Children of the victims had to take Gilbert, their beloved golden retriever, to be put down, the chair of the DNC claimed.
Arm yourselves nerds these psychos want you dead.
I sincerely hope the hell he rots in is an eternal version of whatever his cowardice created that influenced him to do this. He deserves to live in eternal fear.
Republicans sure love shooting dogs. I thought Trump would just pardon the guy. Now I think he’ll nominated him to a cabinet position too.
They actually love dogs a lot. They adore simple minds that give unconventional love. They’re not mindless monsters with different axioms, they’re just dumb as fuck. And we could absolutely use this to change narratives in this country if we understood it better.
Cops in the US murder around 10,000 dogs a year one study estimates, but the figure might be much higher, because it’s not surprisingly hard to get data on something that police turn off their body cameras for or deny releasing to any outside agency.
Basically, if you own a dog, and you let a cop into your house, if they bark at the cop the cop will likely shoot the dog in front of you and carry on like nothing happened and you have no right to do anything, as the threat stands pretty strong in the air over the sounds of your dog’s last breaths. If more people released videos of this happening, I think we could push police overhaul with far, far more success than we had with BLM.
And if you’re reading between the lines and saying “wow he’s saying that the right cares more about the lives of dogs than black kids” yeah that is what I’m saying. No, we can’t change it. But I think if we worked with those primitive feelings at front and center, we could make a lot more progress in turning them little by little.
Just wanted to say, in the face of downvotes and angry replied, that I think you are absolutely right.
I appreciate that. People aren’t here in these sites for truth or being challenged, they’re here to pound war-drums together and drive up dopamine fervor towards a fantasy war with fantasy enemies. Not humans.
I’m always saddened by how easily our species devolves from having moral high-ground on an issue to feeling like the superior humans for making their ideological opponent into a vile monster, both overpowering and oppressive but also too pathetic to consider as a human. We’ve seen what this leads to over and over.
A question I ask folks sometimes is “if you won tomorrow, if you got overwhelming success for your party, your team, your group, what would the next day look like?” and invariably with few exceptions, they get angry and offended. Making someone consider their ideological opponent’s existence makes them feel like you’re taking the opposing side. This is why and how we get some of humanity’s worst acts.
We are, despite centuries upon centuries of evolution, civilization, philisophy and education, deeply tribal creatures. While right wing propaganda most blatantly and directly calls upon our tribalism to dehumanize the “other” of the day, it is a trait we all share. Frankly when you look at how far some people take the denial of easily verifiable reality to stick to a feeble story and prop up the most deplorable of men, it’s easy to feel they are terminally lost and can no longer be part of any kind of moral and positive society. But that way we just end up dehumanizing them as much as they do to us.
Even as they have been brainwashed and molded to be perpetually scared and angry and to reject other feelings, they are people nontheless who need to be treated fairly.
To some extent I understand that murderer, misguided as he is. It would, for me be a better world if I could remove people I see as harmful to the world from existence. If someone were to remove a bunch of republican supporting billionaires, the whole of that parties leadership and the heritage foundation from the world I would not be angry at all. Not because I hate them. I don’t really, I don’t know them personally. But because they are so harmful to all of us.
We may say things like “eat the rich” but we don’t really do that, at most we affectionately nibble a bit, without breaking skin. I’m too well aware that to people who live in actual abject povery, my middle class ass could be part of the group of rich folk on the menu. Once we start killing the people we see as harmful, where do we stop. Where do we draw the line? Who makes the grade? We could easily end up in a situation where, like in post revolutionary China or France anyone could be accused and convicted for not being revolutionary enough. Accused by an angry neighbor, a jealous lover or your own kids.
So while I understand the feelings that lead to the actions, I cannot condone murder, nor do I take such action myself, besides, I have a job to do, kids to care for, bills to pay etc, etc, etc.
And no, I have no solution for any of this, it’s way too complex to solve with rigid ideology or easy to shout slogans.
I’m afraid I must disagree. The right, in general, don’t care for dogs any more than they care for any other livestock. There are exceptions, of course, but in general they care about them as tools. Guard dogs, hunting dogs, great, but if that hunting dog misbehaves, they have no problem taking it straight to the gravel pit like Kristi Noem did. You even point out in your post that cops in the US shoot dogs at a mind boggling rate. Well, those cops are predominantly aligned with the right, are they not?
