While I believe this may very well be the case (there sure are big red signs pointing to it, beginning with Musk) - it won’t do much unless there’s hard undeniable proof. And I mean, the kind of unignorable nuclear bombshell where they start scrambling and telling on each other to save their sorry behinds as a last ditch effort to salvage anything they can.
And even then hardcore MAGA will still call it fake and in their desperation go even crazier before anyone has a chance to take them out of power.
Besides, “every accusation is a confession”, as if by accusing their opposition of doing something it gave them the justification of “they did it so we are free to as well”. You know damn well Trump wasn’t going to leave it to fate a second time, especially after failling his insurrection to stay in power the first time.
Sure, these fascists have spent 5 years delegitimizing accusations of electoral fraud and are openly committed to ending democracy.
But so far the only actual evidence of ‘election stealing’ is openly buying votes in direct violation of the law, illegal campaigns tactics sometimes resulting in charges, illegal coordination with PACs, systemic campaign finance violations, direct coordination with at least Israeli and Russian leaders to influence the election, decades of foreign disinformation operations pushing for exactly this outcome and a huge influx of dark money from anonymous plutocrats.
Just not direct voting machine manipulation.
I guess she can now sue the government for lost wages or something? Because no matter what evidence they will find she will not be president.
Also, paraphrasing the best president ever, “if you can’t figure out how to tamper with some voting machines, you have no business being president.”
They lost me at this quote:
“He [Musk] knows those computers better than anybody.
Why? It’s a Taco quote indicating Musk tempered with the machines.
sure but literally everything else we’ve learned about Musk in the last few years is he’s a very long way from the genius hackerman his PR team managed to paint him as during his ascent. His companies didn’t even have access to voting machines.
I’m not saying it wasn’t rigged, but pointing at Elon is far more likely to be a misdirect or bit of trolling on Trump’s part.
It’s more likely that Elon knew a guy, like the puppet player who plays online games for him while he’s live on TV. Elon doesn’t know shit, but he does know shady people like his dealer.
Yeah really. Dude doesn’t know anything. Moron couldn’t swap RAM if his life depended on it.
He would pay someone to do it for him, then claim he did it by itself, fumble doing it again on camera, an complain people are harassing poor baby musky and storm off.
OP, come the fuck on. Have some integrity and don’t post articles from The Economic Times.
Man, I’m tired of reliving the Dubya years.
You wish now was that nice. With dubby at least there was a “next person”
The headline says she won but the article says:
The bombshell allegation raises a serious question: Did Kamala Harris actually win the 2024 election?
Could Kamala Harris have actually won the election?
Compared with the body of the article, the headline is overstated. There are allegations of suspicious results and a court case going ahead to investigate, but that case is not yet decided.
“Kamala Harris may have won.”
I think MSN, has been reduced to AI regenerated scrapes of other news sites the body of the article all of the generic news sites like Yahoo msn and others have the same article format and core text but the msn is “tuned” to be more Inflammatory.
Some attribute access newswire, including apnews so the additional portion you pointed out smells of hallucination to me.
They probably asked the prompt for a clickbait title and left it on auto pilot without reviewing.
this is silly guys, come on. i dont like trump either but the whole stolen election shit is cringe. especially when its about 4 missing votes.
The article says this wouldn’t undo the election. I’m not sure it shouldn’t. We can’t afford to have a foreign actor in the big seat for four years. We just can’t.
We already have. This is the fifth year.
Alright, I added “more” to it. Happy now? It’s not like I was unaware of his first term.
Am I happy? No I’m fucking pissed, just not at you.
That’s fair. Right there with you in fact. Fuck this regime.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. This is concerning, but not a bombshell itself.
There is extraordinary evidence. The county in question received 0 votes for Kamala, not some. 0. And yet plenty of people voted democratic. That is a fucking HUGE statistical anomaly.
The lawsuit being brought on this for Rockland County New York. In that county the Harris/Walz ticket got over 63,000 votes in the presidential election last year, I’m not sure where this article is looking to make the 0 vote claim.
I know the quote, and dislike it.
“Claims require evidence” is a better way of saying it, no need to decide if the evidence is extraordinary enough to be accepted.
And yes, I know Carl Sagan was hugely intelligent and important in the science field, I’ll still disagree with this quote
Skimmed the article. There’s some stuff that stinks and is definitely worth investigating, but I wouldn’t call it a bombshell; there’s no hard evidence outlined in the article that the voting machines were altered to tamper with results. Tbh, I remain surprised that the Harris campaign backed down so quick and easy instead of running the usual week or two of spaghetti plate legal challenges to the results. They really just took them at face value, threw their hands in the air, and said “okay, guess we’re done here.”
They couldnt, because they already went all in saying voting machines being secure when trump claimed he lost because of it.
They really just took them at face value, threw their hands in the air, and said “okay, guess we’re done here.”
