find a level of content control that everyone is happy with. I’d favor fewer restrictions.
But that’s one thing that’s nice about the Threadiverse model – it’s federated. You can have one set of restrictions on one instance, and another on another.
Beehaw has pretty good conversation. I enjoy my discussions on their communities. It also has an extremely low bar for defederation – it’s defederated with even lemmy.world. I don’t like that, would not use that as my home instance.
My home instance is lemmy.today. The admin there is aiming for not defederating with anyone. I like that. But…not everyone wants that.
Point is, there can be multiple levels of content moderation on the Threadiverse, both at the instance and community level, and people who have different preferences can have the level of moderation that they want. Some people take a free-speech-absolutist position. Others want a safe space. Some people don’t want pornography on their forums. Some people only want certain types of pornography. Some people take issue with certain types of political radicalism. Some people want to associate with Threads users, and others do not.
I think that that’s maybe the best of all worlds.
Beehaw has pretty good conversation. I enjoy my discussions on their communities. It also has an extremely low bar for defederation – it’s defederated with even lemmy.world. I don’t like that, would not use that as my home instance.
Haha that’s an instance I haven’t heard about in a while… I personally blocked it because I want to talk to everyone on lemmy, not just half the population, and they’ve defederated from the largest instances.
And i guess that’s the good thing about the lemmyverse - you decide what level of control you want.
I personally blocked it because I want to talk to everyone on lemmy
Ummmm… lol
didn’t phrase that well, what I meant was when I have a conversation on lemmy I don’t want to respond to a beehaw post that less than half the lemmy population can see.
I personally blocked it because I want to talk to everyone on lemmy
Genius
didn’t phrase that well, what I meant was when I have a conversation on lemmy I don’t want to respond to a beehaw post that less than half the lemmy population can see.
I had fully understood what you wanted to mean, even though phrased badly. However the reason I quoted it is because of how contradictory is your thought process.
I mean, you are missing something;
not just half the population, and they’ve defederated from the largest instances.
I don’t know, sounds reasonable chief.
I don’t know, sounds reasonable chief.
They want to talk to everyone so they’re blocking someone/anyone? That does not sound logical. If that instance defederates, all that person has to do is just not use them as their home instance. They’re saying they want to talk to everyone, but they’re going out of their way to not do so (by blocking an instance, for whatever reason). Makes no sense to me.
didn’t phrase that well, what I meant was when I have a conversation on lemmy I don’t want to respond to a beehaw post that less than half the lemmy population can see.
It’s an incredibly ironic stance to take
I agree, I have accounts on different lemmy servers depending on what slice of fedi I want to expose myself to.
Bluesky is pretty fun and I’m glad he’s not there shitting it up anymore. I’ve only seen one nutsack on there so far.
Bluesky hasn’t been hyper-commoditized yet. I don’t see ads everywhere. I don’t have bots jamming ׺°”˜
”°º× 🎀 𝒫𝓊𝓈𝓈𝓎 𝐼𝓃 𝐵𝒾♡ 🎀 ׺°”˜”°º× into my feed. I’m not being spammed with “We noticed you haven’t joined our premium service yet, but for $8/mo we’ll stop showing you this message!” annoyance marketing.But I’ve got no doubt its coming. It just hasn’t hit that Twitter-level critical mass of users, such that enshittification turns a profit rather than curbing adoption.
Between threads mastadon and bluesky, which one do you think will be the biggest in the next year? Or are they gonna all keep living in the shadow of Twitter
Mastodon is more of a platform than a single service. Truth Social is, for instance, an insurance of Mastodon that hasn’t been updated since 2022.
Or are they gonna all keep living in the shadow of Twitter
Practically speaking, the future is probably Threads/Facebook/IG. They seems to have encircled social media and strangled it.
But that’s at a national/global scale. Outside of Lemmy style message boards, I don’t really fuck with social media anymore.
Given the inertia of moving social platforms and the spoiler effect of fragmentation, I assume ex-Twitter will remain the leading platform for a while still unless Musk manages to run it into the ground at record speed.
I don’t have any hard numbers on the rest, unfortunately. I personally favour Mastodon, and I believe some national governments have officially adopted it and are running their own instances, which might tip the scales a little if people see that as endorsement.
Bluesky overall seems to have the advantage in terms of marketing (probably because they have the advantage of money too). I have no idea about Threads, but being from the same company as Facebook, Instagram and Whatsapp may give them an advantage in terms of existing users for those services. I would expect they try to intermesh these services at one point or another.
It’s hard to predict, given that many people might just follow whatever their favourite personalities choose, and once enough users have gone there, other popular people may choose that platform too for its larger userbase, drawing more people in… It can snowball either way.
There’s also the ongoing debate about interfacing the other options with Mastodon. I’m not going to take a stance on that here, but it might be a solution to the split “some of my favourite people have gone here, the others there, but I want to keep up with both in a single app”. I think there would have to be a user-level option in Mastodon to block entire instances to allow people to choose not to get shown content from those services.
As an aside, I think that would be a good idea anyway, for Lemmy too. If I want to be able to browse All without seeing specific instances, I don’t want to have to look for an instance with that exact list of defeds.
There is a LOT of furries though.
Can confirm, my brother is a furry and on bluesky.
Oh no, not the Vrchat of social media
It just hasn’t hit that Twitter-level critical mass of users
Twitter used to be bigger than it is now and it also used to have less spam. So clearly size isn’t the problem.
The problem with twitter is Musk fired all the people who spent their day figuring out how to hide (or just delete) shitty content.
Twitter used to be bigger than it is now and it also used to have less spam. So clearly size isn’t the problem.
Twitter usage surged significantly prior to the Musk buyout. In 2010 they had 40M. They crested 400M users by 2020.
That’s the difference between growing your base and harvesting them.
Bluesky has in the neighborhood of 5-6M, by comparison.
Wait, people hate him now. I remember people loving him in the Twitter years. What happened?
He went mask off and everyone realized he’s a fascist
How is he a fascist?
He’s a billionaire with all his money
Being a billionaire. Doesn’t make you a fascist. Are Obama’s billionaire? Are they fascists?
Thank you for watering down words. If real fascist shows up. No one will believe you. Because people cried wolf one too many times.
The highest estimates I can find put Obama at < $150M.
You got me confused with someone who gives a fuck what you think.
Jack Dorsey is clinically insane. Stop listening to things he has to say.
He looks like if Peter Dinklage had a baby with John Krasinski
He looks like a child wearing a fake beard while standing on another child’s shoulders in a trenchcoat
I can see it
“I went to the bluesky board meeting today, I did a business!”
He looks like tech bro Rasputin.
