I was talking to one of my friends and he mentioned staying home on July 4, citing how there are a lot of really ugly things going on in the US.

After thinking about this myself, I’m starting to feel the same way. Instead of being proud of the country, I’m feeling like I’m just another wallet that companies and the government are trying to suck all the money out of.

The cost of living is going up, the housing market is a nightmare, I don’t feel very confident in our government at all, the job market is a nightmare…

I think I’ll be staying home this year too… anyone else?

  • Machinist@lemmy.world
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    I’m celebrating Happy Fireworks Day!

    I’ve got new neighbors that are probably about to hear, “Fire in the hole!” unironically for the first time. You can actually see the shockwave from my blackpowder signal cannon. Good chance the cops show up.

    I usually use the cannon to vaporize 10oz of kerosene for a nice mushroom cloud of fire, but I’ll have to see how it goes.

    I’m a pyro.

    Y’all wear safety glasses if having bottle rocket fights or roman candle duels.

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    Because of Patriotism they had it so easy to turn it into Nationalism and now turn it to fascism.

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    8 hours ago

    Feeling patriotic towards a country of traitors.

    US best values have been lost long time ago.

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    Why feel patriotic for a country that literally stole/claimed what wasn’t theirs to being with? Never felt such a thing for this so called “first world”.

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      Whose was it? At what point in history was ownership established and why was it not the previously displaced people’s instead? How long does it take to establish ownership, and what means are justified to do so? Who exactly is the United States anyway?

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        World history for millennia has shown that the conquerors write the rules. Ownership is established immediately upon victory. It matters not if you’re a yanomamo tribe living 1000 years ago or a modern military 1st world country. The victors write the rules.

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    Our country is under MAGA Nazis rule, and that is nothing to celebrate. Independence Day should be a Day of Resistance, until the MAGA Nazis lose their control.

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    Honestly nationalism for the US has always been kinda gross to me. We’ve never really had much to be proud of as a nation historically.

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    Lot of people I know are staying home, Generally on the 4th, for the last decade trumpers get black out drunk and end up killing people with their boats and gaint trucks.

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    18 hours ago

    Sounds like a great day for a false flag attack to solidify the masses against a perceived threat.

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    Canadian here and we celebrated the fuck out of our national holiday which just passed. We have a stronger feeling of solidarity than we’ve felt in a long time. Despite the threats of annexation and shifting tariffs, we are feeling more hopeful than we have in many years, possibly because we’re making new friends in the global sandbox and coming into our own power now instead of constantly kowtowing to the USA in all matters.

    Except a few folks in Alberta who would love to be part of the modern Nazi regime. Fuck them, tho.

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      Personally, I’m not feeling that same vibe. I think the solidarity against the US is a very good thing, but the sheer amount of ways Canada is just “America Light” is very depressing. Its to the point that our flag has been so sullied by absolutely shit tier movements in the last 5 years that I can’t stand to see it anymore.

      Every time I see a private flag pole, bumper stickers or anything kind of patriotic merch my knee jerk reaction is “I bet this dude’s a fuckwad.” I know that I’m painting with a huge and shitty brush but I just can’t even fight against it anymore. I know it’s wrong. I just don’t care, and that makes me sad.

      I live comfortably here, but given even a minutely convenient reason to emigrate I think I’d take it.

      Canada is a car infested, anti-human shit hole just like America. To paraphrase Steve Harris of Iron Maiden a bit “We oil the jaws of the war capitalist machine and feed it with our babies immigrants.”

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        I’ve felt like that for years, too. But Canadians boycotting en masses, then soundly rejecting mini-Trump has given me hope. Since then, our leader has been reaching out to other countries to form new relationships and deals. We just signed a rare earth minerals deal with Greenland, of all places.

        Yes, Canada has been hamstrung by US demands but the vice-grip they’ve had over us has deteriorated. This wouldn’t have happened if not every single other country in the world was going through the same thing. So it feels a bit like a rebirth to me, with the possibility of finally being able to come into our own as a nation.

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    I’ve never celebrated the 4th of July because I’ve been patriotic, I’ve done it because it’s fun. When I stopped believing in God I didn’t stop celebrating Christmas. In the same way Christmas is about gifts and seeing family, the 4th of July is about fireworks and seeing friends.

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    Not American. But I don’t even know when my country’s national day is. I know there’s one because they always do a military parade with the king and always something goes wrong, and we laugh about it. But I can even tell what day it is until I see it on the news.

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      You have a good king/gov if they arent bashing swallow patriotism into your skull in school… where are you from?

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        Spain.

        King is a moron, but happily he is just politically powerless.

        I mean, there is that kind of nationalism patriots here. We have our share of people talking about “bringing back the spanish empire” or “bring back Franco”. And they surely obsess about national day. I just don’t care.

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          Con todo el enriedo con separatistas qué hay en España hubiera esperado un mayor empuje nacionalista en las escuelas… bien por españa. Acá en Argentina es así, nacionalismo ciego y revisionismo en las escuelas, pero revisionismo selectivo. Un maldito asco.

          Traer de vuelta a Franco? Es joda? Pensé que era re contra taboo. Acá a veces se dice “con videla estábamos mejor” pero es más en chiste para decir que hay que mandar todo a la mierda… (espero)

          Igual, hagan lo que quieran, yo les tengo un amor ciego a ustedes…

          #ConLaCasaDeAustriaEstabamosMejor

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            Algo ha habido pero no tanto como pudieras imaginar. También yo siempre he hecho oidos sordos, así que igual hay más de lo que yo he visto.

            Pero lo de Franco, por desgracia sí, mucha gente dice la frase típica “con Franco estábamos mejor”. Algunos lo dicen enserio, otros para molestar. Pero es preocupante. Sobre todo cuando se escucha entre los más jóvenes.