They may not have deep, intellectual compassion, but they have human feelings, and I can EASILY dig up thousands of facebook groups of right-wing dog lovers and their products, of people who have unparalleled love for guns, trump and dogs.
See, where you’re having a disconnect is the normal, human response to seeing behavior that runs against their own feelings. You’re encountering cognitive dissonance, and sorry to say once you start seeing it, you can’t stop seeing it and learn it’s fundamental to the human condition. Nobody is immune but some fall into it far more easily.
The cops that shoot dogs? Probably have their own dogs that they cherish. The people who scream and cry about how we need to deport immigrants? They would fight tooth-and-nail to keep their groundskeeper from being deported because “he’s a good guy and has a family.” The ones who want to see women die from miscarriages? They’ll drive their daughter over state-lines and pay for HER abortion. You see this everywhere. They voted on grocery prices… ask them how they feel about the price of eggs and poultry right now and you’ll get a dumb stare and a shifting goalpost, because those feelings were then, these new feelings are now.
And they do this all without a shred of self-awareness. I think we will fight the right a lot better when we understand that they’re not people who think the same way as we do. They aren’t aware of “punching down” or power structures, all they’re aware of is “punching” and cannot, will not EVER be able to separate themselves from their limited scope of “this is how I feel right now.” And this is also why this kind of mentality has been so successfully roped in by con-men who appeal to people’s selfish feelings.
will not EVER be able to separate themselves from their limited scope…
If they can’t be changed, then what?
We attack what they’re feeling. We shift their feelings. We appeal to their ever-shifting emotions and their selfish wants in the “now” and we make them hurt inside in a way that can’t be shifted into anger at a target. Honestly the issue of showing how police kill pets is a HUGE one I think we’re all leaving behind because I think for a lot of leftists, we’re afraid that if we make it an issue we will get attacked by other leftists for ignoring all the other huge issues and the human lives that are also being harmed.
And that’s the rub, we try so hard to craft arguments and make cases that encompass everyone and everything that we lose sight of how to deeply inject our feelings into the heart of that old white lady who commands the respect of her grown chud kids. People who do NOT care about how well crafted our socialist arguments are or how much data backs up our ideals. We gotta stupid-down and find a new grass-roots compass for change, because we’re not winning.
Republicans only care about themselves. So they care about THEIR dog, THEIR family, etc. anything or anyone else is “others” that can burn for all they care. You see it when some of them suddenly support homosexuality when their kid is gay and “oh, so it’s actually NOT a choice!” But they’re also more likely to disown their kid or shoot their dog if it doesn’t meet their expectation or fit in their world view.
I think that’s what the other person is saying too.
They actually love dogs a lot.
Despite all evidence to the contrary, you have quite the conviction. Quite the dedication to defending a terrorist
Boelton shot their family dog after murdering both parents. Kristi Noem murdered her family dog because she didn’t want to train it and was promoted to a high level cabinet position
Police, by your own admission, kill many family dogs. Police also heavily skew conservative
In spite of all that you think this administration and its followers love dogs?
So several things:
Quite the dedication to defending a terrorist
This is a juvenile and destructive bit of hyperbolic performatism and points to a clear lack of actual seriousness about the issue. If you don’t care about outcomes you’re on the wrong side.
Police, by your own admission, kill many family dogs. Police also heavily skew conservative
I will reference what I said elsewhere but you obviously didn’t read, which is that conservatism as a mindset is not coherent, it’s about how they feel now. They are gaining ground because we’re addressing intellectual ideas with them and they only care about what’s on their mind right now, this is what I’m saying we can exploit. But it involves something that will make reactionary turds on the left pretty uncomfortable, which is acknowledging that the vast majority of conservatives are normal people. Misguided but with the same emotions and wants for themselves.
The cops that shoot dogs? Probably have their own dogs that they cherish. The people who scream and cry about how we need to deport immigrants? They would fight tooth-and-nail to keep their groundskeeper from being deported because “he’s a good guy and has a family.” The ones who want to see women die from miscarriages? They’ll drive their daughter over state-lines and pay for HER abortion. You see this everywhere. They voted on grocery prices… ask them how they feel about the price of eggs and poultry right now and you’ll get a dumb stare and a shifting goalpost, because those feelings were then, these new feelings are now.
