Former Gov. Andrew Cuomo conceded New York City’s Democratic mayoral primary to Zohran Mamdani as the 33-year old member of the state Assembly had a significant lead in the race Tuesday night.
Cuomo’s concession came as the race’s outcome will be decided by a ranked choice count after neither Democrat got a clear majority in the vote.
Mamdani, a 33-year-old democratic socialist member of the state Assembly, started to pull ahead with more than an estimated 80% of ballots counted.
Now you and your brother can go fuck a meatball. Fucking clowns.
Ya love to see it
Liberals: No one can even run in the primary against our geriatric dear leader since it could cause a rift in the party
Also liberals: This anti semite is too dangerous, we must save the voters from there decision with our favorite sex criminal.
What does vote splitting have to do with a Democratic primary?
The gist is what the other person said, but to expand on the the point I wanted to make: Whenever you (or, well, I) suggest that the left should antagonize the DNC, liberals come out of the woodwork saying that splitting the anti-conservative vote will only lead to conservatives winning and that instead leftists should vote in primaries. The idea is that if the leftist candidate wins the liberals will respect party norms and support the winner of the primary, providing a safer path to progress. Here we have the liberal favorite completely shitting on party norms and running as an independent even though he lost the primary to a leftist, so the whole proposition of a united front against the right through primaries falls apart. This would fatally discredit the idea that primaries are a viable substitute for a leftist third party if liberals cared about facts.
Yeah except you using “liberals” like this makes zero sense.
There are plenty of people who think leftists should back the “centrist/liberal” candidate in the general if they win the primary. There are also plenty of people who think Cuomo should fuck all the way off in the exact same method now that the leftist candidate has won. I’m sure there are some centrist voters who obviously buck that trend (same as some leftists when their primary person doesn’t win) but I feel like the solid majority would rather win and move things left regardless of pace than give it to Republicans (or Adams, which is close enough.)
Just because Cuomo is a terrible person doesn’t mean all “liberals” support him in running.
Here’s to hoping Zohran destroys Adams and if he is shithead enough to run, Cuomo too.
It’s funny- your guy won and you’re still mad. Take some time to celebrate. JFC. This is a GOOD thing man.
I’m using this primary to illustrate a wider point about strategy here; I can do that and be happy that Mamdani won.
The liberal candidate who lost (Cuomo) has announced he is going to run in the general as an independent (which is in OP’s link), instead of supporting the nominee. So Cuomo primary voters may split from the Democratic nominee in the general for Cuomo.
I wonder if the party will fund the candidate its voters wanted or if they will fund cuomo.
The “party” will, they’ll just get an immediate drop in donations from the rich and a new organization not obligated to the party will spring up flush with cash. Sort of like how the establishment abandoned the Nevada DNC after progressives won the election to take it over.
I’m honestly surprised Mamdani is still alive in the US, given his name.
It’s like hearing about a mayor in a town in Nazi Germany named Abram Mankowitz.
NYC is easily the most diverse and integrated major city in the country. That kind of rhetoric doesn’t apply to the majority of NYC.
Someone is going to run as an independent in the general election. I really hope they aren’t able to rat fuck this win.
Honestly, Cuomo and Adams have the same target demographic: assholes. Everyone else backs Zohran
I hope I am wrong. But I have a fear that the knives are going to come out more so than they have already.
And I am proven correct.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/26/politics/cuomo-mamdani-mayor-november-ballot
I sure hope assholes don’t have a large voter turnout in [checks notes] New York City!??
Bu- bu- but is he gonna visit Israel? /s
context
In a debate they asked where candidates would visit. Once one of them said they’d visit Israel, a lot of others said they would too. Mamdani basically said he’d stay in NYC because he’d be the mayor and it’s important to focus on his constituents. So then the moderators are like “Just to clarify, you wouldn’t visit Israel?” And he’s like I wanna focus on New Yorkers then they’re like “Do you support Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state?” 🙄 Absolutely insane. The man just answers “where would you visit” by saying he wouldn’t travel so he can focus on constituents and it turns into a purity test about his views on Israel’s existence? Just shameful. Like imagine if someone is like “I’ll have a salad” and then the waiter asks “Do you support cattle farmer’s right to earn a living?”
There are a lot of Jewish people in NYC, though, as Jesse Jackson once famously (and crudely) noted…
And?
Poor people be voting for the conservative while higher income people be voting for the socialist. This is so ironic…
It’s makes you want to cry or throw a big shiny round bomb in someone’s gilded carriage. One of those two.
