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“the internet” is a necessity and requirement to function in society. You can’t be denied access to it anymore, it would be disproportionate.
Exactly, sure disconnect customers from the Internet if they use it for entertainment… but once they use it to earn the income that pays their bills, it becomes questionable… and once it is in practice required to be a citizen, at the local, national or supra national level then it becomes a totally different question, to which the answer is basically no, you can’t disconnect someone otherwise you remove their citizenship.
Pretty sure I have read somewhere that it is now also an official necessity in Germany
I think in Finland it is a basic utility like power and water. It is certainly priced like that.
I nominate we test with out with the Zuck and his networks.
Here i am again doing my duty https://mullvad.net/en/why-privacy-matters
Protip for anyone unfamiliar: Mullvad really is the gold standard for a private VPN. If you just want to pirate shit and not get angry letters from your ISP, Nord or PIA will accomplish that. But if you REALLY want privacy, Mullvad is it.
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I personally prefer Proton. They seem to get blocked less often.
(And yes I’m aware of the CEO controversy, he seems more like a Libertarian to me, not some right wing extremist)
That mask almost fell but he’ll make sure it doesn’t slip again
We all wear masks
I’m not a judge, but isn’t internet essentially a utility these days? Cutting someone off because of piracy seems like cutting off electricity or water because they did something illegal with it.
This would be the case had net neutrality not been killed off nearly a decade ago
Net neutrality is why your online jokes were censored under Biden
– John McRacist, Republican congressman, former CFO of Evil Inc., former lawyer of Vile Ltd., member of Christofascism Society and Roman Salutes to Jesus
Pragmatically, yes. Legally, no. Progressives have been fighting for years to get internet classified as a utility in the US, and regressives and (ironically) internet companies have been fighting against that effort at every turn in the name of profit.
And now look how well that’s turned out. Gee, if only some people had warned them that deregulation was a monkey’s paw…
Inb4 palantir cuts off your electric and water because you had 15% eye distraction during the mandatory 3hr nightly fox news viewing.
bottle water companies would love this, as would the oil giants
They could even be totally innocent, the mere accusation is enough, wtf?
USCIS can deport a non-citizen for accusations of drug use, including weed.
Let that sink in.
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That sink is a vampire, don’t let it in
Due process seems to just be a recommendation.
Recommendation???
No.
It’s a luxury you can try but only if you can afford it.
I’m pretty sure this supreme court would rule that people don’t have a right to electricity, or even water. They’ll probably be totally ok with people losing internet access as punishment for crossing media owners.
or even water
We never stopped the “lol treaties with Native American tribes don’t count” bullshit.
to be fair the treaty never specified anything about water, and the Navajo nations should have had better lawyers or better guerilla warfare tactics if they wanted more negotiating power.
Besides your point but this is the aspect about Gorsuch that I can’t seem to make internally consistent. He almost always rules in terms of native rights – even when, I think, it stretches his supposed originalist guiding principle – yet is more than happy to rule as a conservative on all other times and support “industry” and big business (even when it stretches his supposed originalist guiding principle).
I know that nothing necessitates a person to act logically and most act from emotion, more than anything, but most people, I find, have a relative reason they think they’re being logically consistent but I can’t seem to suss even that out, with regards to him.
I’m some places in the States they will cut off your electricity or water for sharing with a neighbor that has had theirs shut off. I have seen both happen personally, and not in some back water state. They both happened in upstate NY.
Cut off for sharing, or cut off for running illegal/unsafe/unlicensed wiring and plumbing connections?
For straight up running a hose or an extension cord so they’re not completely doa.
I’m not a United Statesian so I have no clue anymore how it works there, but other places have been making the case that the Internet is an essential service and that access to it is a basic right. So to leapfrog off your question, is that like a poor person stealing a loaf of bread being cut off from food because they didn’t food responsibly enough?
didn’t many European countries remove People’s hand for theft a few centuries ago?
Unfortunately the country I was born in, the USA, is also one that voted against the international resolution to define food as a human right. 😕
Not even piracy. Accusations thereof.
more importantly because of accused. Just accused.
accused piracy, too. Not proven. Not convicted. Just “pirate go bye bye.”
