I was talking to a female friend and young Arnold Schwarzenegger came up on conversation. I pulled up a picture of him and spent a long time looking at it. Then said "I am trying to decide if he is attractive.

I know for me women who are fit and toned, attractive. Once a woman is muscular, attractive falls off a cliff. Probably because they start looking like a man.

The Arnold picture

  • MrsDoyle@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    No, not attractive. That’s a man who spends a LOT of time in the gym, looking at himself in the mirror. He eats and drinks weird stuff and possibly is on drugs that make him angry. Not my cup of tea.

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      That is a man who was the Govenor of California. Eats and drinks weird stuff? You mean healthy and lots of protein?

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        I think they meant stuff like pre workout mixes and post workout mixes. Hyper processed proteins, BCAAs, Caffiene, Beta Alanine, argenine, creatine, taurine, etc… followed by a chaser of a dozen or so pills like ZMA. Then of course the HGH, T, Sermorelin, Ipamorelin, & CJC-1295.

        Aside from the wealthiest, body builders generally destroy their hearts and bodies filling them up with dozens of cheap suspect supplements that don’t have solid lab testing. And they are always pushing new frontiers on shady pseudoscience to get a fresh edge with whatever side effects that has on longevity.

        Arnold got out before that part of the scene got super out of control. But even with him, you can see it in the way his forehead and gut shape have changed over time. The very clear signs he’s juiced, just probably under a lot more perfect control from medical professionals due to his wealth.

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    You think being muscular makes a woman look like a man? Sooo… muscles are for men only. And women should hide theirs?

    Weird take.

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      I understand what OP means. He (?) is saying that when a woman starts to have bulging muscles, a la the bodybuilder look, it isn’t attractive, because their body looks more masculine and less feminine.

      I feel the same way, I love the look of a toned, athletic woman, like the typical yoga or volleyball/tennis body, but when they start having visible definition and bulging muscles it don’t find it attractive.

      I’m a dude as well, as to OP’s question, I’ve also heard that some women prefer the dad bod to the Arnold look because muscles aren’t soft to lay on.

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        1 year ago

        It’s one thing to not be attracted to muscular women, but to say that it’s because muscular builds are “manly” is sexist as fuck.

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      I’m not agreeing with him at all but that’s a strange jump to take.

      I’d say that secondary sexual characteristics in women tend to involve body fat. Being in extremely good shape does affect that a little bit - breasts, hips, face, ass, - and some would see that as looking more masculine where I’d say they’re just extremely fit.

      Somehow roundness and softness is ‘feminine.’

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      The most muscular women on earth had to take steroids to get there. The most muscular people on earth who don’t take steroids are men (not saying no men take them; don’t put words in people’s mouths). So, I could see that line of thinking, but it’s a needlessly prescriptive way of phrasing it.

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        I’d love to see how you can’t make this relevant to the idea that women shouldn’t have large muscles.

        Please go on…

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      First of WTF?

      Second believe it or not it’s actually okay to not find certain physical or mental attributes attractive. Attractiveness of others differs for everyone. It isn’t okay to then be mean or disrespectful to those you are not attracted to.

      Weirdly enough if you read my post I didn’t say muscular women were bad, I never said they should not be muscular and I definitely did not say women should hide their muscles.

      So please just fuck off, thank you

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        If you read my comments, you’d see that I said everyone is free to be attracted to whatever and whoever they wish, but saying that women look like men when they have muscles is incredibly sexist.

        Maybe phrase things differently if you want to be understood better.

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          “I don’t like oranges in desserts”

          That’s perfectly valid and nothing wrong with that ✨✨✨

          “It’s weird when oranges are used in sweet things because they nory are sour”

          OMG what so oranges can’t be sweet now they should hide their sweetness? 😡 That’s incredibly tasteless wow. You should N E V E R explain why your preference means away from something you [descriptor]ist!

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            “I don’t like oranges in deserts”

            That’s perfectly valid and nothing wrong with that.

            “I think oranges in deserts isn’t feminine”

            Sexist bullshit.

            FTFY.

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          Looking back on your comment history you seem to have a lot of down vote. I take it you like to say mean things. I am sorry you feel that way. It must be miserable.

          Here is every comment you made on your post feel free to show me where you said “…everyone is free to be attracted to whatever and whoever they wish,…”

          You think being muscular makes a woman look like a man? Sooo… muscles are for men only. And women should hide theirs?

          Weird take.

          It’s one thing to not be attracted to muscular women, but to say that it’s because muscular builds are “manly” is sexist as fuck.

          I’d love to see how you can’t make this relevant to the idea that women shouldn’t have large muscles.

          Please go on…

          Sometimes gifts just wrap themselves.

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    Go look up thirst trap woodchopping videos or channels of people really good at whip cracking. The type of natty, muscular physique these people have is great.

    Where I’m personally turned off is when people start to use steroids to go beyond how bodies look when they’re natty jacked because of an active hobby or job (talking about the look—it’s ok to get muscles at the gym instead.).

    Fwiw, I’m strictly talking about muscles here, regardless of fat. If built, construction homies have a lean look or if they are a teddy bear, it’s all cool with me.

    TLDR; Steroids can make muscles unattractive.

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    Even though we generalize that we’re attracted to categories like men and women I think most people are only attracted to a handful of singular people rather than a whole gender (or a more muscled or less muscled subset of one).

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    Do not like the Arnold level picture, but I like strong people. From my understanding of muscular & strong people, strength muscles =/= show off muscles, and you can be strong without spending all day at the gym.

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    Not attractive at all to me. I don’t mind if a guy is toned, but muscular is really unattractive to me. The thing with attraction is that it’s individual, and I know some women who would love this look, I tend to like geeky guys, but I have friends who like big guys, bald guys, short guys, skinny guys, attraction is just super individual.

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    Personally, I do not find men (or women) that are as built as that photo of Arnold attractive. I do like nicely-toned arms though, I am definitely an “arms” chick, as in, I find muscular arms in particular attractive. But there’s definitely a point where if the muscles are too big, it starts to be less appealing.