Looks like the lower income is the Bronx and a bit of Brooklyn. Higher income is Manhattan and the Brooklyn/queens riverfront. The middle income map is more like what I’d expect to see overall based on the neighborhoods. More Cuomo for Staten Island/False New Jersey as well as east Brooklyn/Queens/Don’t call it Long Island (even though they act like Nassau county is out in the country). There’s a bunch of conservative, racist pricks that insist on NYC being the greatest (so they’re definitely part of it) but off in homeowning urban areas pissed that they’re making suburb money but paying urban prices. All while refusing to enjoy the fun parts of the city because they don’t like the people there.
It depends where the cut off is. But there’s a lot of educated people that fall into the higher income category that all too aware what rampant poverty and inequality can do to cause instability. His policies might not benefit them the most but it would still benefit them in some way.
Some good news for the week.
Democrats need to be unapologetic in their stances to critics on both sides.
How long util he gets couped by the CIA?
They’re already pre-announcing the Reichstag Fire they’re about to stage.
(I’m assuming it will be executed with the full and enthusiastic cooperation of the nypd)
CIA doesn’t even need to get involved. Just a “terrorist” accusation and arrest them.
LET’S FUCKING GO!
Thank fuck
Hopefully he wins the general
Adams doesn’t stand a chance
Wtf happened to Adams? Sure, he was under criminal corruption indictments, then cozied up to Trump and got “pardoned” (charges dismissed). But then he was supposed to be on the Democratic primary ballot, his picture was even in the official voter guide from a month ago, but on election day his name wasn’t even in the list? Now he’s apparently running as independent incumbent instead? What a booger!
EDIT: Both Cuomo and Adams are intending to run as independent in the general? WhyTF do we even have primaries then! If they are not going to play by their own rules of their special little club, let’s just extend Ranked Choice Voting to cover the general and scrap the primaries altogether!
centrists are still the wing of puma pac.
And they had the temerity to say “no matter who” for three fucking election cycles.
This is the dream of ranked choice. The more candidates the better.
Don’t understand why it wasn’t done this way in the first place. RCV was approved as a New York City Charter amendment by a voter initiative in 2019, but only applies to primary city elections, not general. You’d think procedurally it would be easier to justify altering the general election process that the Constitution actually applies to, rather than what is technically internal business of independent private organizations (the Democratic and the Republican parties).
I don’t realize it wouldn’t be in the main election. If so, then Cuomo better not run… Maybe they do it like this as a stepping stone. Get everybody used to the process in the primaries before rolling it out to the main.
WhyTF do we even have primaries then!
So progressives don’t get any ideas. As I said elsewhere in the thread: I better not hear another liberal saying we can’t split the vote again.
I assume you mean in reference to the general last year? I raged against the way the left brought disaster upon the Palestinians despite their best intentions. This outcome, however, is exactly what I argued the left should be doing: fight FOR the left in primaries, vote AGAINST fascists in the general. You are damn close to sham elections as it is, giving the facisits any opportunity to shut down democracy is self defeating.
I assume you mean in reference to the general last year?
That’s the most recent example, yes, but you get this spiel whenever you suggest going against the party in anything beyond local elections.
I raged against the way the left brought disaster upon the Palestinians despite their best intentions.
Where are you getting the idea that it was the left that let Trump win? Democrat non-voters were for the most part moderates.
fight FOR the left in primaries, vote AGAINST fascists in the general.
The whole point of this mantra is to not split the anti-fascist vote. And what are the Democrats doing now after not getting their way? Ignore the primary and split the anti-fascist vote. The whole point of not splitting the vote is defeated when the liberals then decide to split the vote. I’m also very much not convinced that a vote for Democrats is a vote against fascism given that they just voted not to impeach Trump.
Where are you getting the idea that it was the left that let Trump win? Democrat non-voters were for the most part moderates.
no centrist has ever cared. they don’t want to move to the left under any circumstances, so they blame the left every time their unpopular policies, refusal to represent anyone but themselves, cowardice, and complicity lose them elections.
fight FOR the left in primaries, vote AGAINST fascists in the general
That’s how it should have worked, except that in the 2024 Democratic Presidential primary, when Biden was the only name on the ballot, we were STILL told to vote for him and only him or we’d be supporting Trump. In the primary! Voters in Michigan tried to campaign for “uncommitted” option in protest of the ongoing genocide in Gaza and how the administration was ignoring it, and they were crucified by establishment Democrats. Even Bernie Sanders distanced himself from the protest vote, saying to vote Biden no matter what. In the primaries!
The way Democrats run primaries is shameful, no denying it. But the only way to change the dems is to get actively involved, push for RCV, start grass roots, and, yes, vote for the good guy in the primary.
and, yes, vote for the good guy in the primary.
when the party deigns to have them.
As I said elsewhere in the thread: I better not hear another liberal saying we can’t split the vote again.