So my point is that we need to do better to appeal to the emotions they are using and figure out how to make it less about “including everyone” and more about “this is the pain you may feel next.”
If this is too “kind to terrorists” for you, you obviously haven’t been paying attention to how easily the underclass looking for equality can become the bad guys. Whatever happens in our country, we have to share it with them after, so I don’t entertain these kinds of tones that the right is inhuman monsters. Maybe the people bankrolling the media personalities, but the people are just people and you’re equally capable of losing cognitive thought and following your momentary feelings.
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It’s fucked up, but there will be people more upset that he shot a dog than that he shot four people, killing two of them.
Animals don’t understand our language, they don’t understand our actions and they don’t know the consequences… So the US citizens have had so damn much time to defend democracy… but they only started when fascism was enforced and it was really already foreseeable where it would end… With flowers against batons, tear gas, weapons in general. As soon as the Republicans start the large-scale purge it will.
With flowers against assault rifles, tanks, etc. So my sympathy is very limited.You brought no proof that people care more for the dog. It’s just a nonsense post looking to talk shit about people.
There are people in this thread who are confirming that people care more for the dog. If you think those people don’t exist, I’m not going to have to provide proof. You’ll see it in the coming days and weeks.
One person said that. What a miserable cynic
It’s not about talking shit. It’s about feeling morally superior to some imagined adversary.
It just depends on what perspective you choose. Obviously human life is more significant than dog lives, but a lot of people see dogs similar to children. A life of love and innocence that does not deserve to know violence. It’s not so much comparing the value of lives but the value of innocence.
Except that’s my point. The people he assassinated were also innocent. The people he tried to assassinate were innocent. This wasn’t like a mob hit or an act of war. This was a terrorist attack.
What I mean is that people will usually see dogs as more innocent than even the most innocent human adult. Literally how most people feel about children. That type of innocence deserves to be protected, and failure to do so hurts more than the death of a stranger. It’s not rational, but it’s just how a lot of people feel. If those same people were to think about it rationally, they would say the loss of human lives is definitely worse.
Personally, I’m not sure what the point of this statement is. It’s not about whether or not it’s right or wrong. Let’s just for the sake of argument, assume that it’s objectively correct. So what? How is saying this, or identifying generically that some people inevitably have their priorities mixed up, a meaningful contribution to the topic?
At best it comes across as cynical. And then you’re thinking “it’s not cynical if it’s true”… But we’re all thinking that it’s cynical because it lacks pointed meaning.
It’s like a teenager got on the Internet, read something, missed the point entirely and instead says “but what about this indirect incorrectness thing that is otherwise unrelated” for no reason other than to be edgy or sound smart.
So what?
So it’s fucked up. Four people were shot by a terrorist, two of them have died, and there are a significant number of people who didn’t care until they learned a dog was also killed. That’s fucked up, not because people care about a dog, but that they didn’t care about the people.
Frankly I didn’t expect saying so to be met with such hostility. That bothers me almost as much as the lack of respect for human life.
So it’s fucked up.
Ok and? It’s clear you don’t even know what your own point is. That’s why you get down voted.
That bothers me almost as much as the lack of respect for human life.
Sounds like work for your therapist.
When you’re done savoring the smell of your own farts, think about what you said. You went from claiming many people care more about the dog than they do the human murder victims, then you jumped to saying people didn’t care about the humans at all. These are very different things.
Different people have different values, and these values are shaped by a variety of circumstances. I may not agree with these values or the reasoning behind them, but there are plenty of factors I can think of why some people who aren’t sociopaths may have a reaction like this to stories like these.
In the end, it matters to me more that people care in this situation than why they care. Holier than thou purity testing only divides us further, so trying to understand where people are coming from before you generalize and write them off is a much better strategy if we want more allies to help in this mess. We’re going to need all we can get.
100% anecdotally true, based on sharing this story with fam…
Republican fam?
Edit: are you downvoting me because you think I’m wrong or because you think I’m right?
