• FQQD@lemmy.ohaa.xyz
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    27 days ago

    This seems… unnecessarily gendered. I think these are things you can wish for everyone.

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      27 days ago

      The point here is the same as with „Black lives matter“. Of course all lifes matter, but blacks are underrepresented, as are men in mental health topics.

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        27 days ago

        Fair enough. I never felt it that way even as a man, but it might be cultural difference. This just felt to me like a “Bic For Her”-moment. But of course I do think mental health is important for men as well.

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      27 days ago

      Point of this is to rise awareness that June used to be men’s mental health awareness month, to be able to live in harmony with men, but all changed when the LGBTQ community attacked.

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      27 days ago

      I agree.

      The internet could benefit by being more inclusive ; especially around (mental) health.

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      26 days ago

      In principle, I do agree; but sometimes we have to explicitly highlight that men (or any other group) are included, because it’s often implied that some group is not.

      It could be helpful to look into stereotypes people of both genders face that stop them, in this case, from seeking therapy. One can call out issues women AND men (and nonbinary folks) face on the topic, thereby both being very explicit that everyone’s involved, but maintaining a balanced message.

      Something like “Men, you deserve support. You don’t have to be tough”, and then “Women, you don’t have to be a neverending source of care. You might need help too” etc.

    • gerryflap@feddit.nl
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      27 days ago

      Why have black history month or black lives matter, don’t all lives matter? Why have feminism, don’t all genders matter? Why aren’t cishets included in pride, can’t they be proud?!

      These things exist to call out specific issues that exist for specific groups. Other groups might experience the same problem, but that doesn’t matter. This is for men and their specific issues. As a man we’re always told to just suck it up and keep going. To be strong. It was way tools late that I realized that I was allowed to seek help and feel emotions.

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      26 days ago

      I think the main thing that is unnecessarily gendered is they are trying to push the “blue is the only manly color” thing in this image.

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      26 days ago

      Let’s walk back and compare to a social cause that I think most people agree on.

      Police violence is a problem. It’s a problem for all races, but black people have been disproportionately targeted for a long time, and are in all forms at greater risk. So, it’s fair to organize social movements around supporting that demographic to show they’re recognized and they matter; Black Lives Matter.

      Male social isolation is also a problem. It’s been a problem for everyone, and loneliness affects all genders under modern social technological trends; but men are overwhelmingly gathering to movements that target their demographic and give them a sense of identity association. (Women and trans communities also gather to their exclusive groups to help identify their unique problems). Even if you don’t agree men are really victims, they can be warped into becoming perpetrators, creating more victims, if their mental health needs are not addressed.

      And so, it’s fair to organize social movements around supporting that demographic to show they’re recognized and they matter; Men’s mental health matters. This of course does not need to detract from any other social causes happening.

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      27 days ago

      HM maybe the wrong community but it’s an important message anyway. Men’s mental health matters and if we all cared more about it, we’d have a lot less issues in the world.

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    27 days ago

    Remind people to seek help, when someone is “joking” about ending it all. There is help out there, and it’s worth an attempt, before doing something final and irreversible.

    In many countries simply telling your doctor what you are considering will get you help.

    If talking to a doctor might be a bad idea due to your profession or other reasons. Then talking with friends or family also might help.

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        There is an extreme right wing party (recently confirmed as extreme right wing by the Verfassungsschutz (Organisation which looks after the constitution and organizations that want to topple the constitution)) with about 20 percent of the votes in the last election. They use the color blue as their color. The fanatics (read fashits) of that party use a blue heart.

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      Don’t respect those low lifes and use the blue heart for this. Or combine them.

      “Men’s health, especially mental health is important. Also AFD should be banned as it is in conflict with the German constitution and a bunch of fascists”

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      27 days ago

      It could be an innocent mistake, or if we put our tinfoil hats on for a second, deliberate counter-propaganda aimed at sowing division and dissent by baiting people with otherwise good intent.

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    26 days ago

    While I agree that Men’s mental health is important, I have to ask - why the fuck is this posted here? Like what even is this community anymore? I thought it was supposed to be for memes, but instead all I see is political bullshit, actual troll posts, AI slop, and this off-topic stuff…

    Why don’t the mods here care about the community?

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      And why is the blue heart an AfD symbol while there are “multiple” Germans running around upvoting each other, ignoring that fact, and calling feminists the real sexists while OP’s name is literally Pepe?

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    27 days ago

    Thank you for this. I have been struggling the last few days more than ever before. Someday I’ll get through it. But that day isn’t today.

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    27 days ago

    This YouTuber has created 4 astoundingly insightful videos about men. Patriarchal society fucks us up, either turning us into monsters or demanding a facade that runs so deep most of us forget it’s a facade. Even just articulating our feelings and mental health is a massive struggle.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pm5gX_wgic

    Worth a watch by men and anyone who cares about men. And if you don’t care about men… well, that’s pretty typical of society at large, so don’t feel too guilty, but maybe you should start caring.

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      27 days ago

      In the same vein, I’d like to remind people that feminism is also for men.

      As a start, I think bell hooks’ The Will to Change can be a good intro.

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          Maybe in some circles but I’ve always felt welcomed and supported by the women around me. I’m sorry that you can’t say the same.

          I want you to know that your feelings are valid but please don’t let the actions of a few reactionaries spoil the entire ideal that feminism stands on.

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            I’m speaking on a holistic & practical level. Oh & the reason you’re welcomed is because you’re a useful tool, the instant you criticize them, you’ll be a misogynist & will be rail-roaded

            I can give practical examples as well. Example 1

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              I hear your frustration, and I won’t deny that some feminist spaces have blind spots or even hostility toward men’s issues. But dismissing the entire movement because of those flaws is like rejecting democracy because some politicians are corrupt it throws out the good with the bad. Feminism, at its core, is about dismantling rigid gender roles, which harms men too (e.g., stigma around male vulnerability, custody biases, conscription).

              You’re right that some self-labeled feminists don’t live up to that ideal, but that doesn’t negate the millions who fight for parental leave, against male suicide stigma, or for LGBTQ+ rights. If you’ve been burned by hypocrites, I get it but I’d encourage you to judge ideas by their best advocates, not their worst.

              That said, I’m open to your examples. If we agree the goal is equality, maybe we can find common ground on where movements fall short.