Former Gov. Andrew Cuomo conceded New York City’s Democratic mayoral primary to Zohran Mamdani as the 33-year old member of the state Assembly had a significant lead in the race Tuesday night.

Cuomo’s concession came as the race’s outcome will be decided by a ranked choice count after neither Democrat got a clear majority in the vote.

Mamdani, a 33-year-old democratic socialist member of the state Assembly, started to pull ahead with more than an estimated 80% of ballots counted.

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      They’re already pre-announcing the Reichstag Fire they’re about to stage.

      (I’m assuming it will be executed with the full and enthusiastic cooperation of the nypd)

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      It depends where the cut off is. But there’s a lot of educated people that fall into the higher income category that all too aware what rampant poverty and inequality can do to cause instability. His policies might not benefit them the most but it would still benefit them in some way.

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      It’s makes you want to cry or throw a big shiny round bomb in someone’s gilded carriage. One of those two.

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      Looks like the lower income is the Bronx and a bit of Brooklyn. Higher income is Manhattan and the Brooklyn/queens riverfront. The middle income map is more like what I’d expect to see overall based on the neighborhoods. More Cuomo for Staten Island/False New Jersey as well as east Brooklyn/Queens/Don’t call it Long Island (even though they act like Nassau county is out in the country). There’s a bunch of conservative, racist pricks that insist on NYC being the greatest (so they’re definitely part of it) but off in homeowning urban areas pissed that they’re making suburb money but paying urban prices. All while refusing to enjoy the fun parts of the city because they don’t like the people there.

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    Bu- bu- but is he gonna visit Israel? /s

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    In a debate they asked where candidates would visit. Once one of them said they’d visit Israel, a lot of others said they would too. Mamdani basically said he’d stay in NYC because he’d be the mayor and it’s important to focus on his constituents. So then the moderators are like “Just to clarify, you wouldn’t visit Israel?” And he’s like I wanna focus on New Yorkers then they’re like “Do you support Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state?” 🙄 Absolutely insane. The man just answers “where would you visit” by saying he wouldn’t travel so he can focus on constituents and it turns into a purity test about his views on Israel’s existence? Just shameful. Like imagine if someone is like “I’ll have a salad” and then the waiter asks “Do you support cattle farmer’s right to earn a living?”

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    I’m honestly surprised Mamdani is still alive in the US, given his name.

    It’s like hearing about a mayor in a town in Nazi Germany named Abram Mankowitz.

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      NYC is easily the most diverse and integrated major city in the country. That kind of rhetoric doesn’t apply to the majority of NYC.

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      When do you think they’ll realize their name is poisonous? Or would that require more introspection than a Clinton is even capable of?

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        I’m suspicious that sociopaths are a parasitic subspecies. Like there are these alien creatures that look entirely human walking around among us. They look like us, talk like us, but think that the general human species is inferior to their own.

        What if they could identify other sociopaths, and were working in concert. Hmm, this is ridiculous.

        Anyway, yeah. I don’t think Clinton is capable of that level of introspection.

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          I’m suspicious that sociopaths are a parasitic subspecies.

          That’s an interesting perspective. I wouldn’t go so far as to dehumanise them, though. I think they’re just another type of human — that’s particularly well adapted at fucking shit up in such a way that they, and potentially their ingroup, come out on top.

          It’s a highly unfortunate type of person of course and a very likely cause for the premature death of our biosphere if it comes to that.

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            Evolution - at a species level or a societal level - has no “guiding hand”. It throws shit at a wall to see what sticks, and the best-adapted variants tend to propagate.

            Selfish behavior is very powerful in a large and strong society where most people are producing more value than they’re consuming. There’s so much wealth to be found that if you don’t care about the enemies you make, you can just jump from victim to victim as you amass power faster tab the people you leave behind. The problem is, this drives the society towards no longer being one of such surplus.

            In a smaller society where people are largely just surviving, selfish behavior will cripple your own ability to survive. If everybody has only a modest surplus, they only want to share it with people they can trust to return the favor when they’re the one in need. If you make enemies with everyone in a small community, you’re going to have a hard time finding community support.

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    If this election was held in 2023, you have to wonder if the outcome would have been wildly different.

    For once, an encouraging sign for sanity and common sense.