They will cut off electricity if you do something illegal with it…
I’m not doing piracy, I’m just trading a lot of data packets with a Proton Server in Switzerland, nothing to see here 😉
It’s like trading cards, gotta trade em all!
This is actually why I usually install a VPS in whichever country I’m physically in—my end devices always appear to be connecting to something innocent in-country (like a corporate VPN). That VPS then does the double-hop out of the country so that the VPS also seems pretty innocent too.
I don’t think it’s actually more secure though since the VPS is in my name and it’s technically decrypting everything. But I’m a bit less paranoid about that. (I’m not doing tons of illegal shit anyway.)
Look at it this way. Who would you rather risk pissing off, your ISP or a VSP Hosting company?
put the qbittorrent-wireguard container on the vps.
ha. all of my traffic is encrypted and routed through at least 3 pirate friendly countries and servers that don’t keep logs. good fucking luck inspecting those packets.
So all tech companies?
Just do what we do in Canada. Send them threatening letters. It scares 90% of parents into telling their kids to knock that shit off, but they’re toothless and can’t actually do anything, and the remaining 10% still pirate away. Everyone’s happy.
ISPs already do that here in the states. The court case is to decide whether they should shut off access.
I believe ISPs do not want to cut people off. All that does is push you to a competitor. They want to be able to hold you liable for damages
Always make sure that QBT uses your VPN’s network interface. I got some DMCA emails despite split-tunneling a VPN recently, and I realized it was bound to all interfaces by default - that’s no good.
Better to just configure a firewall properly so that no packets can go outside of the vpn tunnel.
How is that better? If you configure your firewall rules incorrectly, this protects you against that. This ensures you have no connection if your VPN isn’t on/isn’t working.
Then the AI companies that have openly used pirated stuff could also get disconnected lol. Of course business will be fine and individuals will get shafted who expects anything different nowadays.
Then pirates will just get smarter. No way for them to see who is watching all of these movies with their VPN and Debrid service.
According to the article this is the USA. How on brand.
Lol.
Do ISPs like making money?
Then they shouldn’t disconnect users who pirate.
I get notifications from my ISP all the time. They don’t do anything though because they like the money I give them.
I’ve been torrenting movies and software since 2000, no vpn, like I literally have torrented damn near everything I’ve watched for decades and have only gotten a notice once and it wasn’t even me. It was from a temporary roommate who had watched a movie on a pirate streaming site.
So that tells you how good and accurate their detection techniques are.
Their methods are fine, they literally just pirate the stuff themselves, see which IPs connect to them, then connect those to an ISP and notify them. The main reasons you wouldn’t get notices are getting lucky, not seeding much, not torrenting things that are being monitored, or having an ISP that doesn’t care much.
The single notice from the streaming site makes sense, pirate streaming sites are usually honeypots or heavily monitored.
My routine is always use piratebay, never use a pirate streaming site, no new or big studio releases, no porn, not seeding for long and choosing less active torrents. I can’t say much for how effective it is since I’ve never gotten hit so I can’t really experiment (I’ve had five or six ISPs in two different countries).
they literally just pirate the stuff themselves, see which IPs connect to them, then connect those to an ISP and notify them.
And I don’t even understand how this would hold up if it ever went to trial. How can an IP owner “pirate” their own IP? Even when they outsource it to services who do this they’re still giving permission for the IP to be distributed.
It’s like hiring someone to “steal” your own TV, putting it in a back alley and then accusing whoever takes it of being a thief.
It’s generally seen as okay on a similar level to undercover work. They do it for Investigation reasons, the torrent was already uploaded before they joined, their monitoring serves a legitimate law enforcement purpose, and they’re authorized by the copyright holder (themselves) to do it. They didn’t put the movie or whatever out there themselves.
After switching to torbrowser for all my questionable searches and downloads, I no longer get notices from my ISP for like 10 years now
let’s all fall on our sword to make sure Disney never loses a potential subscriber for Marvel Wars. Truly, we are defending the interests of the people here