Do you actually understand the difference between FPTP and ranked choice?
Do you actually understand the voting process you’re commenting on?
The NYC general is FPTP, and Cuomo is running anyway despite having lost the primary. Neither me nor the other person are criticizing anyone for running in the primary.
They’re talking about the general election, which is FPTP, and losing primary moderates refusing the result and trying again in the general.
WhyTF do we even have primaries then! If they are not going to play by their own rules of their special little club, let’s just extend Ranked Choice Voting to cover the general and scrap the primaries altogether!
Because the US doesn’t really have a true democracy. It’s always going to be weighted against the actual interests of the people. The more success candidates the Zohran have, the more the established politicians will stack the deck against them. The good thing is that the more the game is rigged the more obvious it all becomes.
The article says Adams is running as an independent, and that Cuomo has the option and is looking into it! It’s not decided.
He’s probably trying to save face; he’s on record in May saying he’s running no matter the result of the primary.
Good. The Democratic machine didn’t want this. It happened anyways. Maybe they will pull head from ass. (Doubtful)
The people you are talking about about will never remove their cranial bowel obstructions, but their twisted forms can be removed from the Democratic party by voters.
The Democratic Machine whatever the fuck you think it is, is a magical machine of the gaps. When voters don’t show up, The Machine does whatever it wants. When voters vote, The Machine has to listen.
The voters voted DESPITE the democratic party
The democratic party didn’t canvas those neighborhoods, the democratic party didn’t knock over a million doors, the democratic party didn’t win this election
DEMOCRATIC SOCALISTS OF AMERICA WON THIS ELECTION
And you should GET FUCKING USED TO IT. Your machine is broken and worthless, you just witnessed an actual campaign for the people, by the people, and look at the results. Fuck the DNC.
You just described what coalition politics actually is. When your candidate can gather support, or when a group of people can gather together and push a candidate, that group of people can do political activism, and elect their candidate. Do it enough time, and you get yourself a political force that can then communicate with other political forces to achieve their goals. The way US democracy operates, there can be only two viable coalitions, but the rest remains.
Americans have this weird perverted view of the political process, they believe some kind of higher force should produce them a magical person that is favoured by all, and then they can benevolently think about maybe supporting them or not, and they got irrationally angry when political groups they aren’t parts of, don’t deliver them this magical person.
Unfortunately, politics doesn’t work like that.Thats how everyone who has been arguing with me about zohran kept acting when I would tell them that im organizing for a real change in the world. Like he should just be the candidate ordained by the party if he was actually good for people.
Its nonsense, you have to organize and you have to have an actual political goal to strive towards. You go out and knock doors and have conversations and open people’s minds about what politics should be.
Zohrans biggest opposition was peoples disillusionment with the two party system. They got out and voted because they rightfully saw zohran as an actual third choice, and liberals did whatever they could to convince us otherwise. They’re still doing it. Trying to say that this doesn’t change anything and nobody should expect this to have ripple effects. Tell them to shut up and put in the work. None of them are going to volunteer for someone like Cuomo, so they’re just going to sit online and tell leftists that we cant win because organizing massive popular movements won’t win elections outside NYC. It’s laughable.
People are sick and tired of being told to stay home and do nothing but vote. They’re demanding change. They’re willing to go out and actually do something to make it happen. Weeks ago our streets were filled with people furious at the state of our country. Americans are ready to organize for a better system. Anyone who is opposed to building that movement might as well be a trump voting fascist like the rest of them. We will win, and we will keep winning.
You have a lot riding on a single election in one of the most democratic parts of the country. While I agree that Democratic Socialists did make a push here that could well set the tone of politics for the next 20 years on the left side of America, I’d hesitate to say it with certainty, given how crass American voters can be. Let’s let ZM actually get elected mayor, and let him prove he can get a DS platform passed in NYC before we crown him America’s saviour.
I agree with this perspective. In Colombia, 3 years ago, we elected the Most leftist president in our history (regretfully, I voted for him in second round.
He turned to be a completely chaos. He made our country to retrocede 20 years. We experience more violence that many years ago. He helped our government to go broke. He didn’t deliver the “Change”, but made things worst
You should be as demanding as you are with republicans
How uncharitable do you want me to be in my response to this? If you agree with my point about DSA winning this election in spite of the democratic party’s best efforts then everything else in your comment can be deleted
I hear Hasan Piker (not a really a “fan” btw, just like to watch clips of people blabbing about politics) say that there are some people that were like “Bernie seems like a great guy, I hope he wins”, then prinary day come in their state and they’re like “What’s a primary?” 🤦♂️
You don’t mess with the Zohran.
Guessing there will be a new appointment announced soon