At the end of the day, now they can get a lot of racist and classist policies passed by the Trump admin with the support of some “centrist” Democrats. They get to serve the oligarchy and Trump gets the blame. When the Democrats are at it again, they will roll back a small fraction of these policies and keep the majority of them. Rinse and repeat.
Oh yes, of course, the Dems secretly want GOP to win.
It sure fucking seems like it.
Or they just don’t care as much, as it doesn’t matter to their long term political goals.
Before the election they were up in arms rhetorically how Trump will be the end to Democracy. And then they went after “moderate” Republicans like Cheney, who is a mass murderer war criminal. Now the Democrats continue helping to pass Trump bills. Blue states crack down on anti war and anti ICE protests…
It was pretty much a landslide victory after all, not much space to second guess these results
I don’t think you know what “landslide” means.
I call 312-226 a landslide, no matter if we condone electoral college or not
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No they didn’t. The people who didn’t vote made their choice. They chose to let Trump win because they can’t be bothered to participate in elections. Apathy is a country killer.
A “landslide” (which it wasnt even lmao) propped up by 10-100x the normal percentage of bullet ballots? For the first time ever in the history of our electoral system.
Bullet ballots normally are 0.1-1% of all ballots cast in any given district. In many key districts in swing states they made up 10% of the ballots cast. 10%! That is a statistically impossible increase without some kind of explanation. Like if there had been an entire movement pushing for people to only vote trump and not for the party at large.
But hold on, there was supposed to be a “mandate” given to the republican party. Then why would so many trump voters only vote for trump and nobody else? Because it was bullshit.
It would be relatively simple to manipulate the machines to scan a ballot, then wipe all of the selections, and fill in only one selection for the presidential ballot. The presidential ballot is the only election that is ubiquitous across all districts. They couldnt make something complicated enough to properly fill in every ballot, so they went with the hack and slash version. The end result is 10-100x the normal number of bullet ballots that we would normally see anywhere.
Logical proof? Who the fuck bothers to wait in line to vote and then only votes for President and nothing else? The role that arguably has the least direct impact on anyones daily life, in comparison to local and state government
Or how about the fact that every runoff race so far in places that went to Trump, based heavily on bullet ballots, has consistently resulted in a democratic candidate being elected? Does that not seem odd? Supposedly trump loving country like Iowa voting for democrats? Looks a lot like those expert polls showing Iowa would go blue were 100% on the money. Foul play has never been so mathematically obvious
I’m not an American and I have pretty much zero understading of how your electoral system works, but I what I do understand is that you have electoral college in which electoral bodies voted 312 to 226 which I’d definitely call a landslide, despite much smaller difference is popular votes, where Trump still won anyways.
So yeah, sorry, it IS only fair to call it a landslide, no matter how bitter of a pill it is to swallow.
As if it would matter at this point. What are we gonna do, undo the entire 2024 election? LMAO.
It doesn’t do anything on its own but because it undermines Trump’s legitimacy, it sets up for other actions (e.g. protests, whatever Newsom does) to have more legitimacy
get more people to protest maybe? I don’t know I’m canadian
Need French revolution, but can’t import ideas
The US exported the Revolution to France.
Find Nick Cage and we can get the idea out of Ben Franklin’s family vault where he kept all his porno mags.
The US exported the Revolution to France.
I think you’re thinking of the Magna Carta.
You can import ideas you just have to pay a 25% no 50% no 100% !!! Tarrifs on them, but it’s actually 10% - Taco
Well, there’s a lawsuit to keep track of. If it turns out to be true, you think Congress would even care?
She might have gotten more popular votes, but she didn’t get the electoral college votes nor is she sitting in the White House. So, whatever. We’re still fucked.
This sort of lawsuit isn’t about undoing the last election, it’s about ensuring the next one is fair.
There won’t be next elections while there are fascists in power.
Okay doomer.
I am sure, sure Tramp would facilitate the transfer of power right after he is done with his ramblings about his 3rd presidential run! At which we are already, considering he won instead of Biden and had been secretly running the us in the last decade or so
God bless PFOA pans or something
Really though, can anything change at this point? Q
Is the Economic Times even a reliable news source? Everything I can find on it makes it sound dubious…
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There’s a lawsuit proceeding to discovery in New York, which is mentioned in the original article. So in this at least, it’s got corroboration from other outlets and in the suit itself.
Anyone can file a lawsuit for anything. This is all meaningless misinformation that is distracting people from what’s going on.
Incorrect, this is a lawsuit that shows evidence of election tampering unlike anything the courts will have ever seen before. Discovery is going to turn up a lot of records, or a lot of deleted records. This, along with the blatant lawlessness of the president’s actions right now, might be the spark to get the states to actually do something about the federal government being compromised. It’s extremely important information.
Of course she did. This election was fixed by the Republiscum.
Every singular accusation from them is an admission
