Other than them both being dickheads

  • Buske@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    There is no fall out. They both are still getting exactly what they want. It is a ploy.

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      33 minutes ago

      What?! Only fools believe what the professional journalists say! Dintcha hear? It’s all fake news! The only real news is the stuff you see online, in random and especially backwater Internet forums, because why would some random, anonymous person lie or have things wrongly worked out? Trust in the obscure and unverifiable!

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      7 hours ago

      The fact that he was able to get this in the first people is lol

      This is such a shit way to do industrial policy. Just hands out no conditions. China gonna teach US a lesson, gonna hurt. A generation of malinvestments across key industries. Clown capitalism.

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    20 hours ago

    Fun fact: This isn’t the first time they’ve worked together and broke up. IIRC, Trump choose Musk for some advisory role during his first term (I don’t remember what, specifically). Musk resigned because Trump withdrew from the Paris Climate Accord.

  • Dr. Moose@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    Because autocracy cannot sustain conflict of ideas. It was just a matter of time as every political scientist said 6 months ago.

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    22 hours ago

    I assume - Musk tried to pressure Trump to get more kickbacks, but t has loyalty elsewhere. Not to mention musk has aggravated everyone in the WH and someone from t’s inner circle told him to just cut him out because musk served his purpose and t agreed. And of course, musk isn’t president he is!

  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    23 hours ago

    Eel-on-musk saw a ray of daylight from the bottom of his k-hole and had a crisis of conscience…? Idk man everyone’s on drugs. And I do mean that literally, for this regime.

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    23 hours ago

    I think Musk is stupider than people realize. He’s a true believer in his grandpa’s technocracy movement (plus eugenics), and so he thought “if I was in control for just a few weeks everyone would realize they should just let me run the world”

    Then, he got practically unlimited power, and everyone got mad at him. He seemed genuinely surprised that people weren’t praising him for his sacrifices (such as selflessly condemning hundreds of thousands of people to death)

    Then he showed he was useless at buying elections, and the right dropped him

    He followed Trump around for a while quietly, probably spending most of it in a k-hole. Then Trump officially broke up with him, even if he glazed Elon on the way out

    Then the narcissism kicked back in. Maybe his “friends” rubbed it in, maybe his dad called him a disappointment who fumbled the chance of a lifetime, maybe the threat of legal ramifications made him bitch out - but whatever happened, Elon woke up one day and decided “it wasn’t my fault, Trump and Co fucked me”

    I think Elon is actually concerned about the bill to some degree, because it does stretch our debt and spending to levels that could potentially pop the global economy. I think he does feel disrespected that his work at Doge is being rolled back and everyone is distancing themselves from him. I think he is upset that he spent all this money to buy the presidency, and got a bad ROI

    But ultimately, Elon is a fucking idiot with a huge ego. He didn’t understand what game he was playing, and so when he lost he started blaming others

    And it’s beautiful. Possibly the greatest crash out in history

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      21 hours ago

      He thought he was playing the game against Trump who is in fact a moron. But then he found out there are smart powerful evil people actually pulling the strings who have more power than he could imagine. He got fucking set up and rolled over by people as cunning as he perceived himself to be. Self reflection is not something his brain is capable of so he’s just lashing out lol. He’s a bozo and his companies are going to 0.

      • wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        8 hours ago

        Yeah I really hope he goes after Vought and the truly evil people next. It’d be glorious to watch them all fight and get ripped apart so they can’t harm anyone else.

      • theneverfox@pawb.social
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        20 hours ago

        Pretty much. Trump is charismatic… But his brain is leaking out his nose and he wasn’t very smart to begin with. Elon is effectively dumber, because trump knows he’s in this to get his bread buttered - Elon might have more ram, but he doesn’t understand the difference between con and reality

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      22 hours ago

      Regarding “Elon is stupid” I don’t agree. He has shown exceptionally good technical skills, he has no people skills, he’s worse than useless at presenting himself to the public in general

      I don’t think he engineered much at either Tesla or SpaceX, but he had an excellent understanding of what they were doing - he could answer all the (non-ITAR, non trade secret) questions Tim Dodd asked in his tour of Starbase. When model 3 was new Randall Monroe did and assessment of the vehicle, Musk took the criticism and the next version fixed all the identified problems.

      I would say Trump is the opposite. Actually low IQ, poorly educated, but good at talking to the population at large

      • Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        20 hours ago

        Intelligence is multidimensional. Musk is obviously great at business, the kind where you stretch the limits of what is allowed to grow your empire, and (I agree) he knows what he’s building and capable of recognizing where he should lead the product next.

        His political acumen is gotta be dogshit, with an unlimited money all he managed to do is to destroy the “realworld ironman” image he spent a decade crafting. He has no rizz, especially compared to Trump who is loved by half of the world (and hated by the other).

        Also, critically for him IMO, he has no self-reflection. With all that power gassing your ego up, it is crucial to be able to step back and see that you’re just a dumb ape as the rest of us. Recognize things you’re bad at and find good people to field for you, instead of sycophants whispering “it’s the kids who are wrong”

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          No he just got lucky a few times. Then he flagrantly broke the law because he realized the SEC would never hold him accountable and that let him turn Tesla into the first memestock. That’s why he is megawealthy. Luck and fraud.

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            3 hours ago

            I agree, I’m saying you need to have a certain acumen to recognize the opportunity for a grift and then keep the plates spinning for a decade.

      • theneverfox@pawb.social
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        21 hours ago

        No, he’s shown zero technical skills across his lifetime. He literally has no skill as a programmer or as an engineer

        Have you ever seen a kid with a model car that can rattle off the horsepower and acceleration speed? That’s what Elon is. He doesn’t understand these things - he buys companies and learns the spec sheet because he’s a fanboy with too much money.

        Elon couldn’t code his way out of a paper bag. He couldn’t put together a model rocket with instructions on the box. What he can do is memorize a bunch of statistics he doesn’t understand on a fundamental level

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    24 hours ago

    They’re both raging self obsessed narcs who can’t stand anyone else getting attention. It was just a matter of time.

    Tl;dr: housecats

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      23 hours ago

      Also I think Tesla stock went up a bit since this whole thing started. Muskrat might just be trying to distance himself from Trump to save Tesla’s sales numbers.

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      23 hours ago

      You’re traumatized and overthinking it. They are not that smart. A good thing is happening. Enjoy it.

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      24 hours ago

      I feel like you don’t call the President of the United States a kid fucker to millions of people unless you’re serious. It’s possible but it seems pretty unlikely

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        23 hours ago

        That’s what I thought originally but then I got high and thought about it more and it seemed pretty likely they could go that far. And things getting stranger than they already are seems likely to me.

        EDIT: Also, Musk called that scuba diver guy a kid fucker. Nothing came of that except ridicule

  • auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 day ago

    Musk was taking all the attention and jumping about like a dick.

    First rift was musk was going to get classified briefings on China and Trump put a stop to it.

    Also Musk had a fall out with Bessent and Trump sided with Besset.

    Also rumoured he fucked Steven Millers wife (who is a lefty and would blacken a right eye with a hook).

    Nothing to do with the bill at all IMO. He does not give a single fuck about that in any form. Just a pain point he knows he can drive a wedge through a big part of Trumps base.