Yes.
I appreciate the clarification.
You’re getting downvoted because you’re being a huge downer without evidence
Sorry, I didn’t mean to bring negative vibes to this party.
Guess he was really leaning into the whole “impersonating a police officer” thing.
Of course he did, he’s a Republican psychopath. They don’t understand why people have pets.
What a stupid, reactionary comment. Literally Hitler loved dogs. Compassion for animals doesn’t mean you aren’t a massive peace of shit that deserves death.
Pretty sure this has more to do with the fact that the current GOP has one Kristi Noem that killed her dog because it annoyed her. Try to keep up.
Hitler loved his dogs. Not so much for everyone else’s.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_welfare_in_Nazi_Germany
Hitler was a sociopath. He understood that other people liked dogs, and used it as a smoke screen to make himself seem more neurotypical. Nobody likes a freak at the eugenics party.
What a dumb comment. You dont read books, do you?
Don’t forget, Hitler loved children, too. He’s such a misunderstood guy, just because he supported genocide. He was a lot more complicated than that. /S
Hitler also loved Germans! Surely a guy who loves ~70 million people can’t be all bad, right?
Here’s a guy who killed two prominent people, shot two more, and a rescue dog.
I hope they at least give him the Luigi treatment.
I hope they at least give him the Luigi treatment.
Luigi, or whoever actually did it, had the decency not to harm anyone’s family or pets. This motherfucker deserves far worse.
He should have to clean every bathroom in the New York City subway system.
With a cotton swab.
Trump will pardon him 100% if he gets a federal charge.
Luigi actually saved lives though. The assassination of Brian Thompson was a stated symbolic protest against insurance practices that deny life‑saving care intended to spotlight and stop those denials. His act sparked intense public outrage media attention regulatory scrutiny and investor backlash which pressured UnitedHealth to soften its claim‑denial practices and approve more life‑saving care. That shift led to higher costs. Lower profits triggered the largest one‑day stock drop in 25 years and prompted a class‑action lawsuit by investors.
Luigi set out to right actual wrong and literally saved lives in the process
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/unitedhealth-investors-lawsuit-brian-thompson-luigi-mangione/
It’s simpler than that. Someone (not Luigi) stopped a Corporate Serial Killer that was responsible for the deaths and suffering of millions of people in the past, and millions in the future. Whoever killed him acted in defense of others, and is not guilty of murder. He should get a medal.
I fully expect the GOP to give make him a talk show host on Fox.
I agree. But on the other hand, it seems like they’ve gone above and beyond “normal” in their approach to Luigi. I wanna see this MAGAt perp-walked in full shackles like they did Luigi.
Accompanied by the full Praetorian Guard.
There’s only one way that happens
Luigi is a paradox. He didn’t do the crime, but he is a hero for it anyway.
He didn’t do the crime, but he is
a herogoing to be martyred for it anyway.FTFY. His heroism isn’t due to the fact that he did it; It’s due to the fact that he’s obviously being railroaded, and has decided to fight like hell instead of simply accepting it.
I read this story hours ago and it’s stuck with me all day. It’s one thing to be mad at those you feel wronged you; harming an innocent (human or animal) is so despicable it’s inexcusable. I bet that Golden was among the purest best boys on Earth (they all are).
It’s a good thing I’m not in charge of this pos’ confinement, otherwise he might accidentally find me busy tying my shoe while he’s breaking his neck and dying a slow, excrutiiatingly painful death.
Send him to Mississippi and execute him with CO2. He deserves that terror for shooting a golden.
Only a madman shoots a dog. I don’t think that this guy has even been charged yet?
Barbie dog killer at it again.
What an asshole.
Just trying yo sell the cop disguise.
Normally I don’t advocate the death penalty.
So much meat went to waste, this is horrible
that is some poor attempt at trolling if I ever saw one
In my village in burkina faso we would never waste a good meat like this. This would be an absolute disgrace
In my village in burkina faso we’d never waste a meat like this
Aight kid, you may call it some epic trolling, but I call you a fucking racist garbage
Just wanted to be sure and say a hearty FUCK YOU DIE IN A FIRE before blocking you. Shit-ass-troll.
That dog was a better person than you.