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        I called the 2024 election when Biden won in 2020. He was a shitty corporate centrist candidate who was never going to address our deep structural inequality, and so frustrated uneducated people voted for change in 2024. Obama won 2008 because people wanted “Change”. Trump won 2016 to drain the swamp. We’re all so sick of this crony corporate bullshit.

        Socialists or we lose. It should’ve been obvious all along that the “centrists” and “Libertarians” are just embarrassed Republicans. America has been sick and tired of corporations overtly ruling for decades and moderates don’t want to own that.

        Voters weren’t scared of a dictatorship on day one by a guy quoting Hitler. And at this point, they aren’t scared of socialism, not anymore. The only way we win elections is by supporting candidates who are actually good. Even if a moderate wins this election, they’ll lose us the next election and the good half will be undone. We can only discount the value of the next election iff our candidate will address our broken elections.

        TL;DR: Socialists or we lose.

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          The crazy thing is that nothing will change unless someone takes control to stop the corporate-controlled stalemate that runs our society. The far right is awful, and the fact that they are the only ones capable of getting it done is probably the most terrifying notion this country has experienced in my lifetime. It’s just going to be splitting all the wealth with another group of nerdy billionaire assholes and making a worse gov. I just want to wake up and realize it’s a nightmare.

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            explodicle didn’t mention Trump running on draining the swamp because they believed he would do that or because they support Trump in any way. The point (very clearly) is that even people as uneducated, uninformed, and oblivious as MAGAts can tell that there is something very wrong about how America was being ran, and even they wanted something to change. The fact that Trump lied about draining the swamp and the fact that his intentions was to bring in a sewer to replace it is irrelevant. The fact that they were naive to believe him is irrelevant.

            The point is that most of us want actual change, not centrist corporate stooges like Biden and Harris. Whether the people put their faith in the wrong ones to change things in the past is beside the point.

            And no, the fact that people showed up in record numbers to vote for Biden in 2020 does not prove this trend is incorrect. At that point Biden was a significant change from Trump in the eyes of many people. He deceived people that he was going to be significantly different in the same way Trump did.

            If you are still confused try reading the TL:DR again, “Socialists or we lose.” They were 1000% not expecting Trump to actually drain the swamp.

            Judging by our last conversation where you blamed the people who voted for Harris for Trump getting elected, this nuance is going to fly right over your head. The fact that you took a comment calling for people to vote for socialist candidates as someone supporting Trump pretty clearly shows you aren’t the sharpest potato in the sack.

            I also know you are a pro-capitalist, anti-socialist, corporate boot-licker, so it’s no surprise people calling for socialist candidates to be elected is against your ideals and you would like to muddy the waters as much as you can, but I think it’s clear to everyone you aren’t arguing in good faith.

            You proving me right in 3…2…1…

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    Good. The Democratic machine didn’t want this. It happened anyways. Maybe they will pull head from ass. (Doubtful)

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      The Democratic Machine whatever the fuck you think it is, is a magical machine of the gaps. When voters don’t show up, The Machine does whatever it wants. When voters vote, The Machine has to listen.

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        I hear Hasan Piker (not a really a “fan” btw, just like to watch clips of people blabbing about politics) say that there are some people that were like “Bernie seems like a great guy, I hope he wins”, then prinary day come in their state and they’re like “What’s a primary?” 🤦‍♂️

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        The voters voted DESPITE the democratic party

        The democratic party didn’t canvas those neighborhoods, the democratic party didn’t knock over a million doors, the democratic party didn’t win this election

        DEMOCRATIC SOCALISTS OF AMERICA WON THIS ELECTION

        And you should GET FUCKING USED TO IT. Your machine is broken and worthless, you just witnessed an actual campaign for the people, by the people, and look at the results. Fuck the DNC.

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          You just described what coalition politics actually is. When your candidate can gather support, or when a group of people can gather together and push a candidate, that group of people can do political activism, and elect their candidate. Do it enough time, and you get yourself a political force that can then communicate with other political forces to achieve their goals. The way US democracy operates, there can be only two viable coalitions, but the rest remains.
          Americans have this weird perverted view of the political process, they believe some kind of higher force should produce them a magical person that is favoured by all, and then they can benevolently think about maybe supporting them or not, and they got irrationally angry when political groups they aren’t parts of, don’t deliver them this magical person.
          Unfortunately, politics doesn’t work like that.

