• SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    Incognito was never about privacy. It’s about hiding your seach history from your parents or partner or whatever

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    26 days ago

    I don’t believe for a second that they are actually going to delete any data they stole from users.

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      26 days ago

      Of course they will! First you make a copy, then you delete the copy. Contractual terms satisfied.

    • monogram@feddit.nl
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      25 days ago

      The raw data might be purged but no one talks about the ML modal that google trained with that data.

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      25 days ago

      To be fair nothing was stolen, the lawyers even admitted as much.

      This is a user error problem caused by the moron in a hurry problem.

      The warning on incognito mode both before and after the change was very explicit that it was local only. It was intended for people sharing a computer, not for privacy to anything you searched, external websites, etc

      Below the warning even had examples over exactly what was and was not saved with it explicitly saying that external websites would be able to track and save your data including Google.

      The change was to add that warning list to the initial warning itself because Google had assumed people would read the entire page. They did not.

      Which means that those morons in a hurry who only skimmed misunderstood what incognito mode was for. Did not read the use case, the warning, the TOs, the manual, or any other information provided both explicitly or implicitly.

      Hell even parted the argument of the lawyers was that this is a user issue and that Google had a responsibility to prevent people who were ignorant or in a hurry from misunderstanding. And while they made a good faith effort, it could have been better. Google being the large company is taking the fall for this more than anything but it is at the end of the day a user issue.

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      26 days ago

      Doesn’t it specifically say on a new incognito tab that this doesn’t protect against sites or service providers from gathering information…and only stops you from storing local information (history, cookies, etc)? Do people actually think that incognito is adding privacy protection?

      • Kairos@lemmy.today
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        26 days ago

        That was actually a result of this issue, where Google placed misleading statements in incognito and then proceeded to actively go around them.

  • Shardikprime@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    The Google Incognito tab in any browser clarifies that while it prevents your browsing history from being saved on your device, it does not make your browsing completely private.

    Websites you visit, your employer (if on a work network), and your internet service provider (ISP) can still track your online activity.

    Hell it even has a link that leads directly to the privacy policy

    https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/9845881?hl=en-GB

    The only thing that shocks me is that no one ever reads it

  • Landless2029@lemmy.world
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    26 days ago

    Incognito was literally only good for opening a second session without you logged in. It did zero for privacy. Even their disclaimer said so.

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    26 days ago

    Am I the only one who only used incognito by accident when intending to select “open in new tab” from the context menu?

    • Damage@slrpnk.net
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      26 days ago

      I use it to access the same site with different logins at the same time, or to let someone else log in to a service temporarily using my device

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        25 days ago

        If this is something you do often, you might consider Firefox with the multi-account containers extension: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers

        It allows unique/isolated profiles on a per-tab basis.

        I’ve found it great for work, for the many things that require me to be logged into both the me@example.com and me@example.onmicrosoft.com accounts simultanously, to manage MS 365 things. But restricting social media to an isolated profile, multiple Google/Microsoft/whatever accounts, these are all possible.

    • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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      That’s literally the only time I’ve ever used it. Knowing what it is, I don’t even need it. I have the settings set to erase all my history and most other stuff upon closing the browser. Which is exactly what incognito mode does, but temporarily for a single tab session.

    • Rob Bos@lemmy.ca
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      25 days ago

      It’s great for testing a site when you’re not sure whether the issue is because you’re logged in or there’s some cached data.

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    25 days ago

    Things do the opposite of what their name says they do. We’ve been in 1984/F451 bizarro world for a while, now.

    • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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      25 days ago

      That’s simply not true. People can’t be expected to know what’s going on under the hood of services designed specifically to simplify things for non-technical users and conceal what’s under the hood.

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        25 days ago

        Then don’t allow them to use those services without a license. It’s cars or chemicals all over again.

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          25 days ago

          Are people required to know how their car works?

          Do people have to understand chemistry to buy gasoline or mercury thermometers?

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      25 days ago

      That’s called victim blaming.

      But yeah. I really hope people stop using Google products. Google is evil.

      • seralth@lemmy.world
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        25 days ago

        To be fair it is in this case the victims is more at fault then not for misusing, misunderstanding and not reading the terms of service or explicate use case.

        Like this would be like getting mad at your doctor for keeping notes over you and sharing them with other doctors. But not your random friends or strangers.

        Incognito mode has said it’s always been local privacy only not that it doesn’t track or record you, nor prevents others from doing so.

        It’s just turning off history basically.

    • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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      25 days ago

      No, not really. There are low bars; this isn’t one of them. This is not something I expect average people who aren’t into technology to anticipate. Nerds like me, yeah. But not the public. Though we’re getting to that point.

  • sylver_dragon@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    If you care about your privacy, don’t use products from a company whose entire business model is built on invading your privacy.

  • PieMePlenty@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    Naming it incognito was a mistake. It was always clear to me all incognito is, is a non persistent container to keep your browsing data separate from your regular browsing data. All its hiding is your porn browsing habits from your mom. But of course, the name implies much more.