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            Thats how everyone who has been arguing with me about zohran kept acting when I would tell them that im organizing for a real change in the world. Like he should just be the candidate ordained by the party if he was actually good for people.

            Its nonsense, you have to organize and you have to have an actual political goal to strive towards. You go out and knock doors and have conversations and open people’s minds about what politics should be.

            Zohrans biggest opposition was peoples disillusionment with the two party system. They got out and voted because they rightfully saw zohran as an actual third choice, and liberals did whatever they could to convince us otherwise. They’re still doing it. Trying to say that this doesn’t change anything and nobody should expect this to have ripple effects. Tell them to shut up and put in the work. None of them are going to volunteer for someone like Cuomo, so they’re just going to sit online and tell leftists that we cant win because organizing massive popular movements won’t win elections outside NYC. It’s laughable.

            People are sick and tired of being told to stay home and do nothing but vote. They’re demanding change. They’re willing to go out and actually do something to make it happen. Weeks ago our streets were filled with people furious at the state of our country. Americans are ready to organize for a better system. Anyone who is opposed to building that movement might as well be a trump voting fascist like the rest of them. We will win, and we will keep winning.

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          You have a lot riding on a single election in one of the most democratic parts of the country. While I agree that Democratic Socialists did make a push here that could well set the tone of politics for the next 20 years on the left side of America, I’d hesitate to say it with certainty, given how crass American voters can be. Let’s let ZM actually get elected mayor, and let him prove he can get a DS platform passed in NYC before we crown him America’s saviour.

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            How uncharitable do you want me to be in my response to this? If you agree with my point about DSA winning this election in spite of the democratic party’s best efforts then everything else in your comment can be deleted

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            I agree with this perspective. In Colombia, 3 years ago, we elected the Most leftist president in our history (regretfully, I voted for him in second round.

            He turned to be a completely chaos. He made our country to retrocede 20 years. We experience more violence that many years ago. He helped our government to go broke. He didn’t deliver the “Change”, but made things worst

            You should be as demanding as you are with republicans

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      The people you are talking about about will never remove their cranial bowel obstructions, but their twisted forms can be removed from the Democratic party by voters.

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      It’s not out of the realm of possibility, Mamdani was born in Uganda and was naturalized in 2018. If Trump really wants to test his ability to do whatever the fuck he wants, he can try to denaturalize Mamdani for some bullshit reason (even though thats not really a thing) and order him to be sent to CECOT.

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          There is nothing any of us can come up with that Stephen Miller hasn’t dreamed up already.

          (And I mean that literally, his sleep is filled with nocturnal emissions generated by imagining he is forcefully deporting people with too much melanin).

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            This is exactly what I was going to say. Never underestimate how low a Nazi is willing to go, or how creative he can be in getting there.

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        Not what I was thinking. Four thugs bust into his house at 3am, stuff him in a van, and he is never seen again.

        But your way is more likely.

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          No, it will end up your way, but to keep the brown natural-born citizens who voted for him from realizing he will go after them next, he at least needs to pretend to denaturalize him, even if that’s not a thing he can do.

          Expect a social media post something like “I, Donakd Trmup, hereby declare that your citizenship application was deficient, and you’re gone!”

          (Haha, it took effort to write that, my spell check was having fits. And maybe it needs to be in ALL CAPS to be more authentic)

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            but to keep the brown natural-born citizens who voted for him from realizing

            Um, what? He has better support from wealthy whites than from racial minorities.

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              Yes, but the white people who voted for him aren’t going to care about him deporting people for being brown. The brown people who voted for him might, if he doesn’t give at least the barest of excuse

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              Plenty of brown natural-born citizens voted for Trump, under the theory that they will be considered one of the “good ones”…

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                That group is infuriating. The worst are the ones that drag Democratic primaries to the right, then vote Republican anyways.

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          You know? Mebbe 60/40?

          Maybe he gets shot in his home like they did Hortman. Maybe just quietly goes to gitmo?

          On one hand you have spectacle, on the other hand you have fear. They’re pretty fond of both.